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crimsn
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (North)44 Posts
June 04 2010 09:06 GMT
#501
omg wow now broodlords are terrible man they are fucking retarded why even go hive tech
North Korea is Best Korea
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
June 04 2010 09:06 GMT
#502
On June 04 2010 18:06 Dukke wrote:
5-0 puts you in platinum now???


yeah lol same, I went 5-0 and got placed into platinum =D seems we'll have some easy bash.
750/750 emotions fully stacked
Ai.Cola
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany236 Posts
June 04 2010 09:11 GMT
#503
On June 04 2010 18:06 arew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 18:06 Dukke wrote:
5-0 puts you in platinum now???


yeah lol same, I went 5-0 and got placed into platinum =D seems we'll have some easy bash.


You are the shit guys !

For real: everyboy is platinum now with 5:0 (happened to me aswell), so it won't be any easier for you guys.

and once you get into diamond it will be rly nice, because you only get decent opponents.

I only had one game where my opponent wasn't doing some sort of cheese and it was a TvT, he went mass viking with some tanks on scrap station, this strateigy is a huge epic fail now, tvt will change a lot.
check out my stream: http://www.own3d.tv/live/103247/Alien-Invasion_Cola HotS Terran, Grandmaster
lolastic
Profile Joined June 2010
23 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-04 09:19:16
June 04 2010 09:19 GMT
#504
haha bnet forums already full of kids comapling reapers OP
wow just wow ...
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-04 09:22:05
June 04 2010 09:20 GMT
#505
i think they should change the tank to 40+20 vs armored instead of 60 or 50 pure dmg, pure dmg will always own the shit out of ling and hydra before they reach and roach will always have too little dmg to stop the terran army
hellions are there to stop the light units but blizzard isnt realizing that tanks do their job 10 times better

i think it was uncalled for to nerf to hellion dmg as it attacks so slowly, same with the broodlord dmg. also dont agree with how they act on the tank as i explained previously but im glad they r aware of the problem just dont know how to deal with it

oh and forgot about the reapers, love that change, totally fair. ive almost never upgraded that just because its too costly to fit in very early game. might get used now when reaper rushing i dont know
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-04 09:34:49
June 04 2010 09:26 GMT
#506
Maybe they're just regularizing upgrades? The hellion damage nerf is really minor especially. Thor upgrade nerf can make a really difference. The broodlord upgrade nerf does nothing.

I think the tank nerf might the biggest implications for TvT, with combat shield marines not being oneshotted anymore until +2 (if +1 armor). And +1 tanks don't two shot marauders. Probably you want to spend your money on tanks and vikings still, though.

Has anyone gotten into diamond yet?
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
June 04 2010 09:26 GMT
#507
Who reads the bnet forums anyway ?. I tried it several times... afterwards I had to slap mysefl for actually believe theres anythig worth reading

Full of whiners/10 years old just like the WoW forums.

Im still curious how the change will effect TvT.
Im kinda worried about Tvp though I kinda liked getting some tanks/ravens into my bio mix
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
CoMMoDuS
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany507 Posts
June 04 2010 09:26 GMT
#508
as stubborn as blizzard is with their wierdo bnet at least they care about community input about the actual game
There is no unemployment amongst overlords-Artosis
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
June 04 2010 09:46 GMT
#509
Its fun how they try to correct the flaws of their game design with changes to the dmg numbers.

knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
June 04 2010 09:47 GMT
#510
oh ya I forgot to mention they fixed the black minimap in replay problem!
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
June 04 2010 10:09 GMT
#511
hmmm, how come nobody is in diamond league ?
www.root-gaming.com
shawabawa
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom417 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-04 10:15:08
June 04 2010 10:14 GMT
#512
On June 04 2010 18:06 crimsn wrote:
omg wow now broodlords are terrible man they are fucking retarded why even go hive tech

I really hope that's a joke.

That's like the smallest nerf imaginable to broodlords considering most of their DPS comes from broodlings anyway, which have separate upgrades.
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
June 04 2010 10:22 GMT
#513
My...beautiful tanks...
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Just kidding, good patch overall poking at the mech issue.
I personally play both Toss and Terran right now so it's both good and bad in my biased eyes.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
June 04 2010 10:23 GMT
#514
Finally the T nurf!!

is the reaper buff is really needed? I do wonder though how a 6 rax reaper rush with speed is going to play out :-/
FlashDave.999 aka Star
lolastic
Profile Joined June 2010
23 Posts
June 04 2010 10:28 GMT
#515
On June 04 2010 19:23 aka_star wrote:
Finally the T nurf!!

is the reaper buff is really needed? I do wonder though how a 6 rax reaper rush with speed is going to play out :-/

rofl people are clueless
Artifex
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Belgium189 Posts
June 04 2010 10:37 GMT
#516
Why didn't they change the overlord speed upgrade back to 50/50 then? I hate this lack of consistency...

Siege tank damage nerf is always good of course :p
Fear. Fear that the zerg are expanding all over the map and there's nothing you can do. The Swarm. Your doom. Now is the time to panic. The terran and protoss are trying to survive. The Zerg are trying to obliterate them. - Stane
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
June 04 2010 10:43 GMT
#517
The tank nerf is really only effecting splashed units. It'll still kill most targets in either 1 or 3 hits.
With the smart casting non overkill of tanks in this game, it's totally understandable.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
June 04 2010 10:53 GMT
#518
On June 04 2010 18:20 MorroW wrote:
i think they should change the tank to 40+20 vs armored instead of 60 or 50 pure dmg, pure dmg will always own the shit out of ling and hydra before they reach and roach will always have too little dmg to stop the terran army
hellions are there to stop the light units but blizzard isnt realizing that tanks do their job 10 times better

i think it was uncalled for to nerf to hellion dmg as it attacks so slowly, same with the broodlord dmg. also dont agree with how they act on the tank as i explained previously but im glad they r aware of the problem just dont know how to deal with it

oh and forgot about the reapers, love that change, totally fair. ive almost never upgraded that just because its too costly to fit in very early game. might get used now when reaper rushing i dont know


One of the reasons they nerfed the tank I think is to make the ultra stronger against mech. With 40+20 = 60 dmg against ultras, they still suck bad ass. Ultras combined with frenzy should at least now in theory be good against mech.
abrasion
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia722 Posts
June 04 2010 11:05 GMT
#519
On June 04 2010 10:50 iEchoic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 10:45 PanN wrote:
On June 04 2010 10:41 TeWy wrote:
Zergs are winning almost every single tournament since day 1 but just because some noobs complained about terran mech, it still got nerfed, what a fuking joke.


Yeah just a bunch of noobs complained, it wasn't a list of good players or anything ..oh wait...


When it comes to Zerg it doesn't matter because the entire Zerg playerbase is as whiny as a bunch of children. They've whined since day 1 of the beta about EVERYTHING.

What is it that attracts these people to Zerg?



I dunno, I've seen some of the Zerg players points and they do have some valid ones (I'm Toss)
Their race really is /boring/ they have zerglings, hydras and roaches as their meat and potatoes units, the other 2 races seem to have some more variety at the low end.
Also the recent roach nerf is bullshit, 2 food for the roach - ok cool if that's the case make it strong again - put the high health regen or armour back.
It must be very difficult to balance Zerg because of just how different they are as a race overall.
derpmods
CookieJarPirate
Profile Joined March 2010
United States61 Posts
June 04 2010 11:07 GMT
#520
Cheers blizzard. You did something I actually approve of. Now how bout those chat channels?
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