On September 03 2010 19:50 escruting wrote: What's worst, max windows sens or max sc2 sens? i have max sc2 sens and 8/11 on windows at 1920x1080 res.
They are the same and both bad. If you have 100% in SC2, when you load SC2 it will set your Windows sens to 11/11. Best is to leave Windows at 6/11, SC2 at 50%, and use mouse DPI to higher your sensitivity (it's the only true way without losing 1:1 pixel precision). This is why 400 DPI mice will not cut it for SC2, but 800 should be enough.
I have the mouse at max DPI (2000dpi), its a sidewinder x3.
On September 03 2010 20:44 stafu wrote: 2000 DPI means you only have to move 1.3 cm to go from one side of your screen to the other. That should be far more than enough! :O
(In fact I'd probably recommend against such a huge sensitivity for the health and ongoing functioning of your wrists)
Yeah, but i dont know if its good in terms of pointer precision...I play okay but...
So I use a logitech mx518 with a dpi of 1600 and I have the windows settings at 11/11. At a multiplier of 3.5, I would need a mouse with about 5600ish dpi to have approximatively the same speed at 6/11 (1:1 ratio) right? Or am I interpreting this incorrectly?
Does this mean that the Intellimouse mice are not suitable for SC2? Because I got the MSIME 3.0, and setting it to 6/11 in Windows and 50% in SC2 is way too slow, and there is not way to change the DPI, AFAIK.
On September 03 2010 21:22 ejac wrote: So I use a logitech mx518 with a dpi of 1600 and I have the windows settings at 11/11. At a multiplier of 3.5, I would need a mouse with about 5600ish dpi to have approximatively the same speed at 6/11 (1:1 ratio) right? Or am I interpreting this incorrectly?
What resolution do you play in? Why on earth do you need more than 1600 dpi? That seems like a completely unplayable sensitivity if your mouse is actually at 1600 dpi... But yes, I guess you'd need 5600ish. However, please consider the difference between 1600 dpi and the sensitivity you use now in terms of how far you have to move the mouse. If you play SC2 1680x1050 you only have to move about an inch to traverse the entire screen left to right. Using much higher than that will probably give you RSI/carpal tunnel.
It seems like a lot of people watch progamer FPvods and completely misunderstand that their fast mouse movement is due to fast hands, not a ridiculous sensitivity. e.g.
He actually moves the mouse quite a lot. I'd say NaDa uses correct settings with mini optical -- 6/11 Windows @ 400 dpi, so ~ slightly more than an inch for a total left->right (because BW is locked to 640x480).
On September 03 2010 21:31 relay wrote: Does this mean that the Intellimouse mice are not suitable for SC2? Because I got the MSIME 3.0, and setting it to 6/11 in Windows and 50% in SC2 is way too slow, and there is not way to change the DPI, AFAIK.
Depends on what resolution you use, but yeah unfortunately... If you don't mind the pixel skipping, just play with whatever. It's frustrating as 3.0 and 1.1 are my favourite mice which I've used since ~2001 or so, and it's just not high enough dpi for SC2. FPS games are still fine, of course, but for RTS with resolution > 800x600 it's a bit too slow without raping the precision.
On September 03 2010 21:22 ejac wrote: So I use a logitech mx518 with a dpi of 1600 and I have the windows settings at 11/11. At a multiplier of 3.5, I would need a mouse with about 5600ish dpi to have approximatively the same speed at 6/11 (1:1 ratio) right? Or am I interpreting this incorrectly?
What resolution do you play in? Why on earth do you need more than 1600 dpi? That seems like a completely unplayable sensitivity if your mouse is actually at 1600 dpi... But yes, I guess you'd need 5600ish. However, please consider the difference between 1600 dpi and the sensitivity you use now in terms of how far you have to move the mouse. If you play SC2 1680x1050 you only have to move about an inch to traverse the entire screen left to right. Using much higher than that will probably give you RSI/carpal tunnel.
It seems like a lot of people watch progamer FPvods and completely misunderstand that their fast mouse movement is due to fast hands, not a ridiculous sensitivity. e.g.
He actually moves the mouse quite a lot. I'd say NaDa uses correct settings with mini optical -- 6/11 Windows @ 400 dpi, so ~ slightly more than an inch for a total left->right (because BW is locked to 640x480).
ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is like Vladimir Horowitz (one of the best if not the best concert pianist of all time) of the sc keyboard. god damn his left hand is pressing those buttons fast.
On September 03 2010 21:31 relay wrote: Does this mean that the Intellimouse mice are not suitable for SC2? Because I got the MSIME 3.0, and setting it to 6/11 in Windows and 50% in SC2 is way too slow, and there is not way to change the DPI, AFAIK.
Depends on what resolution you use, but yeah unfortunately... If you don't mind the pixel skipping, just play with whatever. It's frustrating as 3.0 and 1.1 are my favourite mice which I've used since ~2001 or so, and it's just not high enough dpi for SC2. FPS games are still fine, of course, but for RTS with resolution > 800x600 it's a bit too slow without raping the precision.
I play with 1680x1050 on a 22" LCD. I guess I have to dig out my old Deathadder, and set it to 900 DPI.
On September 03 2010 21:22 ejac wrote: So I use a logitech mx518 with a dpi of 1600 and I have the windows settings at 11/11. At a multiplier of 3.5, I would need a mouse with about 5600ish dpi to have approximatively the same speed at 6/11 (1:1 ratio) right? Or am I interpreting this incorrectly?
