| Forum Index > SC2 General |
|
LunarC
United States1186 Posts
1. Lurkers allow you to devote larvae to making Drones instead of more Lurkers. 2. Lurkers give Zerg near-absolute positional control while Banelings do not. 3. Lurkers demand great skill with positioning and army movement from both players while Banelings do not. | ||
|
Tone_
United Kingdom554 Posts
On June 18 2010 08:29 EleanorRIgby wrote: take out baneling and put in lurker! The worst comment I have seen in the SC2 forum. | ||
|
nyshak
Germany132 Posts
Plus, it would make sense in a way as the roach is already a "burrow"-unit. | ||
|
SpaceYeti
United States723 Posts
My favorite is to use them burrowed and lure the enemy into them. Autocast unburrow is FTW for n00bier players like me too.  | ||
|
OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
Why would removing the lurker from the zerg army fit within the lore? The lurker was my favourite unit in SC1, and to this day, I still would rather go 3 hatch lurker than 3 hatch muta. I just hate how the cool stuff zerg used to have are ending up in the terran army. - Line AoE = hellions - Dark swarm = point defense drone - Ensnare = Concussive shells | ||
|
Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
 ![[image loading]](http://classic.battle.net/images/battle/scc/zerg/pix/units/Lurker1.gif) They are litterally trying to pull of the same "magic" they did adding the Lurker in Broodwar. One year from now they will announce that the Lurker is being included in Heart of the Swarm because "we listened to the fans". Then they will go on to talk about how incredible and cool this *New* unit is, how much it adds to gameplay yada yada yada. It is yet another example of selling us our beloved ten year old game back to us bit by freaking bit. | ||
|
nyshak
Germany132 Posts
yes yes the sky is falling yada yada yada. You might be right about a reapearance of the lurker in Heart of the Swarm though | ||
|
Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On June 23 2010 03:18 nyshak wrote: @ Archerofaiur yes yes the sky is falling yada yada yada. You might be right about a reapearance of the lurker in Heart of the Swarm though lol right im wrong but everything im saying will probably come true.... | ||
|
nyshak
Germany132 Posts
On June 23 2010 03:32 Archerofaiur wrote: lol right im wrong but everything im saying will probably come true.... More like you might be right some but don't have to blow it out of proportion  | ||
|
Ramsing
Canada233 Posts
On June 23 2010 02:31 OreoBoi wrote: I think the lore debate is not valid. Why would removing the lurker from the zerg army fit within the lore? The lurker was my favourite unit in SC1, and to this day, I still would rather go 3 hatch lurker than 3 hatch muta. I just hate how the cool stuff zerg used to have are ending up in the terran army. - Line AoE = hellions - Dark swarm = point defense drone - Ensnare = Concussive shells Hellions are basically a mix of firebat and vult, so not really. Other ones are hard to disagree with. | ||
|
SurtiC
Canada43 Posts
| ||
|
Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On June 23 2010 03:40 nyshak wrote: More like you might be right some but don't have to blow it out of proportion If Blizzard wouldnt take stuff out of the game only to sell it back to us later than I wouldnt. | ||
|
Pking
Sweden142 Posts
| ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 23 2010 03:56 Archerofaiur wrote: If Blizzard wouldnt take stuff out of the game only to sell it back to us later than I wouldnt. Well, to be fair, they have to add things to all races if they're going to add back the lurker to Zerg, and it's perfectly reasonable that they might not have solid new units for Protoss and Terran lined up yet, so they pushed back one unit to HotS. I don't like that the unit was the Lurker, but it's perfectly reasonable to think that they plan to put it in later not because they're just trying to sell it back to us again, but because they need new Terran/Protoss units to go with it. On June 23 2010 02:31 OreoBoi wrote: I just hate how the cool stuff zerg used to have are ending up in the terran army. - Line AoE = hellions - Dark swarm = point defense drone - Ensnare = Concussive shells As was mentioned before, the Hellion is just Firebat+Vulture. Point Defense Drone is actually more of an AoE defense matrix than a Dark Swarm (it breaks based on taking damage, not based on time, and absorbs almost the exact same amount of damage that Defense Matrix does), and I don't think you can say that an AoE spell that slowed both move and attack speed is really analogous to a single-target ability tied to an attack that only affects movement speed. | ||
|
Salvarias
Denmark231 Posts
Im not gonna let some long haired hippie, who don't belive in violance and possible play terran, tell me that I do no need my favorit unit! | ||
|
Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On June 23 2010 05:10 TheYango wrote: Well, to be fair, they have to add things to all races if they're going to add back the lurker to Zerg, and it's perfectly reasonable that they might not have solid new units for Protoss and Terran lined up yet, so they pushed back one unit to HotS. I don't like that the unit was the Lurker, but it's perfectly reasonable to think that they plan to put it in later not because they're just trying to sell it back to us again, but because they need new Terran/Protoss units to go with it. How do you figure? Last I checked zerg had the least units. | ||
|
nyshak
Germany132 Posts
Its still SC2 and not a brand new IP. There will be old units that get "resold" to you like idk the Hydralisk and the siege tank and the Ultra and the zergling and the and the..... If you don't like that just don't buy the game. | ||
|
Ouga
Finland645 Posts
I miss lurkers too obviously, it was nice technique that they worked as slowly moving defense while gaining map control when opponent had to get moving detection before being able to move out of their bases. I just don't see it as beneficial here, when it's more important to drone longer @ t1, and there's nothing as huge to rush for in t3 as there was in sc1, so as delaying pattern it doesn't make as much sense. | ||
|
Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On June 23 2010 05:45 nyshak wrote: If you don't like that just don't buy the game. Great logic. Thanks. | ||
|
beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
On June 18 2010 08:51 MorroW wrote: i dont think lurker would be easy to balance. marauders would make them useless but they would totally rape zealots and so why would u even want to build the lurker when the baneling is 10 times better and easier to control sc1 had tons of back and forth micro battles that took long time and were so exciting because of units like lurker. the baneling is just attack move and either u stand and fight or u stim and run away. theres no dancing in sc2 which imo is a core part of micromanagement It's different to fight against pure Banes and against something that tanks for them while they get closer. Since it's Zerglings most of the time all you need to do is micro in any other way than standing still or running away, as you, the Terran race, has Lurker now. It has the same range, It doesn't have to burrow and it has wheels. It's fast and it's impossible to avoid it's flame. Actually, hit and running isn't even that different from standing still or running away - it's doing those things faster. While Banes are the most cost effective in clumps, it's also time when they are the easiest to deal with by using Siege Tanks and High Templars. Will you be an even bigger hypocrite and tell me that you don't know it? | ||
| ||
StarCraft 2 StarCraft: Brood War Dota 2 League of Legends Counter-Strike Super Smash Bros Heroes of the Storm Other Games summit1g11467 tarik_tv4661 FrodaN690 shahzam446 C9.Mang0214 ArmadaUGS119 ZombieGrub57 QueenE43 Trikslyr33 ViBE4 |
|
Replay Cast
Escore
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
OSC
Big Brain Bouts
MaNa vs goblin
Scarlett vs Spirit
Serral vs herO
Korean StarCraft League
CranKy Ducklings
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
IPSL
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
[ Show More ] |
|
|
EPT
