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laggikoN
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden213 Posts
May 31 2010 13:36 GMT
#1621
Aaaaand the preorder is cancled -.-
H2O Xplicit
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)56 Posts
May 31 2010 13:38 GMT
#1622
wow this somehow seems so similar to that of the game world of warcraft no cross realm play ahem
One mans defeat is another mans victory!
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
May 31 2010 13:38 GMT
#1623
We just reached 7000 posters in the "94 percentile disapproval" poll.

Keep voting for that one (at the first post of this thread) and this one


Poll: Would you give SC2 a one star amazon rating to protest BNET?

Yes (6508)
 
83%

No (1331)
 
17%

7839 total votes

Your vote: Would you give SC2 a one star amazon rating to protest BNET?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
InFi.asc
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany518 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 13:49:39
May 31 2010 13:43 GMT
#1624
What a lot of players don't read in the rage is the part where Frank Pearce is talking about Clan chat and Groups chat. That is definitely being worked on. If you check back to our last Twitter dev chat, there was the same question ( http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23767157319&sid=3000 ):

"We do have plans for chat channels. Specifically, we want to organize chat channels around users' interests so you know what types of conversations you are going to get into when you join a channel. This feature is not something that will be in for beta. Currently we plan to do this feature in a patch after the game launches. "


http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170778216&postId=251682935327#251682935327

this makes me so sad because it shows that the Blizzard CMs really think it's just a misunderstanding and think the people are randomly raging.

edit for clarity (?)
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Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 13:57:36
May 31 2010 13:44 GMT
#1625
On May 31 2010 22:43 InFi.asc wrote:
Show nested quote +
What a lot of players don't read in the rage is the part where Frank Pearce is talking about Clan chat and Groups chat. That is definitely being worked on. If you check back to our last Twitter dev chat, there was the same question ( http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23767157319&sid=3000 ):

"We do have plans for chat channels. Specifically, we want to organize chat channels around users' interests so you know what types of conversations you are going to get into when you join a channel. This feature is not something that will be in for beta. Currently we plan to do this feature in a patch after the game launches. "


http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170778216&postId=251682935327#251682935327

this makes me so sad because it shows that they really think it's just misunderstanding and are randomly raging.




Theve said that at some point in the future they might have group chat but Group chat is not chat channels.


Also chat channels arnt the only complaint

- Cross region play
- No LAN, even after Battle.net validation
- League system
- Clan system
- Bnet 2.0 in general


http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
InFi.asc
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany518 Posts
May 31 2010 13:48 GMT
#1626
I hope that wasn't directed at me because I wasn't supporting Blizzard with that comment but showing how they are not understanding the community at all and are downplaying this uproar.

"They" in this case was Blizzard.
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[HB]Mess
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark37 Posts
May 31 2010 13:50 GMT
#1627
Would be very interesting if it was possible to see how many had canceled there preorder already. Guess those figures wont be public available though.
Shit, I woke up...
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1078 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 13:57:36
May 31 2010 13:51 GMT
#1628
What are the other gaming sites' reactions toward b.net 2.0?

Maybe if other sites also report the issues then Blizzard will look at the problems, because they may think that TL might be biased + not mainstream enough.
BW forever!
InFi.asc
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany518 Posts
May 31 2010 13:55 GMT
#1629
[image loading]

Hope this wasn't posted yet
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yndi
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany18 Posts
May 31 2010 13:57 GMT
#1630
Preorder canceled.

I feel bad for the people behind the actual sc2 game though.
It really is a good game and they deserve the credit for that, but the motives behind the new b.net are just too obvious as of now.

Sad Panda is sad.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
May 31 2010 13:58 GMT
#1631
InFi.asc i love that one
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
einoj
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway7 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 14:10:41
May 31 2010 14:03 GMT
#1632
On May 31 2010 15:00 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 14:57 fight_or_flight wrote:
On May 31 2010 14:32 Tangd357 wrote:
Blizzard makes everyone pay for a copy of Starcraft 2, and you can only have 1 account attached. That stops smurfing and whatnot. That's okay, I'm fine with that. Not only that, but if someone is abusive or is excessively spamming, it is a lot harder to simply make a new account and get away with it as the ability to report a player is there. Whether in-game or by email or whatever. The player only has one account.

Wait, so there is only one account per SC2 copy? So if you have brothers you will all have to use the same user name?

Can someone confirm?


Worse than that, since there is only 1 account, and only 1 ladder placement per account, you can't have different ladders for the different races like people have asked for since the beta started.

