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so i guess at least that if you want to be something near top How many SC2 hours/day is the most efficient? - Page 10
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kYem
United Kingdom412 Posts
so i guess at least that if you want to be something near top | ||
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sOvrn
United States678 Posts
On July 26 2010 08:13 Sabresandiego wrote: Both mental IQ and physical ability are elastic in that they can change. Generally your mental abilities are far less elastic than your physical abilities, but this does not mean they are inelastic. I'm not sure if I'm understanding all this "raise your IQ with practice," but this quote is true. There is evidence suggesting that even just living with a person with a higher IQ (i.e. spouse) will increase your IQ scores, so I would agree that mental ability is somewhat elastic. But it's obvious that there is some sort of a limitation as it would be doubtful that anyone could raise their IQ from 100 to 160, assuming that there was no environmental factor that misrepresented the initial IQ score. | ||
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Floophead_III
United States1832 Posts
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Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
You only have this life, then that's it. You'll only be young once. Do you really want to spend your youth, while you're hot, focusing on a game 24/7 instead of having friends, perhaps a girlfriend or a boyfriend, competing in other sport just for fun? Are you doing what you believe in, or are you settling for what you are doing? Are you settling on game because you think you can't achieve more / are too nerdy to go out and live a "normal" life? That can be overcome, but time can't go back. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On July 26 2010 08:27 kYem wrote: I remember i was training for wcg 2007 for around 8h-10h a day. It did pay off, as unknown player was able to take 4 place so i guess at least that if you want to be something near top I hate to say it, but that means very little if you are in fact from the U.K. There are very few well really good BW players from those parts. Midian is a fantastic player, but other than him there are very few. Duelist, don't get all sentimental on us. They will do whatever they want with their leisure time. Let them live the dream and some of them might do a okay. With that said, you really don't need to be spending 12 hours a day practicing non-stop. In fact some really good players practice about half that and in some cases players like Mondragon have the raw talent to pick up the game and practice 4-6 hours for a few weeks before certain tourneys and they still do alright. Raw talent. ;/ | ||
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kzn
United States1218 Posts
On July 26 2010 08:52 Duelist wrote: competing in other sport just for fun? You realize there are people (including me) for whom the idea of "competing for fun" is ridiculous? I literally cannot understand people who enjoy playing a game when they aren't improving with the explicit goal of being the best player of that game in the world. | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + It's OVER NINE THOUSAND!!! | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On July 26 2010 08:07 jabberwokie wrote: Too bad observing mechanical dominance is easier then observing mental dominance and this negative dichotomy impacts the watchability and thus the design emphasis and decision making. I seriously doubt anyone watches commentated games because they are so impressed with NonY's spamming APM or able to balance micro and macro in the heat of a battle. | ||
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Meldrath
United States620 Posts
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starcat
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harky
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Two
United States95 Posts
On July 26 2010 07:48 ProHellZerg wrote: The topic is called "How many SC2 hours/day is the most efficient?" and the poster said, "To be a top of the line SC2 Pro Gamer, I'm on the fence what number is the "sweet spot" for me, or people in general." That means the poster wants to know how many hours he should practice per day to become a SC2 pro-gamer. So, your measly 4-6 hours of practice per day is invalid to this topic. Also, it's too early to say how many hours someone needs to become a SC2 pro-gamer since this game is not even out! Moreover, people in general do not have right ideas on how to become a SC2 pro-gamer yet. You don't even know what you are talking about sir =] | ||
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-HellZerg-
United States409 Posts
On July 26 2010 09:46 Two wrote: You don't even know what you are talking about sir =] Then prove it. Actually, you are the one who doesn't even know what one's talking about. Sabresandiego actually said at the end of his first paragraph, "The bottom line is this: Excessive Gaming has the following negative effects on most people. -Low productivity -Poor Social Life -Poor Health -Ugly from lack of exercize and sun -No girlfriend -No self esteem -No job, bad grades" But, you deviated from this Excessive Gaming idea and said instead that you only play 4-6 hours a day and gained the following: -High productivity -Active social life (Starcraft community and real life) -Great Health (Eating right, Working out, Staying away from parties [NOT KILLING MY LIVER]) -Sexy from lots of exercize and sun ;D -Awesome girlfriend -High self esteem -Good job, Good grades So, do you really consider 4-6 hours a day of playing SC2 as Excessive Gaming? Hell no. | ||
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cyrus.beacon
United States22 Posts
