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DJohnson
Canada2 Posts
On June 08 2010 13:15 peckham33 wrote: can someone try putting crawlers through worm an post whether or not it works? One of the first things I tried in the beta. Does not work. | ||
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AceMgy
United States26 Posts
On June 08 2010 10:06 slowmanrunning wrote: umm, you only need 1 nydus network, and 9 nydus worms adds up to 1050/1000, 10 mutas, or 12 ish roaches Although the guy kinda overdoes it in that game, built a few in places he didn't really need to. Edit: thought nydus worms were 50/50 when I first posted this  At that stage in the game it's not all that expensive. Ah, I thought you needed two nydus network buildings to build two worms at once... And yeah, at that stage in the game it's not a big deal dropping 1000 mins 1000 gas. I've gotten bigger buildups of cash before in late-game because my macro slips, I would sure love an excuse to spend that much. I was just looking at it as an early to early mid-game harass technique, if that were cheaper that'd be quite devastating to your min line because it could come that much earlier. And yeah... That Toss just doesn't want to leave a few stalkers behind at all to deal with the new ones. This was more of a joke strat, lol. | ||
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codewarrior
United States52 Posts
On June 08 2010 13:15 peckham33 wrote: can someone try putting crawlers through worm an post whether or not it works? Tried it, you can't put crawlers through the network. What I like to do sometimes is bring drones through a worm and build a few spine crawlers in the enemy base. I'll even bring a queen to be super annoying with creep tumors. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
 This is how you should use nydus worms, I started playing Zerg solely to use nydus worms like the tunnels from zero hour and no, once you start working it into your play it's not extremely expensive, and it certainly is not a "gimmick" - it's something you can do every game in mid-late game, especially to connect all your bases together, and rally hatcheries into nydus worms, it lets you have your army anywhere on the map you want it to be. I'm a Terran player though and only had just started to learn Zerg and develop this Z style, so just imagine what more experienced Zerg-only players can start doing with this when they stop playing stubborn it's good late game. | ||
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rza
Canada384 Posts
but im been spawning more than one in my enemies base. very nice video | ||
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pzea469
United States1520 Posts
On June 08 2010 15:14 DJohnson wrote: One of the first things I tried in the beta. Does not work. this really SHOULD work. Would be sweet | ||
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Tookie22
United States187 Posts
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CrunkOwns
United States138 Posts
Good luck watching it http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=127807 | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On June 09 2010 08:06 kzr22 wrote: so once loaded they can be unloaded on any worm? and worms can spawn more worms this si incredible we could have a nydus at everyone of our expos and never get caught off guard again! the nydus network building cost 100/200 and each one of those initial buildings you build let's you build 1 worm. so if you have 2 or more nydus network buildings, you can build 2 or more worms simultaneously. Each worm costs 100/100 to build. And all of those nydus network buildings and any worms created are all globally connected to each other - you can enter/exit at any network/worm. | ||
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Tookie22
United States187 Posts
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Dremic
66 Posts
but watching this i realize now how i could have easily just landed 2 nydus one in the main and one in the expand and unload at whichever survives, most people dont split their armies. one nydus will be successful in the majority of cases | ||
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prototype.
Canada4189 Posts
Not saying the idea is bad, I'm saying the protoss in the video is bad. | ||
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Papvin
Denmark610 Posts
On June 08 2010 10:19 clickrush wrote: no he could not defend this. this is the hardcounter against toss FE. this is the reason why you should not throw down an FE against a one base zerg. nydus network from one base builds up faster than warpgate tech. Dunno if you're trolling, but, saying there's a hard counter to such a broad concept as toss FE is a bold statement based on a single video. As many has pointed out, the toss could have defended by keeping 2 stalkers in his main, so while this can certainly be a viable tactic as zerg, it's by no means a "hard counter". Also, zerg was on 2 bases. Also, he could in no way afford to do what he did on one base. | ||
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LunarC
United States1186 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
On June 09 2010 09:39 prototype. wrote: Okay, now imagine instead of wasting all your gas on those nydus', the zerg just A moved those roaches against the protoss and built more units. In the end, same result. Not saying the idea is bad, I'm saying the protoss in the video is bad. But you get lots of style points for Nydus spam. | ||
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TheFinalWord
Australia790 Posts
On June 09 2010 09:39 prototype. wrote: Okay, now imagine instead of wasting all your gas on those nydus', the zerg just A moved those roaches against the protoss and built more units. In the end, same result. Not saying the idea is bad, I'm saying the protoss in the video is bad. He had blink stalkers and psy strorm? Wouldn't that completely destroy mass roach? | ||
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s031720
Sweden383 Posts
on a map like desert oasis, blistering sands or others where there are 2 entrances to the base, have a nydus (preferably hidden) outside each, attack 1, retreat, nydus, attack the other etc. Make him run all over the map do defend; while at the same time not exposing the nydusnetworks. | ||
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DooMDash
United States1015 Posts
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Zombo Joe
Canada850 Posts
This of course only works well on big maps with long rush distances. However, if your opponent is smart, he will try to destroy your network. So be ready to defend it and place lots of spore crawlers around it! Losing your network will essentially mean losing your army and/or its mobility. Also, don't build too many zerglings because units are all the deployed at the same rate. So having 20 zerglings will take much longer to deploy than 5 Roaches. Worms are good way to get island bases as you can send a big group of workers through a worm and saturate it immediately and ground units that you build there won't get stranded there. | ||
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blae000
Norway1640 Posts
) in his base and natural to rape his workerline and kill off some buildings. ^^ Ah, I want to play.. | ||
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