This means that if you are Diamond with Terran, and Silver with zerg, you pretty much have to either smurf your account so you can play with people your level on zerg, or get slaughtered whenever you want to play zerg in diamond. I'm sure Frank Pearce would advise to just buy 3 accounts so you can have different ladders.


Good then I will only have to buy 27 copies of the game. 1 for each race in each region, then one copy for each race in each region for the expansions.

EDIT:

Remember when the FPS community tried to boycott Activision for not including dedicated
servers in MW2?

Yeah that didn't work out so well..

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I doubt Activision-Blizzard will care much about a boycott of SC2
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
May 31 2010 14:07 GMT
#1633
On May 31 2010 22:38 H2O Xplicit wrote:
wow this somehow seems so similar to that of the game world of warcraft no cross realm play ahem

i believe WOW allows you to play on a different server, you just wont be able to bring your existing characters over unless you pay a fee.

for SC2, Husky said that there are 5 regions and to play on servers of a specific region, you need a CD with that region code. so if you want to play anywhere, you have to buy 5 copies of the game.
...from the land of imba
Qiin
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia102 Posts
May 31 2010 14:23 GMT
#1634
anyone know what the consensus is on the asian servers regarding the new bnet?
do they like it?
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Tangd357
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia6 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 14:47:52
May 31 2010 14:30 GMT
#1635
I would just like to make this statement as I planned to test it before but only got around to it a few minutes ago. I'm an Australian playing on the US servers if it makes a difference, however I believe it shouldn't (correct me if I'm wrong here).

If i recall correctly, the possibility of a "semi-LAN" would be possible in Starcraft 2. Given all players would have an account, they could log onto Battle.net and play as if they were next to each other. Now I would assume, because they all run off the same router, they should able to have no latency between eachother if they hosted a isolated game, correct? (As I said, correct me if this is not possible at all)

However, I played some custom game called "Hex" via "test map on galaxy editor (credit to Qancakes for production). No lag, whatsoever. I decided to myself, hey, this is a pretty cool 4 player game and I should try this out on B.net 2.0. I checked the custom game list - but I could not find it. I had to publish it in order to play. Didn't matter because the popularity was so low no-one joined. (This wasn't actually even thought about until I started typing this post. I find it funny that there is so many things wrong with B.Net 2.0 that when I go to talk about one issue and 3 others naturally flow out).

I started it up anyway without anybody (AI) and as I was playing on B.Net, I realised there was lag. I was playing with myself, on the "multiplayer experience" of B.Net, and I was lagging in a game by myself. This speaks volumes about the chances for a latency even close to LAN being incorporated into B.Net 2.0, in my opinion. Why should I need to connect through B.Net servers when I'm playing with either myself or someone on my network?

I know the relevance to chatrooms and crossrealm play is questionable, but I don't see any harm posting it here, as it seems to have become a collective thread on the..."state" of B.net 2.0.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 14:41:01
May 31 2010 14:39 GMT
#1636
On May 31 2010 23:03 einoj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 15:00 moopie wrote:
On May 31 2010 14:57 fight_or_flight wrote:
On May 31 2010 14:32 Tangd357 wrote:
Blizzard makes everyone pay for a copy of Starcraft 2, and you can only have 1 account attached. That stops smurfing and whatnot. That's okay, I'm fine with that. Not only that, but if someone is abusive or is excessively spamming, it is a lot harder to simply make a new account and get away with it as the ability to report a player is there. Whether in-game or by email or whatever. The player only has one account.

Wait, so there is only one account per SC2 copy? So if you have brothers you will all have to use the same user name?

Can someone confirm?


Worse than that, since there is only 1 account, and only 1 ladder placement per account, you can't have different ladders for the different races like people have asked for since the beta started.

This means that if you are Diamond with Terran, and Silver with zerg, you pretty much have to either smurf your account so you can play with people your level on zerg, or get slaughtered whenever you want to play zerg in diamond. I'm sure Frank Pearce would advise to just buy 3 accounts so you can have different ladders.


Good then I will only have to buy 27 copies of the game. 1 for each race in each region, then one copy for each race in each region for the expansions.

EDIT:

Remember when the FPS community tried to boycott Activision for not including dedicated
servers in MW2?

Yeah that didn't work out so well..

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I doubt Activision-Blizzard will care much about a boycott of SC2


Hmmm 833. Our poll is already at 7000 :p



For the record I think giving SC2 bad ratings on ALL the major game ranking sites would be far more effective than any boycott.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Tears.Of.The.Moon
Profile Joined September 2009
Slovenia715 Posts
May 31 2010 14:54 GMT
#1637
Just an idea, since we can't have open(public) chat chanels , what if there were division specific chat chanels, each division in each league would have it's own chat chanel, that only people in that division could join and participate. It would be nice to comunicate with the people in your division ( same skill, people you play against regulary), and it would make you fell even more part of that group division.