On July 26 2010 08:52 Duelist wrote: Even though i gave some advice on how to spend a lot of hours playing effectively i will make clear i don't reccomend it to anyone. You have to think about if you really want to spend your youth playing the game. Ask yourself these questions: You only have this life, then that's it. You'll only be young once. Do you really want to spend your youth, while you're hot, focusing on a game 24/7 instead of having friends, perhaps a girlfriend or a boyfriend, competing in other sport just for fun? Are you doing what you believe in, or are you settling for what you are doing? Are you settling on game because you think you can't achieve more / are too nerdy to go out and live a "normal" life? That can be overcome, but time can't go back. Ok I only read the first and last page of this thread, but I have to say that with the exception of Duelist up here you people are all crazy. Look, I love SC too, but are you all planning on becoming pros? How are you going to survive in life? Outside of Korea no one is making a living playing videogames. That may change with the launch of SC2 and Blizzard's supposed focus on esports, who knows, but man, all I can say is, ReMeDy, if you are 24, don't have a degree yet, have no job, live with your parents, don't have a girlfriend, and play SC 6+ hours a day, you are not setting yourself up for a very happy life ten years from now. All the rest of you shouldn't jump in here and encourage him! SC is my favorite game of all time and deserves all the success it's had, but nobody should throw their life away for it. If you are serious about going pro, then practice 12 hours a day for half a year and see where it gets you. But the fact that you would even come on this forum and ask, essentially, what the minimum amount of time is rather than just taking it on yourself to grind lends me to think you'd be better off focusing on your studies, career, and social life, and just keeping SC as a hobby. | ||
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cArn-
Korea (South)824 Posts
On July 25 2010 16:18 MuTT wrote: I find it horrifying that people are actually trying to be pro gamers. Such a terrible idea! Get a degree in computer science or engineering and you will have a better income for the rest of your life with less work. Being a progamer takes the fun out of the game because you are playing because you have too. If you get burned out it must be like working 12 hours a day at any other shitty job. Let's assess the gains and risk +'s -small chance of earning 6 figure / famous among nerds -enjoy what you play (best case) -'s - zero social life -most likely will be making less than minimum wage -not a good future for after sc2 - Most likely will postpone getting laid by years -Stressful/ not a steady income - Good chance of not liking the game you play - Cannot go on extended breaks - Competing with other people who are fanatical to get that small sum of money -list goes on and one but i don't wanna stretch this out TL;DR: Being a pro gamer is one of the worst 'careers' imaginable You obviously never experienced this kind of activity. You wouldn't be saying this otherwise. Also, there is no reason to not like the game you play, if you try to make a living, or at least being full time gamer in a game you don't even enjoy to the point you can play it 10+ hours a day, then yeah it's completely stupid. As stupid as working in something you don't like, it will never last long. Edit : Dont' forget that people who actually were into some progaming carrer have a very huge credibility in the eyes of companies working in the field of video games, so they can actually work with those as they are kind of video game icons who a huge part of the gamers around the world would know. Being associated with such guys increase the company's credibility a lot, so don't worry about them. However it's true that this will be the case mostly for the very best ones, but with esports keeping growing and growing I'm not really worried about it getting recognised as a sport such as football or so. | ||
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billyX333
United States1360 Posts
On July 26 2010 06:45 Sabresandiego wrote: You cant convince nerds to stop gaming 8 hours a day just like you cant convince fat people to stop eating all day (trust me I have tried). The bottom line is this: Excessive Gaming has the following negative effects on most people. -Low productivity -Poor Social Life -Poor Health -Ugly from lack of exercize and sun -No girlfriend -No self esteem -No job, bad grades However if you dont value any of the above things than feel free to game all day long every day. Its the same with fat people. If they would rather eat whatever they want and eat all the time, rather than look good and have good health it is the choice they made. When they are in the hospital with heart disease 20 years later, they can only blame themselves. As for the gamer, when you are 40-50 and broke with no wife or gf and no longer a progamer you have only yourself to thank. WARNING excessive gaming or any sort of ambition to become a pro gamer will lead to: -inability to read, write, or learn -inability to talk/have fun with girls -permanent depression/poor self confidence -infertility and probably aids too seriously guy most college students that I know already work 8 hours a day while maintaining a high GPA and an active social life Replace those working hours with a gaming profession some people have inherited good financial circumstances and aren't jeopardizing themselves whatsoever by playing video games what fucked up world do you guys live in that 6-8 hours a day is not enough to stay healthy the maximum I needed to maintain a ripped physique was 1 hour a day at the home gym (back when i cared about superficial non sense) eat and work out quickly at home and minimize your daily commute and voila you fucking magically have spare time now | ||
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junemermaid
United States981 Posts
1) divide your time to actually work on your short comings 2) know how to study & the best way to study (i.e. for an extreme, in calculus, someone who memorizes all the derivatives for every equation in the textbook vs someone who learns the general rule) 3) gauge your progress with feedback from others who are professionals or more experienced than you are. Because, really, forum advice can only go so far. However, to become proficient in any skill takes a lot of long hours. It depends on how commited you are to the craft, so to speak. I'd wager 10-12 hours a day are pretty normal for starting off pro-gamers. Ask any graduate student, 10 hour days are typical. I used to work 12 hours at my lab for 5-6 days a week. After I learned the ins and outs of how to get work done in a timely and correct manner, I started working about 10 hours 5 days a week (yeah I'm a lazy grad student). If you aren't looking to get pro-gamer status, probably 5-6 hours a day would get you pretty far (top of your division) if you aren't wasting your time and are learning from your mistakes. | ||
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SayfT
Australia298 Posts
 too much uni work + other commitments | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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