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fantomex
Profile Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
June 04 2010 21:31 GMT
#2121
On June 04 2010 22:50 aimaimaim wrote:
why are you talking about map hacking??

Are you making a joke?
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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
June 05 2010 00:54 GMT
#2122
On June 05 2010 06:31 fantomex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 22:50 aimaimaim wrote:
why are you talking about map hacking??

Are you making a joke?



what does talking about maphack deal with the situation at hand?
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
klaw224
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines8 Posts
June 05 2010 02:48 GMT
#2123
On June 05 2010 06:31 fantomex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 22:50 aimaimaim wrote:
why are you talking about map hacking??

Are you making a joke?



Dude lets say the variable for vision for the whole map is X.

hackers found out it was X so they made a hack so that X will be true (meaning you will have vision of the whole map.)

so what blizzard does to fix this is they try to hide that variable deep in the code and change it from X to something like "12984091284hfsd" so they wont know it stands for the vision for the whole map.

basically thats it about maphacking.

what we're talking about right now are chat rooms. You cant hack in a chat room unless someone makes his own battle.net with xrealm support and chatrooms.

You should watch Husky's video at the first post. It really sums it up pretty well.



History is written by the victor
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 03:10:34
June 05 2010 03:10 GMT
#2124
On June 05 2010 11:48 klaw224 wrote:

what we're talking about right now are chat rooms. You cant hack in a chat room unless someone makes his own battle.net with xrealm support and chatrooms.



Chat rooms could be pretty easy to hack. Just mod the b-net UI with a chat site. :D.
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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
June 05 2010 03:14 GMT
#2125
On June 05 2010 12:10 Half wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 11:48 klaw224 wrote:

what we're talking about right now are chat rooms. You cant hack in a chat room unless someone makes his own battle.net with xrealm support and chatrooms.



Chat rooms could be pretty easy to hack. Just mod the b-net UI with a chat site. :D.



lol and what good would that do for the hacker? lulz?? kekeke

60$ for one lulz isn't a great deal IMO, if hacker gets caught
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
fantomex
Profile Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
June 05 2010 13:08 GMT
#2126
Chat channels and cross realm play are legitimate concerns, but they are only part of why Bnet2 fails to deliver. One of the big reasons is because they didn't bother to fix map hacking so ladder will be shit.

Lets say we got chat channels tomorrow! Guess what... Bnet2 is still terrible. You're asking for more cup holders in a car that doesn't have an engine.

We will get chat channels eventually because they're obviously easy to implement. But Blizzard probably won't fix any of the half dozen more serious problems with Bnet2.
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_EmIL_
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden138 Posts
June 05 2010 13:29 GMT
#2127
I hope Blizzard reads what I write now.. Very little chance tho. Maybe people will agree with me and rise this thought.

Now, Blizzard about the crossrealm play is like "do you want to play 1 lagfree game and then play 5 laggy games and get discouraged to even bother playing?" type. Now, what Blizzard must understand is that if I have an american friend(im from Europe) and want to play with him, someone out of us two have to buy another game. Right? That is the problem. This is what people hate about Blizzard. My proposal, wich I think is 100% logical and don't understand why they don't do it this way. Because they didn't do it this way, I start to think that they only care about money. I'd like not to think this way, cauze Blizzard makes/has made good games in the past, and afaik they patched wc3 hardcore. Okey, their logic is that they want us not to play laggy games. Fine. I agree, nobody wants to play a game where your probe needs 2 seconds to move. But what if I know I dont lag with my american friend so I still want to play with him? I open a game and invite him. So easy. Instead of buying another game for 50 euros. I want to be able to invite my friends from other regions, but at the same time I dont want to play vs random people from china for example and get a laggy game. Solution: Keep the leagues in your own region. Make it so you can only get europeans(in my case) when you "quick search" for ladder play. It's soooo simple.

I didnt read through all the 107 pages so theres a big chance someone proposed this. But anyways, thats what I would do. Unlock the invite-function between the realms but keep the ladders locked between realms
Losing is winning
soultwister
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland80 Posts
June 05 2010 19:24 GMT
#2128
How can you make a multiplayer game that doesn't support LAN. I can only hope that after they make those billions selling SC2 and out of the progaming scene they didn't create, they'll 'least let me fucking play SC2 on a LAN party. It's really hard to bother with blizz anymore.
don't tell your plans to anybody, they won't know you've lost @ soultwister Zerg newb
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 21:22:28
June 05 2010 20:01 GMT
#2129
[image loading]





By the way I am excited to hear this

Thanks for the collection of feedback and the constructive tone. Always appreciated.

