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exnomendei
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 01:12:28
June 10 2010 21:32 GMT
#1
This was a response to a random post on the EU Blizzard forums:

Quote (Zhydraris):

Absolutely. The game isn't perfect, Battle.Net isn't perfect. But you know what? We'll try to get there.
And yes, we definitely need you all to get there, with all the feedback you can provide. We'll do our best because we don't want to let you down.

This is an amazing company and it keeps surprising me. Several months ago I tried an unfinished version of one of the localized clients. It was good, indeed. But that was it. Just good.
I recently tried a more polished version of the same client and all I could think was "... Wow, this is amazing". Just when I thought that the localized version was good, I was blown away by the attention to details that was put in that version. And I'm confident that the same thing will happen again and again, at release, at every content patch, and so on.
Just bear with us, because we definitely didn't forget our "Commit to quality" core value.

---- END QUOTE ----

Source


Apart from the obvious "never gonna give you up, never gonna give you down" aspect of this post, I'd like to state another obvious thing:

Blizzard wants to make this game good. Blizzard wants this game to be loved. Blizzard has not been eaten by Activision.

We're all upset because feature x (chat chanels, LAN support, Lurkers, Reavers, Defilers, Scourge, Arbiters, Goliaths, etc.) is not included in the game, but just because they don't have everything from BW doesn't mean the game will fail automatically.

And that's all I have to say about that... (/Forrest Gump)
Trying something wacky, expanding it, adjusting it, perfecting it -> Build order
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
June 10 2010 21:35 GMT
#2
Notice they said nothing about chatrooms or anything the community has asked for, he just gives of an anecdotal story about how things are gonna be just GREAT!
Sup
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
June 10 2010 21:37 GMT
#3
this is totally meaningless after everything said so far

i mean, yeah, its nice, but thats it. there's nothing important in there, just PR. And no amount of PR will save them now.
Xeneize
Profile Joined April 2010
United States20 Posts
June 10 2010 21:40 GMT
#4
Little Less PR and a little more results would go a long way to changing our minds. I definitely am seeing a much different attitude from Blizzard now than I was back when they weren't tied with Activision, so I feel that the burden of proof that they haven't changed is squarely on them.
v3chr0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States856 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-10 21:47:51
June 10 2010 21:40 GMT
#5
On June 11 2010 06:35 avilo wrote:
Notice they said nothing about chatrooms or anything the community has asked for, he just gives of an anecdotal story about how things are gonna be just GREAT!


Can we honestly expect anything different from Blizzard beside greatness? The fact that they are listening to complaints about B.net 2.0 and making changes because of them is enough to have hope.

What good does it do to sulk and cry about what they didn't say, read between the lines, not everything has to be spelled out for you. Inevitably it all ends the same way, they add what we want, and regardless we all continue to love and play the games they create.

Every day there are so many complaints in different forms about Battle.net 2.0;
DO YOU SERIOUSLY THINK THEY DON'T KNOW/CARE ABOUT THIS?
Get a clue, honestly, there is a REASON why Blizzard has always come out on top.
"He catches him with his pants down, backs him off into a corner, and then it's over." - Khaldor
Silent12ill
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States358 Posts
June 10 2010 21:41 GMT
#6
Aren't we still waiting for something that is suposed to help one of our "major concerns" about
bnet 2.0. Game as is Im somewhat okay with. Most of my friends that play have steam anyways
If blizzard actually catered to the masses I don't see why they couldn't get away with charging us
monthly. But if they really do charge /month and don't give something good. People will get mad...
Sting
Profile Joined May 2003
Serbia76 Posts
June 10 2010 21:44 GMT
#7
On June 11 2010 06:35 avilo wrote:
Notice they said nothing about chatrooms or anything the community has asked for, he just gives of an anecdotal story about how things are gonna be just GREAT!


Reminds me of some politicians
Resurrection : Life sux and then you die. And then, life sux again...
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
June 10 2010 21:45 GMT
#8
they say one thing and do another.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
Tone_
Profile Joined May 2009
United Kingdom554 Posts
June 10 2010 21:47 GMT
#9
What? The guy says absolutely nothing of any use or relevance and the OP is defending this for some reason.

There is nothing hugely impressive about Bnet 2, not just based on what people want but just in comparison to any other games multiplayer.
Hasta La Victoria Siempre | 톤
soverRR
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden348 Posts
June 10 2010 21:49 GMT
#10
On June 11 2010 06:37 Tropics wrote:
there's nothing important in there, just PR. And no amount of PR will save them now.


