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United States12238 Posts
On May 30 2010 10:50 Captain Peabody wrote:
(6): Blizzcon tickets being raised, and paid DirectTV feed.
I'm not sure if this belongs in here. Putting on Blizzcon is profitable for the company, since it is basically a great deal of advertising that also makes them money. However, it still costs them, and especially the development team, a great deal of time and money to put on, and so to justify it, they basically have to make a fairly large profit off of it.
Blizzard loses money on Blizzcon every year, that's why prices were raised. They'll probably lose money from it this year too. It's probably a drop in the bucket compared to their overall expenses and more importantly their overall revenue, but a loss is a loss.
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will some post this on + Show Spoiler +/v/ or /b/ for instant lulz
seriously how did this came to be?? money Money money?? GAD DAMIT
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From a shareholder perspective, they're doing a damn fine job.
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MrHoon
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On May 30 2010 11:26 aimaimaim wrote:will some post this on + Show Spoiler +/v/ or /b/ for instant lulz please seriously how did this came to be?? money Money money?? GAD DAMIT
I can assure you /v/ has a daily thread to bash on Blizzard/Cocktik/Activision
On May 30 2010 11:20 zalcion wrote:
urgh. that was a hard read.
also dont understand why Kotick keeps doing PR when he's horrible and the entire gaming community already hates him.
at least we still have valve
Seriously, Gabe is fucking mother teresa compared to the 'human being' named Cocktik
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Captain Peabody basically said it all. A lot of this is just Activision bashing and very little of it works against Blizzard in any way.
I think the most important point is that Blizzard keep acting like paid services in WoW are somehow greedy. Apparently people don't realize that the community REQUESTED a paid server transfer feature in WoW. I'm not even kidding either. Back when I played WoW, I saw threads full of people saying flat out that they would be willing to pay money for a server transfer feature. It wasn't even Blizzard coming to the fans, it was the other way around. Pretty much all of the paid features in WoW existed due to community demand, so I really don't see why it's greedy when a company gives customers something it explicitly asks for.
Second of all is that a lot of people assume that Blizzard raised BlizzCon prices out of pure greed, yet a lot of you don't realize that not only is BlizzCon expensive, but Blizzard actually LOSES money after each BlizzCon.
http://www.worldofraids.com/topic/14011-austin-game-developers-conference-the-universe-behind-world-of-warcraft/
Employees have to pay for BlizzCon tickets like anyone else, but even with that (and other ticket sales) BlizzCon still results in a substantial monetary loss for the company.
Conventions aren't cheap people. E3 was even under threats of disappearing forever purely because it was racking up so much expense for the companies involved. While I understand people want companies to be more generous, they still have to make money you know. I understand all the Activision hate, but even with Bnet's problems, I just find threads like this downright dishonest when they attempt to paint Blizzard as a bloodthirsty villain, especially when it's admitted that the research isn't even trying to be unbiased, or the fact that it shows lack of knowledge over what the merger was even like in the first place.
http://www.wow.com/2009/04/12/activision-blizzard-is-not-blizzard/
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On May 30 2010 11:27 bendez wrote:
From a shareholder perspective, they're doing a damn fine job.
Losing the developers of the fastest-selling game ever? (And best selling of the year, I think)
I think Kotik is rather incompetent.
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On May 30 2010 11:27 bendez wrote:
From a shareholder perspective, they're doing a damn fine job.
Too bad we are not fucking shareholders and we actually want to PLAY THE GAME and build a COMMUNITY around it. If PROFIT is first and foremost in the minds of the people that are overseeing Blizzard, then trust me when I say that they will do everything and anything to suck every last penny from their audience. Kotick decides the direction of Battle.net 2.0 and Starcraft 2. Kotick is the one who will have the last say. And Kotick is a selfish, greedy individual that is not beyond charging players for everything.
And most importantly, Kotick DOES NOT CARE ABOUT NOR DOES HE RESPECT THE PLAYERS AND THE PLAYERS' WISHES. THIS CAN ONLY ADVERSELY AFFECT STARCRAFT 2 AND ITS FUTURE AS A GAME AND AN ESPORT.
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MrHoon
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It's amazing how over an year Activision turns into the most hated publisher and suddenly EA turns into the 'okay not bad' publisher lol
I remember how everyone loved to bash on EA because they were 'ruining the game industry'
fucking ubisoft and activision
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Is there any chance that all of this was completely taken out of context and that Kotick actually loves puppies and has all of our ( the players' and buyers' ) best interest in mind?