What do you think?
ヽ(´ー`)┌
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
May 31 2010 15:04 GMT
#1638
Blizzard (Activision) is really going for a risky strategy here.They are thinking if a WOW player can pay monthly fee for their game heck even if they can sell them a virtual donkey for a 25$ then why not they do this in SC2 too.

You want a new ums map? Well you have to pay for it but its kinda ok if the mapmakers is gonna get some $$ of it.

You wanna play with other regions? Well you need to buy the game 3x3 times if you plan to play all expansions which i think its ridiculos.

You want to change your account name ? Well for a small fee you can change your account name ( not making other accounts for this you need again another copy of the game)

You want to host a tournament? Well you need to pay a fee to Blizzard but i seriously doubt there will be any tournaments with the current path that SC2 is taking right now which is obviosily for the "cassual" gamer instead of the competetive scene that is BW/W3

And the horrible Ladder ( if you can call that a ladder ) system, no clan system and no Chat rooms which is the least of the worries right about now are

The no LAN option is because of piracy ( well i still think the game will be pirated even without LAN or maybe the hackers will invent a LAN client ) but mostly because of KESPA i think so Blizzard can be in total control of their product.


Blizzard is obviously doing this for their WOW maniacs who will spend $$ for every small thing that Blizzard is gonna serve them. But this is RTS and im not familar with the new RTS trend but i dont think there has been anything of this sort for an RTS game.

There is 2 paths that SC2 can take. The path of the great finance succses in the short term and failing after the last expansion..... or the path of total failure. If i have to bet money i think they will fail horribly because they are seriously underestimating the RTS community but only time will tell the release is so close so lets see what happens.

As for me im not planing to buy the game no matter what happens, I dont feel the game is good enough to entertain me for long periods of time and only thing im interested is the single player campaign but i dont think thats enough to cough up ~200$ for their trilogy
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
May 31 2010 15:18 GMT
#1639
There are certainly issues that mapmakers have with the current approach Blizzard is taking in terms of the terminology of the EULA and some of the wording of their statements regarding the marketplace. But at the end of the day, it's just the App Store for Custom Maps. And really, seeing the threads every day pop up that truly blow our collective minds with what people are doing with these maps, allowing people a way to sell those maps is a great idea. I'd love to support mapmakers for their continued efforts. Blizzard taking a slice of the pie for creating the engine and the method of distribution is a sad reality. The amount they take however is a point of contention for mapmakers I'm sure and it's totally cool for them to talk about.

However, people whining that Blizzard is suddenly going to institute mandatory microtransactions for SC2 are completely talking out of their asses. In no way is that what they did with WoW, and in no way is that what they've said they're going to do with SC2. It would be completely foolhardy for Blizzard to charge for new ladder maps when that would arbitrarily segement the population and cause a massive decrease in players utilizing the service. They see no realized gain from that. Stop trying to create fake dramas. It's not going to happen. Period. I'm sure they'll sell some UMS maps and perhaps they'll sell some melee maps for people to play on the side, but any ladder map will be free forever and always.

I also think along with a lot of other people that this populist outrage is getting out of hand. It's perfectly cool to be upset with the delivered or undelivered features of SC2, but let's not get out of hand. Every thread on TL these days is whining about Blizzard and BNet 2.0. There ARE cool things about BNet 2.0. Yes there are things missing. But the issue is that people are wishing death on Blizzard executives and threatening to boycott the game and being completely irrational, but if Blizzard came out today and said "psyche, just kidding guys, that stuff will all be in for release" those very same people would turn right back around to start slupring all over them.

People in this day and age are completely irrational. If you want chat channels or cross-realm (we all do) then make a thread and talk about why you want chat channels or cross-realm. Let me tell you something, Blizzard is not going to come to these forums, look at the History of Activision-Blizzard thread and say "oh god, they're on to us guys, we better release the chat channels and cross-realm, but it was a nice ruse while it lasted." If you really want to change something just keep on topic. If you just want to rant about Activision and greed, you're not helping anyone with your tantrums.
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Danka
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Peru1018 Posts
May 31 2010 15:25 GMT
#1640
i just spent the morning reading all the threads about activision, bnet 2.0 and I feel heartbroken. I have seriously been broken. I just cancelled my pre-order. Im serious. I will NOT be getting sc2 until something is fixed. I have a life, and dignity, I can wait for this Activision-Blizzard company to act like they care at ALL about their customers and not just getting my money. If they dont then im not interested.
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