This.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
June 10 2010 21:49 GMT
#11
We're all upset because feature x (chat chanels, LAN support, Lurkers, Reavers, Defilers, Scourge, Arbiters, Goliaths, etc.) is not included in the game, but just because they don't have everything from BW doesn't mean the game will fail automatically.


The game is good. The game will probably be patched to be even better. If it never matches BW, really that's okay because BW is something special. But we all know this already and I don't know anybody (although some are probably still out there) who's worried about the game.

But we really would like Blizz to fix Battle.net. And we're used to Blizzard listening to fans (and customers) and getting stuff done that we want. Maybe we're spoiled. But in this case, Blizzard is not showing any intention of fixing the stuff the fans are complaining about.

At this point 95% of us are sold that the game's going to be good, but we'd like to actually be able to play it the way we want to.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
June 10 2010 21:53 GMT
#12
uh could you link to this quote?

Blizzard is not showing any intention of fixing the stuff the fans are complaining about.


At this point int the development cycle it isn't realistic to expect them to implement chat channels before release.
Too Busy to Troll!
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
June 10 2010 21:54 GMT
#13
Battle.net 2.0 is matchmaking and otherwise a boatload of steps backwards. Zhydaris admitting it isn't perfect and then telling some unrelated anecdote doesn't do anything to cheer me up.
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
June 10 2010 21:56 GMT
#14
Really there's no point in spelling the doom of Blizzard at this point, nor is there any reason to blindly expect them to deliver all of our wishes. Obviously there's a core set of features missing, and hopefully they will all be there upon phase 2 of the beta or upon launch. There's not really much you can do until we see what Blizzard has planned.

That being said, it'd be nice to hear some specifics for a change, rather than the same vague "it'll be better" message we keep on getting.
GodIsNotHere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada395 Posts
June 10 2010 21:56 GMT
#15
On June 11 2010 06:53 Half wrote:
uh could you link to this quote?

Show nested quote +
Blizzard is not showing any intention of fixing the stuff the fans are complaining about.


At this point int the development cycle it isn't realistic to expect them to implement chat channels before release.

This is true but I'm pretty sure the majority of people take it as a really bad joke that no one at Blizzard thought that the community might just want to have the ability to talk to each other.
In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Goodwill.
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
June 10 2010 21:57 GMT
#16
I can't believe they had to wait like a week and hype up this reply. Lol.
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-10 21:59:08
June 10 2010 21:58 GMT
#17
On June 11 2010 06:56 GodIsNotHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2010 06:53 Half wrote:
uh could you link to this quote?

Blizzard is not showing any intention of fixing the stuff the fans are complaining about.


At this point int the development cycle it isn't realistic to expect them to implement chat channels before release.

This is true but I'm pretty sure the majority of people take it as a really bad joke that no one at Blizzard thought that the community might just want to have the ability to talk to each other.


I agree, which is why this recent outcry has been incredibly beneficial for us. But it still isn't realistic just because we had an outcry that blizzard just poofs up fully working chat channels out of no-where.

On June 11 2010 06:57 KawaiiRice wrote:
I can't believe they had to wait like a week and hype up this reply. Lol.


This wasn't the reply. This was just a normal post lol. It wasn't even on the same forum, this was on EU, bashes post was in NA.
Too Busy to Troll!
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
June 10 2010 21:58 GMT
#18
On June 11 2010 06:57 KawaiiRice wrote:
I can't believe they had to wait like a week and hype up this reply. Lol.


Yah I hope this is not how the "address" they are supposed to give is gonna be.
Sup
exnomendei
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands122 Posts
June 10 2010 22:00 GMT
#19
On June 11 2010 06:54 Scorch wrote:
Battle.net 2.0 is matchmaking and otherwise a boatload of steps backwards. Zhydaris admitting it isn't perfect and then telling some unrelated anecdote doesn't do anything to cheer me up.


I think Blizzard admitting that something is wrong is incredibly important. Most companies don't admit that something is wrong until next year's version (FIFA 2011!) has been announced, so yes, I consider this very very important.

Battle.net wasn't great either when SC just came out. B.net became good through updates and patches. B.net is not the holy grail either, there are also flaws with it, as there are flaws with Iccup and indeed ANY online multiplayer experience.

The fact that Blizzard is stating that they will change this should, at the very least, give us hope (in the simplest sense) that something will change for the better. And don't forget, we all played a beta game.

See you on release day!
Trying something wacky, expanding it, adjusting it, perfecting it -> Build order
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
June 10 2010 22:00 GMT
#20
oh ok
it'll still be the same when they do give a reply tho so whatever I'll treat this quote as if it were their address
@KawaiiRiceLighT
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