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abrasion
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia722 Posts
June 04 2010 11:08 GMT
#521
On June 04 2010 10:53 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:


and we all know 1a is the ultimate goal blizzard has for their casuzals in evry situation eh




I know I'm a total chobo but if you want to complain about SC2 being a 1a game then people need to continue to petition Blizzard to buff the armour of EVERY SINGLE UNIT and nerf the attack strength.
Even if it's only 10% changes - the current strength of the units, combined with their god awful health / armour / shield means that most huge battles are over so god damned m.f.n quickly that there really is no time for exceptional, high skill and exciting micro - even the top players don't always dance their units.

I know it's a War 3 thing but I really did respect dancing units out, mid battle healing units, etc - it's here in SC2 but fucking rare because the poor players are so busy doing other stuff that it's easier to just do a '1a' fight with a good unit mix and at best do some queued focus fire against the enemy using hard counter against hard counter :/

I've seen very few replays where I've just gone 'holy shit that was a sick move' :/
derpmods
abrasion
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia722 Posts
June 04 2010 11:14 GMT
#522
On June 04 2010 11:34 Atrio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 09:07 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Tanks a lot Blizzard T_T


*facepalm*

I like this patch, except for not fixing the ultras/archons.


There's archons in SC2?
derpmods
futtah
Profile Joined June 2010
Denmark29 Posts
June 04 2010 11:19 GMT
#523
This is definitely a community patch!
abrasion
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia722 Posts
June 04 2010 11:23 GMT
#524
On June 04 2010 12:40 InfiniteIce wrote:
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On June 04 2010 12:35 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I personally think its great they're nerfing damage across the board. They have been doing this to a ton of units with each patch (no protoss nerfs this time, but they got it a lot in the past).

Actually allowing units to survive for more than 2 seconds should be pretty fun .


^ QFT, totally agree. Hey, maybe now we'll actually be able to micro a few units so battles last longer than 12 seconds!!! I like the way DPS is going down en totale.



Also agree with this post.
derpmods
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
June 04 2010 11:24 GMT
#525
Those balance-changes (not Patch15, but more or less in general) are so pointless IMHO.

Why not make changes that can't be done when the game is out? They'll be continuing to patch anyways once the game is out, but we will have to live with no highground-advantage, crappy Unit-control and overall broken Units....

Im truly unhappy and I will continue not to play, which is what I've done since patch 13... It's just so disappointing to see Blizzard making those IMHO unnecessary changes and not caring about the gamemechanics, that are just not as good as the fans expected, at least based on what I've heard and read, which is of course highly biased.
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Pking
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden142 Posts
June 04 2010 11:27 GMT
#526
I'd say Vikings where the unit that needed nerfing, it's very mobile and with ravens it completely dominates air. I would nerf its speed to make it a little less mobile. The tank nerf... not so sure, terran late game was the problem, and this will probably effect early/mid-game mech play most..
abrasion
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia722 Posts
June 04 2010 11:29 GMT
#527
On June 04 2010 14:06 Angra wrote:
i cant a-move into a ball of siege tanks.. they must be overpowered


So as has been said multiple times in this thread, it's ok if Terran can A-move into the other races but not the other way round?
derpmods
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
June 04 2010 11:29 GMT
#528
Good patch, will try to use more reaper in early 2v2 now when I get T as random :o

n_n
Mudd
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden27 Posts
June 04 2010 11:36 GMT
#529
On June 04 2010 20:29 abrasion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 14:06 Angra wrote:
i cant a-move into a ball of siege tanks.. they must be overpowered


So as has been said multiple times in this thread, it's ok if Terran can A-move into the other races but not the other way round?

Great going sir, you must be an excellent R player and as such completely unbiased.

Banelings and forcefields don't really force a T player to micro his army so he won't get completely obliverated. Also nevermind the fact that races should have unique units and tactics, it's not that big of deal anyway.
Synk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States297 Posts
June 04 2010 11:42 GMT
#530
Its looking like up to this point noone has been placed in diamond, people with 17-2 records are still sitting in platinum. I'm curious to hear if anyone does get placed in diamond and what kind of record they had when they got there, just wondering if they possibly made it harder to get into ontop of not being able to be placed into it, which would be great. Or the glass is half empty view point is, they removed diamond altogether =/.
Don't argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Panoptic
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom515 Posts
June 04 2010 11:43 GMT
#531
On June 04 2010 20:29 abrasion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 14:06 Angra wrote:
i cant a-move into a ball of siege tanks.. they must be overpowered


So as has been said multiple times in this thread, it's ok if Terran can A-move into the other races but not the other way round?


Thing is, siege tanks don't just A-move do they? they have to get in position and take time to siege up.
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Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
June 04 2010 11:44 GMT
#532
Guess reapers are the way to go early game esp vs zerg (but its such a bitch to micro )
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
June 04 2010 11:49 GMT
#533
Since this is the place to discuss this I`ll bring it up:
What do you guys think of the new way the placements work? You apparently cannot be placed in Diamond any longer. This seems like yet another example of Blizzard listening to it`s community! Makes me think positive thoughts about the future of this game.
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VereZ
Profile Joined April 2010
France34 Posts
June 04 2010 11:52 GMT
#534
On June 04 2010 20:49 Grend wrote:
Since this is the place to discuss this I`ll bring it up:
What do you guys think of the new way the placements work? You apparently cannot be placed in Diamond any longer. This seems like yet another example of Blizzard listening to it`s community! Makes me think positive thoughts about the future of this game.


Yes, this is a cool stuff, finally :p
Bane_
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-04 11:54:57
June 04 2010 11:54 GMT
#535
On June 04 2010 20:49 Grend wrote:
Since this is the place to discuss this I`ll bring it up:
What do you guys think of the new way the placements work? You apparently cannot be placed in Diamond any longer. This seems like yet another example of Blizzard listening to it`s community! Makes me think positive thoughts about the future of this game.


Oh that's a nice change! I wonder how many people were raging when they got 5-0 and ended up in platinum?
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
June 04 2010 11:54 GMT
#536
can't find a thread on this, but is the diamond league even around after this patch? everyone i know thats gone 5-0 is in platinum and there are people who are 20-2 records that havnt been put in diamond yet.
hi
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
June 04 2010 11:55 GMT
#537
Tank nerf wtf... now they are even worse vs protoss. I guess it was to help TvZ balance but imo it'd be better to make roaches be 1.5 supply.
bubusls
Profile Joined March 2010
Romania61 Posts
June 04 2010 12:01 GMT
#538
We're getting there. If they don't hit the soft spot in a month, hey , they're still working on Starcraft for 2 more years, it's not like we can't expect the blizzard installer to download new patches for the released game .
Could I use the term " lings " to refer to ducklings ?
Prem_
Profile Joined April 2010
United States85 Posts
June 04 2010 12:04 GMT
#539
On June 04 2010 09:03 hordeau wrote:
They gave up on protoss nerfing

Lol yes they did.
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Joseki
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States200 Posts
June 04 2010 12:11 GMT
#540
On June 04 2010 20:54 stroggos wrote:
can't find a thread on this, but is the diamond league even around after this patch? everyone i know thats gone 5-0 is in platinum and there are people who are 20-2 records that havnt been put in diamond yet.


I am 21-4 and still Platinum, so Idk. Its either INSANELY hard, or it doesn't exist.
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