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zimz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States510 Posts
May 30 2010 05:26 GMT
#281
activision is a horrible company. all the devs of COD left because avctivision insist on them making a new COD every two months.
zimz
zimz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States510 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 05:28:50
May 30 2010 05:28 GMT
#282
the facebook idea is incase the game sucks. they hope people go to bnet2.0 to use facebook and be "hyper teenager facebook scene" on bnet 2.0 if they do nothing else on it..
zimz
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
May 30 2010 05:30 GMT
#283
On May 30 2010 14:24 ThunderChunky wrote:
This is most certainly not the same Blizzard that made Brood War.

Come on, now. Their corporate heads are not the same, that's for sure. But the soul of the old Blizzard is still there in the design of the game itself.

Try to keep an intelligent, nuanced view of this and make sure you're hating the right people.
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
Ianuus
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia349 Posts
May 30 2010 05:31 GMT
#284
Hmm, I dunno, SCII seems to be pretty fun to me. The day I boycott Activision is the day they stop publishing fun games.
bias-
Profile Joined October 2004
United States410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 05:41:24
May 30 2010 05:40 GMT
#285
On May 30 2010 14:30 kajeus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 14:24 ThunderChunky wrote:
This is most certainly not the same Blizzard that made Brood War.

Come on, now. Their corporate heads are not the same, that's for sure. But the soul of the old Blizzard is still there in the design of the game itself.

Try to keep an intelligent, nuanced view of this and make sure you're hating the right people.


Look, this game is great. BW. SC II has flaws, yes.

But it's community, what made BW what it is, is about to be smashed in all likelihood. I, for one, do not see myself ever participating in SCII or B.net 2 related products because well, Blizzard isn't Blizzard. They're after our pockets, not our hearts. They think we're all too stupid and uninformed about the corrupt and money-grubbing practices they partake in. They think this will all go unnoticed while they sit atop an ever-growing mound of cash. What can I say? I'm done.

Throw away 10 years-worth of the community that made SCII as profitable as it's probably going to be? I see this is short-sighted...
For serious minds, a bias recognized is a bias sterilized.
Plethora
Profile Joined July 2007
United States206 Posts
May 30 2010 05:42 GMT
#286
On May 30 2010 12:43 Spawkuring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 12:30 D3xter wrote:

Because people wanted a feature that is pretty simple and could be done by automatically migrating a few database-entries/entities from one system to another or cause a few’d even pay money for it, doesn't mean that the community "requested" it and wanted... no rather they begged to pay for it ... I'm not sure what the numbers of profit is that Blizzard rakes in monthly with WoW, but having paid for the game, add-ons and paying a monthly subscription, one could expect that something like this would be a case of fair deal... and even if they make it a paid feature, something like 15-25$ for an employee to start a script is ridiculous...

Another aspect to consider, is that in this case (the "virtual world" of World of WarCraft) Blizzard Entertainment is the only one that can provide such a service on everything it entails and it is a slippery slope from a market economy perspective, while in the real world there is a freely competing market.

The convention is a promotional event, for Blizzard to show, advertise and build hype towards their products. The gains of such events are invaluable and immeasurable. Claiming they are operating at a loss is like claiming companies are stupid cause they pay advertising space in public transportation, cause they're losing money and there is no "direct benefit" one can perceive. That they’re expecting their own employees to pay for tickets would only serve to prove even more that they’re greedy xD

What “lack of knowledge” did I exactly show regarding the merger though?


Both of your counter-arguments basically amount to "they charged money for it, how ridiculous."

Like it or not, a lot of what goes into pricing is determined by how much customers are willing to pay. If a company sells an OPTIONAL service, and that service turns out to be a massive success, then there is nothing wrong with charging money for it (and keep in mind Blizzard has offered plenty of free transfers in WoW). Prices in many ways are set to what a customer wants to pay, not just to make up for the expenses of making the product.


I don't think this is the real heart of the issue with all the anger towards Activision/Blizzard to be perfectly honest. At the very least it isn't for me.

My anger and my rage are pure and simple the stripping of features that have been industry standard for years due to a misguided notion that the way all those games that made tons of money in the past did things was bad. That, and the insistence that they have to have control over every single aspect of SC2. LAN is the biggest culprit, but is certainly not the only one. Lack of cross-region play, lack of chat, lack of community tools of all sorts all point to a company who doesn't care one bit about an already existing and vibrant community that barely even needs a reason to love them.

And what really kinda bugs me is that not buying sc2 will be hard, because the game itself is very very good. I almost think it would be better if it was bad because then they really would take a hit... but this way the only people who get screwed are the very same people who bought 3 or 4 or 5 copies of BW and kept SC1 alive for almost 12 years now.
... Still like Brood War better... lol
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
May 30 2010 05:46 GMT
#287
Didnt we all know that Blizzards passion has turned from the games into the money? I think its been pretty obvious ever since they said they would launch sc2 in 3 games, with no lan etc etc. Possibly even since they started to charge for extra stuff in wow.
4649!!
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
May 30 2010 05:49 GMT
#288
I feel like the video game executives are starting to forget that buying games are a choice. Sure I purchased WC3 after WC2 because I liked the franchise, but I am starting to get pushed a little too far on SCII. It looks as though all games are moving towards the monthly subscription because they can continue to make money after the initial purchase, but I refuse to buy a game that requires that same monthly fee to play or the purchasing of maps for competitive play. I am not sure if there are many like me, but I can find other things to do with my time that are not as taxing on my college depleted wallet.

