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zimz
United States510 Posts
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zimz
United States510 Posts
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kajeus
United States679 Posts
On May 30 2010 14:24 ThunderChunky wrote: This is most certainly not the same Blizzard that made Brood War. Come on, now. Their corporate heads are not the same, that's for sure. But the soul of the old Blizzard is still there in the design of the game itself. Try to keep an intelligent, nuanced view of this and make sure you're hating the right people. | ||
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Ianuus
Australia349 Posts
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bias-
United States410 Posts
On May 30 2010 14:30 kajeus wrote: Come on, now. Their corporate heads are not the same, that's for sure. But the soul of the old Blizzard is still there in the design of the game itself. Try to keep an intelligent, nuanced view of this and make sure you're hating the right people. Look, this game is great. BW. SC II has flaws, yes. But it's community, what made BW what it is, is about to be smashed in all likelihood. I, for one, do not see myself ever participating in SCII or B.net 2 related products because well, Blizzard isn't Blizzard. They're after our pockets, not our hearts. They think we're all too stupid and uninformed about the corrupt and money-grubbing practices they partake in. They think this will all go unnoticed while they sit atop an ever-growing mound of cash. What can I say? I'm done. Throw away 10 years-worth of the community that made SCII as profitable as it's probably going to be? I see this is short-sighted... | ||
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Plethora
United States206 Posts
On May 30 2010 12:43 Spawkuring wrote: Both of your counter-arguments basically amount to "they charged money for it, how ridiculous." Like it or not, a lot of what goes into pricing is determined by how much customers are willing to pay. If a company sells an OPTIONAL service, and that service turns out to be a massive success, then there is nothing wrong with charging money for it (and keep in mind Blizzard has offered plenty of free transfers in WoW). Prices in many ways are set to what a customer wants to pay, not just to make up for the expenses of making the product. I don't think this is the real heart of the issue with all the anger towards Activision/Blizzard to be perfectly honest. At the very least it isn't for me. My anger and my rage are pure and simple the stripping of features that have been industry standard for years due to a misguided notion that the way all those games that made tons of money in the past did things was bad. That, and the insistence that they have to have control over every single aspect of SC2. LAN is the biggest culprit, but is certainly not the only one. Lack of cross-region play, lack of chat, lack of community tools of all sorts all point to a company who doesn't care one bit about an already existing and vibrant community that barely even needs a reason to love them. And what really kinda bugs me is that not buying sc2 will be hard, because the game itself is very very good. I almost think it would be better if it was bad because then they really would take a hit... but this way the only people who get screwed are the very same people who bought 3 or 4 or 5 copies of BW and kept SC1 alive for almost 12 years now. | ||
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
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imPERSONater
United States1324 Posts
Video games are an option and I am beginning to think Blizzard is going to quickly find people will only take so much. | ||
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
Most of the 20 years, that I have provided for growth at Activision, we were content to make products that are attractive to the 16-35 year old guy who has gotten no date for Saturday night. He is not a man, but a god. Clearly, he has driven innovation and growth in the video game industry, through is intelligence, leadership, and foresight. Only from his perch at the pinnacle of industry (and quite possibly humanity itself) has he been able to accomplish these things. Why would anyone question all he has done for us? While we have been clicking rapidly, in our ignorant bliss, this man has voluntarily sacrificed his every waking moment (which he could have spent playing any game he desires) to instead reach out to those titans of our time, such as Steve Jobs, and apply those principles to build a vibrant industry around our wretched non-social existence. Verily, this man is responsible for most of our fond childhood memories. He should be worshiped, not blasphemed. | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
welcome to the world of video game news. this guy's been being a douche since before it was acti/blizzard. | ||
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ThunderChunky
United States24 Posts
On May 30 2010 14:30 kajeus wrote: Come on, now. Their corporate heads are not the same, that's for sure. But the soul of the old Blizzard is still there in the design of the game itself. Try to keep an intelligent, nuanced view of this and make sure you're hating the right people. I don't hate any people in particular. My anger is directed at the cynical money grabbing approach that is being taken with SC2. This isn't the Blizzard that existed 10 years ago...we are dealing with Infested Blizzard now. | ||
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
On May 30 2010 15:00 ThunderChunky wrote: I don't hate any people in particular. My anger is directed at the cynical money grabbing approach that is being taken with SC2. This isn't the Blizzard that existed 10 years ago...we are dealing with Infested Blizzard now. Lol this should be coined. I try to be optimistic, but I am constantly re-adjusting my expectations as a whole. I really wonder if I will be saying the same thing when Diablo 3 comes around. | ||
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Warpzit
Denmark28 Posts
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burnout_128
United States12 Posts
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
On May 30 2010 15:15 Warpzit wrote: This is just such a disgusting read. I absolutely HATE Robert A. Kotick and I'll never want to get near Activision as an employee. Same rules apply to Activision as with EA now, never buy any of their titles without proper investigating if I really need that game. Same here. It's making me skeptical of Starcraft II as an overall product. The gameplay is excellent but I'm not sure about the rest of the package and what may have been cut out to provide as potential microtransaction. WoW has had me worried since the merger and the increase in microtransactional activity; if 'paid name changes' or the like are ever brought to Starcraft 2, I'm done with Blizzard until they shape up. That of course, is potential and hypothetical, I'm not sure how it will turn out as of now. Down with Activision and EA. | ||
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red_b
United States1267 Posts
Sitting through 4 years of business school, I can tell you these people can certainly act like the devils they are made out to be. Im with the camp that will never pay a monthly fee to play a game. I paid for the game, now act like its 2010 and give me a decent online experience. I feel like I got a better deal from the playstation's 2 ridiculously rag tag system than Im getting from battle.net 2.0. | ||
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Kashmir
New Zealand178 Posts
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
On May 30 2010 14:46 Robinsa wrote: Didnt we all know that Blizzards passion has turned from the games into the money? I think its been pretty obvious ever since they said they would launch sc2 in 3 games, with no lan etc etc. Possibly even since they started to charge for extra stuff in wow. bill roper saw where it was going 1994-2003 he wouldnt have taken this bullshit | ||
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Frah
Canada96 Posts
Makes me feel better that I haven't bought/played an Activision product in longer than I can remember. | ||
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Zamkis
Canada114 Posts
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