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pksens
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom156 Posts
August 07 2010 08:52 GMT
#21
I use 3/11 for FPS gaming and windows anyway with a higher DPI mouse. Theres no problem with using 3/11 - 4/11 - to 6/11, the "1:1" might be true with the mouse counts but it's not losing performance at lower numbers either, just changes the DPI basically. Above 6/11 isn't good though.

Though 3/11 is a little slow for SC2, I kind of like 5/11 seems about my speed with a 1800dpi mouse..
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 09:37:16
August 07 2010 09:08 GMT
#22
pksens, your resolution matters a lot too. At 2000 DPI, 6/11 sensitivity just doesn't cut it for me at 2148x1536. Even 1600x1200 it feels a bit poor, but I think I'll try it out.

The thing about when I have pointer acceleration on (enhance pointer precision), I can move from one end of the screen to the other, without loosing significant, if ANY vertical position. This is partially because my DPI isn't enough to go more than 45-55% across the screen by flicking my wrist without acceleration, but I can do so easily with the acceleration. It also accelerates the horizontal movement so much (and/or processes mouse intended movement), it makes the line straighter, so much so that there is sometimes no vertical loss.

I think it's really quite debatable if someone used to and using acceleration is any worse accuracy than someone used to and using no acceleration. I will say however, that they can certainly be faster if both DPIs aren't sufficient.
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balistix
Profile Joined July 2010
Croatia63 Posts
August 07 2010 09:42 GMT
#23
Thank god i have a logitech g9x so i can set my dpi however i want it so i just leave the ingame sensitivity to 100%
hkfosho
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada213 Posts
August 07 2010 09:58 GMT
#24
i play on 8/11 (windows 7 pointer speed) with 85% mouse sensitivity on SC2 o_o
friendlybus
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia78 Posts
August 07 2010 10:06 GMT
#25
2/11 18% 2000dpi. what evs!
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green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
August 07 2010 10:10 GMT
#26
thouh shalt not change ingame sensitivity -> get a good mouse and change it directly there
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Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 10:13:52
August 07 2010 10:12 GMT
#27
On August 07 2010 14:37 stafu wrote:
TLDR: Don't change in-game sensitivity (unless Blizzard fix it) or your windows sensitivity. Buy a mouse with higher DPI or use a lower resolution.

'That is just ignorant advice, having your mouse skip pixels gets exactly the same effects for the mouse as playing with lower resolution, which means that the only real difference is that the game now looks like shit. I play with it going 2 pixels per mouse pixel and I never had any problems with precision since the game don't notice a difference between if you click a pixel or its neighbor.
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
August 07 2010 10:38 GMT
#28
Lower resolution on a CRT monitor is different to using non-native LCD res, and although it's still similar to using a higher res and changing Windows sensitivity, it's not the same. It's more about the feel I guess — I hate that feeling of skipping over pixels that are actually there.
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
August 07 2010 10:40 GMT
#29
On August 07 2010 19:06 friendlybus wrote:
2/11 18% 2000dpi. what evs!

This is fine — as someone mentioned a few posts up (I think), using a lower Windows sensitivity (below 6/11) is fine and doesn't have the same pixel-skipping problem/loss of precision.
ddk
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom38 Posts
August 07 2010 12:18 GMT
#30
yeah I've noticed this as well. I've spent a lot of time playing competitive q3/ql/cpm/qw and I always instantly get put to a hard decision when games don't use raw or at LEAST direct input. It's pretty horrible :[ - good post highlighting this issue, thanks.
ym
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Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1218 Posts
August 07 2010 12:27 GMT
#31
Hrm...i'm using windows 7 as well, and my pointer speed options seem to be divided into 5 sections, instead of 11
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stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 12:47:28
August 07 2010 12:46 GMT
#32
On August 07 2010 21:27 7 wrote:
Hrm...i'm using windows 7 as well, and my pointer speed options seem to be divided into 5 sections, instead of 11

Which drivers? This doesn't sound like the normal Windows mouse panel. Take a screenshot if you like :>

Edit: P.S. It's probably safe to just put it on the centre value regardless.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
August 07 2010 13:09 GMT
#33
On August 07 2010 19:10 green.at wrote:
thouh shalt not change ingame sensitivity -> get a good mouse and change it directly there

o_O

I've changed my mouse sensitivty both in Setpoint AND in game. Am I just overriding the first when I change the second or something?
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stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 13:16:47
August 07 2010 13:15 GMT
#34
On August 07 2010 22:09 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 19:10 green.at wrote:
thouh shalt not change ingame sensitivity -> get a good mouse and change it directly there

o_O

I've changed my mouse sensitivty both in Setpoint AND in game. Am I just overriding the first when I change the second or something?