Video games are an option and I am beginning to think Blizzard is going to quickly find people will only take so much.
Fan of: IdrA, Sen, Stephano, Snute, Axlav, Hero
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
May 30 2010 05:51 GMT
#289
Most of the 20 years, that I have provided for growth at Activision, we were content to make products that are attractive to the 16-35 year old guy who has gotten no date for Saturday night.


He is not a man, but a god. Clearly, he has driven innovation and growth in the video game industry, through is intelligence, leadership, and foresight. Only from his perch at the pinnacle of industry (and quite possibly humanity itself) has he been able to accomplish these things.

Why would anyone question all he has done for us? While we have been clicking rapidly, in our ignorant bliss, this man has voluntarily sacrificed his every waking moment (which he could have spent playing any game he desires) to instead reach out to those titans of our time, such as Steve Jobs, and apply those principles to build a vibrant industry around our wretched non-social existence.

Verily, this man is responsible for most of our fond childhood memories. He should be worshiped, not blasphemed.
Do you really want chat rooms?
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5660 Posts
May 30 2010 05:53 GMT
#290
are you guys just now realizing that bobby kotick is a souless whore of a human being?

welcome to the world of video game news. this guy's been being a douche since before it was acti/blizzard.
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ThunderChunky
Profile Joined May 2010
United States24 Posts
May 30 2010 06:00 GMT
#291
On May 30 2010 14:30 kajeus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 14:24 ThunderChunky wrote:
This is most certainly not the same Blizzard that made Brood War.

Come on, now. Their corporate heads are not the same, that's for sure. But the soul of the old Blizzard is still there in the design of the game itself.

Try to keep an intelligent, nuanced view of this and make sure you're hating the right people.


I don't hate any people in particular. My anger is directed at the cynical money grabbing approach that is being taken with SC2. This isn't the Blizzard that existed 10 years ago...we are dealing with Infested Blizzard now.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
May 30 2010 06:08 GMT
#292
On May 30 2010 15:00 ThunderChunky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 14:30 kajeus wrote:
On May 30 2010 14:24 ThunderChunky wrote:
This is most certainly not the same Blizzard that made Brood War.

Come on, now. Their corporate heads are not the same, that's for sure. But the soul of the old Blizzard is still there in the design of the game itself.

Try to keep an intelligent, nuanced view of this and make sure you're hating the right people.


I don't hate any people in particular. My anger is directed at the cynical money grabbing approach that is being taken with SC2. This isn't the Blizzard that existed 10 years ago...we are dealing with Infested Blizzard now.


Lol this should be coined.

I try to be optimistic, but I am constantly re-adjusting my expectations as a whole. I really wonder if I will be saying the same thing when Diablo 3 comes around.
With no power comes no responsibility?
Warpzit
Profile Joined June 2008
Denmark28 Posts
May 30 2010 06:15 GMT
#293
This is just such a disgusting read. I absolutely HATE Robert A. Kotick and I'll never want to get near Activision as an employee. Same rules apply to Activision as with EA now, never buy any of their titles without proper investigating if I really need that game.
burnout_128
Profile Joined March 2010
United States12 Posts
May 30 2010 06:57 GMT
#294
This write-up is amazing. I remember to hate Activision was building up over the years from gamers. They drove call of duty into the ground so quick with modern warfare 2. There is no doubt that the Blizzard we use to know is slowly dying. I'm going to feel dirty paying for SC2... 3 times.
Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
May 30 2010 07:15 GMT
#295
On May 30 2010 15:15 Warpzit wrote:
This is just such a disgusting read. I absolutely HATE Robert A. Kotick and I'll never want to get near Activision as an employee. Same rules apply to Activision as with EA now, never buy any of their titles without proper investigating if I really need that game.

Same here. It's making me skeptical of Starcraft II as an overall product. The gameplay is excellent but I'm not sure about the rest of the package and what may have been cut out to provide as potential microtransaction.

WoW has had me worried since the merger and the increase in microtransactional activity; if 'paid name changes' or the like are ever brought to Starcraft 2, I'm done with Blizzard until they shape up. That of course, is potential and hypothetical, I'm not sure how it will turn out as of now.

Down with Activision and EA.
Hark!
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
May 30 2010 07:31 GMT
#296
Wow glad I took the time to finally read this thread.

Sitting through 4 years of business school, I can tell you these people can certainly act like the devils they are made out to be.

Im with the camp that will never pay a monthly fee to play a game. I paid for the game, now act like its 2010 and give me a decent online experience. I feel like I got a better deal from the playstation's 2 ridiculously rag tag system than Im getting from battle.net 2.0.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
Kashmir
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand178 Posts
May 30 2010 07:36 GMT
#297
I think SC2 is a fantastic game but I loathe the changes Blizzard made around it. I decided to cancel my order instead. No point paying for something I won't fully enjoy.
Nobody is perfect. I am nobody. Therefore, I am perfect.
PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
May 30 2010 07:42 GMT
#298
On May 30 2010 14:46 Robinsa wrote:
Didnt we all know that Blizzards passion has turned from the games into the money? I think its been pretty obvious ever since they said they would launch sc2 in 3 games, with no lan etc etc. Possibly even since they started to charge for extra stuff in wow.

bill roper saw where it was going
1994-2003
he wouldnt have taken this bullshit
Once again back is the incredible!
Frah
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada96 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 07:46:30
May 30 2010 07:44 GMT
#299
I remember reading about these things as they happened, having the whole picture laid in front of you though is just like "wow, that seriously happened?"
Makes me feel better that I haven't bought/played an Activision product in longer than I can remember.
"Dudes yo" -Surfer4Life
Zamkis
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada114 Posts
May 30 2010 07:52 GMT
#300
Somehow, this makes the future of our dear Blizzard games very unattractive.
Destruction is a work of an afternoon, Creation is a work of a lifetime.
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