Gold Minerals Evaluated - Page 2

On June 20 2010 13:30 virgozero wrote:
u guys dont take into account risk and drone count !!!!!!

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Like if you over saturate, that is in theory wasting minerals because all those workers couldve been moola. If your going for gold, perhaps u can bring a portion of ur perfectly saturated natural into the gold and since the natural is nearly worn out, it may be perfect.

So especailly for zerg it gives u options to build other stuff stead of drones.

Just my $0.02

On June 21 2010 10:23 waffling1 wrote:

horrible wording. i'm not quite sure what u mean, can u reword?

edit: ok i understood what u mean here. i think it would be better if it was reworded like this


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I reorganized this bit of info with clearer labels and the calculations included for the reader.
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In light of these numbers, i would also add in the conclusions of strategic decisions:

1) the decision to take a gold or a regular expo: not super super significant in terms of gold payout.

2) but it is significant in that it requires less workers to saturate. The earlier the game, the more significant. making 5 less drones (compared to an 8 mineral patch base) early on is 250 mienrals, plus 17 x 5 game time seconds (plus larvae if you're zerg, and possibly queen energy and possibly a whole larvae cycle worth of time.) this can make a big deal for doing or defending a timing push, etc.

3) combining 1 and 2, if you're not REALLY banking for a timing push or you're in a situation where taking the gold is much more riskier than taking a nearby, more easily defend expo, then it's probably better not to take the gold

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BTW, what is the actual saturation ratio? it would be different depending on the number of mineral patches. so

8 mineral patches
saturation ratio = ?

7 mineral patches
saturation ratio = ?

6 mineral patches
saturation ratio = ?

With these numbers, we can do the same thing in the spoiler and get slightly more accurate percentages, if anyone wanted to know them more closer to the actual value.

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big concept here. u also threw it in the middle of a paragraph that dealt with other things.
r u saying 85 game time seconds, ASSSUMING ur building drones from that one hatch?

If so, it's good to point out that the ONLY factor determining this is the number of mineral patches (6 as opposed to 7 or 8).

Now this should bring up an obvious issue that you failed to address:
"Is this 85 second difference based on comparing the 7 mineral patch base or 8 mineral patch base?"
ambiguous.

But it doenst matter, even if u specified:
When u take a gold expansion, u should be transfering at least 12 drones (2 per mineral patch) IMMEDIATELY, since the greatest mining rate difference is to be gained in the unsaturated state (i.e. 40% - same number of workers) keep in mind ppl transfer drones in BW, where all mineral patches are not judged by their color or the content of their minerals.

Thus another reason why that 85 second comparison is meaningless, (as well as ambiguous).
If anything, b/c u want this gold expansion to be saturated ASAP, the gold expansion is the most quickly saturated out of all bases, if u wanna get really technical.

but i think the time of saturation when taking expos is very meaningless when comparing gold vs non gold expos




i don't mean to bash. i say all this with the most improvement-mindful of intentions.
plus, i'm just fulfilling an order:

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