Didn't think so  Great read, thanks for giving us such an important update!
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On May 30 2010 11:27 bendez wrote:
From a shareholder perspective, they're doing a damn fine job.
From a shareholder perspective, SC2 has sofar made a grand total of zero dollars.
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My fellow gamers, it is time to act. We must accept that sadly our beloved studio has been slain and that an imposter is all that remains.
Please do your part.
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Soooo Blizz sold out? We should boycott SC2?
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Enlightening post, albeit a somber one.
I didn't expect ActivisionBlizzard to be able handle E-Sports, but now I don't want them anywhere near it.
Kespa is definitely the lesser of two evils here, hopefully they find a way to continue SC1 after August... SC2 is no where near ready for E-Sports.
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We need to Boycott SC2. Make day one release sales so low they KNOW that the community has power.
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I wont boycott games .. i will pirate them and play them .. thank God for isohunt and piratebay ..
fuck these companies .. power to the poeple who will work on pirating these games :D :D :D
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On May 30 2010 11:53 Half wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2010 11:27 bendez wrote:
From a shareholder perspective, they're doing a damn fine job. From a shareholder perspective, SC2 has sofar made a grand total of zero dollars.
pre-orders bro
~~> read the other great thread about how pre-ordering ruins games too
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On May 30 2010 12:06 aimaimaim wrote:
I wont boycott games .. i will pirate them and play them .. thank God for isohunt and piratebay ..
fuck these companies .. power to the poeple who will work on pirating these games :D :D :D
That is a TERRIBLE excuse to pirate a game.
If you wish to boycott, simply don't buy their products.
There is absolutely NO good reason to pirate a game.
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very interesting read, so sad what happend to blizzard
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On May 30 2010 11:33 Spawkuring wrote:I think the most important point is that Blizzard keep acting like paid services in WoW are somehow greedy. Apparently people don't realize that the community REQUESTED a paid server transfer feature in WoW. I'm not even kidding either. Back when I played WoW, I saw threads full of people saying flat out that they would be willing to pay money for a server transfer feature. It wasn't even Blizzard coming to the fans, it was the other way around. Pretty much all of the paid features in WoW existed due to community demand, so I really don't see why it's greedy when a company gives customers something it explicitly asks for.
Because people wanted a feature that is pretty simple and could be done by automatically migrating a few database-entries/entities from one system to another or cause a few’d even pay money for it, doesn't mean that the community "requested" it and wanted... no rather they begged to pay for it ... I'm not sure what the numbers of profit is that Blizzard rakes in monthly with WoW, but having paid for the game, add-ons and paying a monthly subscription, one could expect that something like this would be a case of fair deal... and even if they make it a paid feature, something like 15-25$ for an employee to start a script is ridiculous...
Another aspect to consider, is that in this case (the "virtual world" of World of WarCraft) Blizzard Entertainment is the only one that can provide such a service on everything it entails and it is a slippery slope from a market economy perspective, while in the real world there is a freely competing market.
[b]Second of all is that a lot of people assume that Blizzard raised BlizzCon prices out of pure greed, yet a lot of you don't realize that not only is BlizzCon expensive, but Blizzard actually LOSES money after each BlizzCon. http://www.worldofraids.com/topic/14011-austin-game-developers-conference-the-universe-behind-world-of-warcraft/Show nested quote +
Employees have to pay for BlizzCon tickets like anyone else, but even with that (and other ticket sales) BlizzCon still results in a substantial monetary loss for the company.
Conventions aren't cheap people. E3 was even under threats of disappearing forever purely because it was racking up so much expense for the companies involved. While I understand people want companies to be more generous, they still have to make money you know. I understand all the Activision hate, but even with Bnet's problems, I just find threads like this downright dishonest when they attempt to paint Blizzard as a bloodthirsty villain, especially when it's admitted that the research isn't even trying to be unbiased, or the fact that it shows lack of knowledge over what the merger was even like in the first place.
The convention is a promotional event, for Blizzard to show, advertise and build hype towards their products. The gains of such events are invaluable and immeasurable. Claiming they are operating at a loss is like claiming companies are stupid cause they pay advertising space in public transportation, seemingly they're losing money and there is no "direct benefit" one can perceive. That they’re expecting their own employees to pay for tickets would only serve to prove even more that they’re greedy xD
What “lack of knowledge” did I exactly show regarding the merger though?
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United States1719 Posts
WOW FRONT PAGE THIS IMMEDIATELY!
great read, you must have put ALOT of time into this post! It was very enlightening, thank you
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