Yep, though I can't totally confirm specifically for Setpoint, but if it works the same/is tied to Windows sensitivity (which at least the older Logitech Setpoint drivers were), then as soon as you load SC2 it would set that sensitivity to whatever the closest notch is to your SC2 sensitivity percentage.
baeracaed
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States604 Posts
August 07 2010 13:18 GMT
#35
On August 07 2010 22:09 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 19:10 green.at wrote:
thouh shalt not change ingame sensitivity -> get a good mouse and change it directly there

o_O

I've changed my mouse sensitivty both in Setpoint AND in game. Am I just overriding the first when I change the second or something?


There's a tickable option for "Use OS native drivers for pointer speed and acceleration" if that's ticked then setpoint settings will have no effect at all, your mouse cursor will go by windows settings. If it's unticked then it'll go by setpoint's settings. According to a logitech rep to get a "1:1" with setpoint is to have it at speed - 5 and acceleration - 0. Depending on what mouse you have and what resolution you use it may not move fast/slow enough for you.
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tacrats
Profile Joined July 2010
476 Posts
August 07 2010 13:35 GMT
#36
Ok so changing to 6/11 is way to slow for me. How can i make it faster without losing accuracy?

i dont have a fancy mouse just a microsoft intellimouse
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
August 07 2010 14:31 GMT
#37
On August 07 2010 22:09 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 19:10 green.at wrote:
thouh shalt not change ingame sensitivity -> get a good mouse and change it directly there

o_O

I've changed my mouse sensitivty both in Setpoint AND in game. Am I just overriding the first when I change the second or something?


In my experience, changing the speed in setpoint works exactly like the mouse speed in windows. If you go over half way, you start to skip pixels and if you go to max it's just horrible. You can test it in paint.

But that leaves me this question: at 2000dpi and halfway speed, my mouse is way too slow at 1920*1200, so is there a way to speed it up without losing accuracy?
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
August 07 2010 15:28 GMT
#38
On August 07 2010 17:37 Xapti wrote:
The reason the mouse skips pixels is because you don't have "enhance pointer precision" (I hear this is some form of mouse acceleration, maybe not good for some people, but I like it)

I usually have windows sensitivity high (or possibly maxed), checkmark "enhance pointer precision", and use the DPI I want on my mouse (which is the max of 2000, or sometimes 1600). Obviously you can choose non-max windows sensitivity, but even then you should select "enhance pointer precision" as far as I know.

On a different, but related note:
Anyone know what "reduce mouse lag" in SC2 does? Anyone noticed a difference? which do they prefer?

I do know on my old computer, when i played against 4 AIs and my machine slowed down to like 1-3FPS, my mouse clicks and stuff wouldn't register really. Perhaps that has something to do with that setting (it was disabled).


Sometimes your mouse and just go all funky on you. Or rather, your mouse slows down (laggy, not sensitivity wise). So by enabling this, you're for sure that your mouse will be accurate and smooth. but it does cost some performance. If everything is normal for you, don't need to enable it unless you do. I just enable it just incase.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 07 2010 15:40 GMT
#39
I've got a razer viper with no driver installed for it (set point is installed for my dead g3 though but i don't use it) I've always had my windows xp mouse set to 7/11 (6 feels too slow) and my resolution is 1280x1024 for windows and in game 1024x768 and like 70% mouse accell.
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Bair
Profile Joined May 2010
United States698 Posts
August 07 2010 15:46 GMT
#40
So then...anyone want to reccomend a decent mouse? Something besides the $.50 mouse they give out with crappy new computers?
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