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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51553 Posts
April 07 2025 21:54 GMT
#1
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51553 Posts
April 07 2025 21:54 GMT
#2
sharp is going to get creamed by speed lol
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lamarine
Profile Joined January 2003
587 Posts
April 07 2025 22:00 GMT
#3
why did SK put light into his group?
So... BW is back
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26323 Posts
April 07 2025 22:30 GMT
#4
On April 08 2025 07:00 lamarine wrote:
why did SK put light into his group?

Do they get kept out of each other’s way until a potential final if they’re grouped here?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Sorusaba
Profile Joined October 2017
295 Posts
April 07 2025 23:04 GMT
#5
D for death? Brutal group! C is strong and seemingly even, too.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1137 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-08 00:35:49
April 08 2025 00:35 GMT
#6
On April 08 2025 06:54 GTR wrote:
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Group A seems like SK and Light will proceed, but Barracks and Scan can upset in TvT.

Group B is much closer than I have seen people say it is. Speed has had Jaedong's number for the past year and a half. It is going to be toughest for JD in this group because Jaedong also doesnt do super well vs Best. Sharp is hard to gauge because he can perform really well on stage, but it doesnt always show in online play. He is difficult to place because of it. Anything can happen in this group and it is a group of great uncertainty. Chaos group.

Group C has the same issue as Group B. Everyone is really strong and in good form. Rain looked weakish in the past months but He recently beat Speed in a best of series and seems to have his act together again just on time. We will have to wait and see if he actually brings it on stage. He is the hardest to place in this group because its all PvZ or PvP, and I dont have much data for how he has been faring vs zerg recently. Bisu, Action, and Queen all look like they are in great shape. Bisu looked shaky in Ro24 but since his return to streaming he has look great.

Group D is the ultimate group of death and doom of all time. Snow best toss for years now. Mini when he peaks he is almost the best. Rush has always been a solid solid performer in these match ups. HerO lools super strong and better than ever.
JDON MY SOUL!
maybe
Profile Joined January 2008
258 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-08 03:25:37
April 08 2025 03:17 GMT
#7
Everyone asking why SK put Light into his group, I think the main reason, he only has to practice ZvT for the ro16 now.

Edit: maybe this too
On April 08 2025 07:30 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2025 07:00 lamarine wrote:
why did SK put light into his group?

Do they get kept out of each other’s way until a potential final if they’re grouped here?

maybe
Profile Joined January 2008
258 Posts
April 08 2025 03:20 GMT
#8
I'm not really familiar how these last picks go though, could he have last picked any one to his group? Like Sharp? (Maybe less of a threat in ZvT than Light right now idk)
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3120 Posts
April 08 2025 03:56 GMT
#9
Hoping for some non-terrible PvZs that go the distance. So much potential in this matchup, I feel. Just gotta get past the groundhog day early game and into some reaver-defiler goodies.

Always rooting for Mini. And this might be the season of Speed. Can't wait!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8532 Posts
April 08 2025 05:09 GMT
#10
Maybe JD can qualify...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8532 Posts
April 08 2025 05:50 GMT
#11
Group D is insane!

But it is a lottery for LB..
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1678 Posts
April 08 2025 06:35 GMT
#12
It is hard to predict anything with a bo1. For all I know, aside of SK group, it could go in any direction.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8532 Posts
April 08 2025 08:11 GMT
#13
On April 08 2025 15:35 iFU.pauline wrote:
It is hard to predict anything with a bo1. For all I know, aside of SK group, it could go in any direction.

Is bo1 or bo 3 ??
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines409 Posts
April 08 2025 08:11 GMT
#14
Group A: Poor Scan. Realistically Soulkey and Light will go through but I pray for Scan to pull off a miracle run.

Group B: Speed is looking so good recently so I am sort of expecting him to get through, but I'm rooting for JD all the way.

Group C will depend on which Rain will show up. If it is the lazy ass Rain that prefers playing league or watching university over taking proleague seriously, then I'd rather have Bisu and ZerO go through instead.

Grpup D: I root for Snow but dude has the odds stacked against him. Maybe him and Mini will go through.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
April 08 2025 08:27 GMT
#15
man those groups are crazy lol
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HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey761 Posts
April 08 2025 09:20 GMT
#16
Dual tournament format: First two matches: Bo1 - Final three matches: Bo3

On April 08 2025 17:11 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2025 15:35 iFU.pauline wrote:
It is hard to predict anything with a bo1. For all I know, aside of SK group, it could go in any direction.

Is bo1 or bo 3 ??

Last.Midnight
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia906 Posts
April 08 2025 09:24 GMT
#17
I think Speed gets out without losing a game.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8532 Posts
April 08 2025 09:55 GMT
#18
On April 08 2025 18:20 HOLYBATS wrote:
Dual tournament format: First two matches: Bo1 - Final three matches: Bo3

Show nested quote +
On April 08 2025 17:11 prosatan wrote:
On April 08 2025 15:35 iFU.pauline wrote:
It is hard to predict anything with a bo1. For all I know, aside of SK group, it could go in any direction.

Is bo1 or bo 3 ??



thanks HOLYBATS !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4237 Posts
April 08 2025 10:31 GMT
#19
So, the starting matchup are as follows:

A -
Soulkey vs Scan
Light vs BarrackS

B -
Sharp vs Speed
Jaedong vs Best

C -
Rain vs Action
Bisu vs ZerO

D -
SnOw vs Rush
hero vs Mini

right???
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4237 Posts
April 08 2025 10:33 GMT
#20
On April 08 2025 17:27 konadora wrote:
man those groups are crazy lol

my thoughts exactly

probably the most stacked ro16.. ever?

with groups C & D being especially bonkers
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