What resolution do you play in? Why on earth do you need more than 1600 dpi? That seems like a completely unplayable sensitivity if your mouse is actually at 1600 dpi... But yes, I guess you'd need 5600ish. However, please consider the difference between 1600 dpi and the sensitivity you use now in terms of how far you have to move the mouse. If you play SC2 1680x1050 you only have to move about an inch to traverse the entire screen left to right. Using much higher than that will probably give you RSI/carpal tunnel.
lol well, my resolution is 1920x1080, and yes, I don't know exactly how far I have to move my mouse to get it to go to one side of the screen of the other, but it's pretty damn small. Most people who use my comp can't handle it, it's always fun watching them try before I tell them to press the +/- buttons on my mouse. I had my mouse set to this sensitivity well before I started playing sc2.
btw, I'm not trying to emulate any pros with my mouse speed, it's simply that I'm use to it, and its the way I like it. I've had it this way for years. Whenever I go to my college's computer lab, it always annoys me how even if I set the mouse to max sensitivity, they still aren't nearly as sensitive.
When I play broodwar since the resolution was set lower I just had chaos launcher do a different mouse speed.
On September 03 2010 21:31 relay wrote: Does this mean that the Intellimouse mice are not suitable for SC2? Because I got the MSIME 3.0, and setting it to 6/11 in Windows and 50% in SC2 is way too slow, and there is not way to change the DPI, AFAIK.
Depends on what resolution you use, but yeah unfortunately... If you don't mind the pixel skipping, just play with whatever. It's frustrating as 3.0 and 1.1 are my favourite mice which I've used since ~2001 or so, and it's just not high enough dpi for SC2. FPS games are still fine, of course, but for RTS with resolution > 800x600 it's a bit too slow without raping the precision.
Did you found a suitable mouse so far for SC2? I really really love my old IM 1.1, but 400 DPI just aren't enough. I couldn't get used to my Razer Salmosa, because the shape of it sucks.
On September 03 2010 21:31 relay wrote: Does this mean that the Intellimouse mice are not suitable for SC2? Because I got the MSIME 3.0, and setting it to 6/11 in Windows and 50% in SC2 is way too slow, and there is not way to change the DPI, AFAIK.
Depends on what resolution you use, but yeah unfortunately... If you don't mind the pixel skipping, just play with whatever. It's frustrating as 3.0 and 1.1 are my favourite mice which I've used since ~2001 or so, and it's just not high enough dpi for SC2. FPS games are still fine, of course, but for RTS with resolution > 800x600 it's a bit too slow without raping the precision.
Did you found a suitable mouse so far for SC2? I really really love my old IM 1.1, but 400 DPI just aren't enough. I couldn't get used to my Razer Salmosa, because the shape of it sucks.
I've never tried Salmosa, but I personally like the shape of Deathadder better than IME 3.0. And I can play with 900 DPI. :o)
On September 03 2010 21:31 relay wrote: Does this mean that the Intellimouse mice are not suitable for SC2? Because I got the MSIME 3.0, and setting it to 6/11 in Windows and 50% in SC2 is way too slow, and there is not way to change the DPI, AFAIK.
Depends on what resolution you use, but yeah unfortunately... If you don't mind the pixel skipping, just play with whatever. It's frustrating as 3.0 and 1.1 are my favourite mice which I've used since ~2001 or so, and it's just not high enough dpi for SC2. FPS games are still fine, of course, but for RTS with resolution > 800x600 it's a bit too slow without raping the precision.
Did you found a suitable mouse so far for SC2? I really really love my old IM 1.1, but 400 DPI just aren't enough. I couldn't get used to my Razer Salmosa, because the shape of it sucks.
Not yet : ( The Abyssus might be a good choice, but I've heard the sensor has issues with a lot of mouse pads like QcK. Maybe the Zowie EC2 (I think it's meant to be ~ the same shape/size as a 1.1, the EC1 is similar to 3.0). They look decent, but they do have mouse prediction/correction if that bothers you (1.1 does not).
On September 05 2010 00:52 nihoh wrote: I keep it at 400 DPI 6/11 no acceleration 50% in game.. It's a tad bit slow but I odn't mind cos I come from CS. IE3.0 btw.
On September 03 2010 21:31 relay wrote: Does this mean that the Intellimouse mice are not suitable for SC2? Because I got the MSIME 3.0, and setting it to 6/11 in Windows and 50% in SC2 is way too slow, and there is not way to change the DPI, AFAIK.
Depends on what resolution you use, but yeah unfortunately... If you don't mind the pixel skipping, just play with whatever. It's frustrating as 3.0 and 1.1 are my favourite mice which I've used since ~2001 or so, and it's just not high enough dpi for SC2. FPS games are still fine, of course, but for RTS with resolution > 800x600 it's a bit too slow without raping the precision.
Did you found a suitable mouse so far for SC2? I really really love my old IM 1.1, but 400 DPI just aren't enough. I couldn't get used to my Razer Salmosa, because the shape of it sucks.
Not yet : ( The Abyssus might be a good choice, but I've heard the sensor has issues with a lot of mouse pads like QcK. Maybe the Zowie EC2 (I think it's meant to be ~ the same shape/size as a 1.1, the EC1 is similar to 3.0). They look decent, but they do have mouse prediction/correction if that bothers you (1.1 does not).
Jeah the Zowie EC2 might be a good option. I read some asian reviews about it like:
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