We're fully aware of the concerns that are being discussed in the various threads, on fansites, detailed through kitten videos, etc. and we're in the midst of working on a comprehensive address that should hit most of the major concerns. Just a heads up.
-Bashiok

http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170840862&sid=5000&pageNo=3#59



Keep up the good work people!
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
artanis2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States732 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 20:35:53
June 05 2010 20:33 GMT
#2130
Your link doesn't work.

edit: Found it. http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170840862&sid=5000&pageNo=3#59
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 20:43:12
June 05 2010 20:37 GMT
#2131
On June 06 2010 05:33 artanis2 wrote:
Your link doesn't work.

edit: Found it. http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170840862&sid=5000&pageNo=3#59


interesting does that mean bashiok has retracted his statement?

edit: nvm chase of retardation: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170840862&sid=5000&pageNo=3
"Mudkip"
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
June 05 2010 20:45 GMT
#2132
Need to just give up hope with Blizzard.

WoW players have been sitting at a MLG event about 30 minutes now waiting for Blizzard to bring back up their crashed server. Blizzard doesn't give a shit about player base, only money.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 20:51:24
June 05 2010 20:51 GMT
#2133
On June 06 2010 05:45 Nokeboy wrote:
Need to just give up hope with Blizzard.



Lets give them a chance to address the subject. If its the same "were going to maybe correct some of this stuff way down the road but not really in the way you want" rhetoric than I am sure the community will continue raging at them. However there is a chance they really didnt hear us the 100 times before and this time, with the threat of 1 star and the polls and the kittens and the canceling preorders, and the hundred page threads....has finally got their attention.



I say we patiently wait for their responce. We owe them that much.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
BillyMole
Profile Joined March 2010
United States118 Posts
June 05 2010 20:53 GMT
#2134
Comprehensive address really just means they'll write a crap forum post telling us that all the things we want are stupid, we are stupid, we need to be protected in this antisocial Bnet 2.0 framework, and Facebook is the best thing since sliced bread, taking priority over everything.
Perfect Balance
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway131 Posts
June 05 2010 21:56 GMT
#2135
On June 06 2010 05:53 BillyMole wrote:
Comprehensive address really just means they'll write a crap forum post telling us that all the things we want are stupid, we are stupid, we need to be protected in this antisocial Bnet 2.0 framework, and Facebook is the best thing since sliced bread, taking priority over everything.


This is the shocking part of it. Not only is Facebook taking priority over Blizzard's fans, but they are actually mocking us by treating us like idiots. Perhaps we're the wrong demographic, perhaps Blizzard wants to become a new EA. It certainly seems that way.
"Do you REALLY want chat rooms?" - You're good Blizzard! I was just fakin' it!
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
June 05 2010 22:09 GMT
#2136
On June 04 2010 22:55 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
OP should try and put notice into the starting post on when and what parts where edited in from the original post. I saw this thread when it was new but havent followed it all that closely as of late and was a bit confused whether or not the blues responses where in the original post or not(which I remembered after a while that they werent). Just saying.

Edit: ofc my memory could be completely failing me and I'm just talking gibberish.



Great advice I am adding dates to the material. I want to make it really easy for everyone to follow the whole story on the BNET 2.0 shit storm.



Hey guys I need your help. A while ago somone posted saying that a tournament in asia that tasteless had been casting was brought down cause of battlnet. There was also a post saying a lan party (want to say denmark) had been crippled cause of BNET 2.0.


Is there any where I can find info on this?
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
June 06 2010 09:28 GMT
#2137
On June 04 2010 07:39 hellsan631 wrote:
posted in the thread where xoridah said something about players wanting chat channels.

Show nested quote +
Xordiah :Sorry, I shouldn't have derailed the thread. Just couldn't resist when tempted.

Back on topic guys! Ignore my comment. :D


i think this means to nullify his earlier comment.

might be though, that they are actually working on chat channels.


Xordiah is a she and she didn't say they are working on chat channels, she just acknowledged that people want chat rooms and saiid she was sorry because it was off topic.
I'll call Nada.
cromat
Profile Joined May 2010
Afghanistan100 Posts
June 06 2010 11:15 GMT
#2138
I think the problem here is that this is only the beginning. If Blizzard already decided to screw over the players so much in the first year of merging with Activision, I'm wondering what's going to happen when Activision starts having a larger voice over blizzard on important decisions.
hello
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 12:28:54
June 06 2010 12:12 GMT
#2139
they need not fear lose us, the minority die-hard SC:BW fans, because of "casuals". They (BLIZZARD) are making this game not for the die-hard RTS fans of starcraft, but for the people who heard that BW is going to have a sequel and they just remembered the awesome Campaign of SC and will buy the game just for that. they don't care about the replayabilty or the community.

I say they don't care about eSport because they see it as a money drain. if they really wanted esports then how come there aren't any WoW professional leagues in the US organized by Blizzard? seeing how BIG the WoW there.

you can imagine now how we are being taken for granted. look at how the WHOLE SC:BW COMMUNITY bitch about that Frank Pierce interview and until now, NO OFFICIAL WORD from blizzard (those blue post dont count). Its almost ten days now and still don't have any idea on what are they going to do about the situation at hand.


Edit: I just re-read the short history of activision blizzard and this was quoted from that Activision Blizzard’s CFO (Chief Financial Officer) Thomas Tippl:

"Our gamers are telling us there's lots of services and innovation they would like to see that they're not getting yet. From what we see so far, additional content, as well as all the services Blizzard is offering, is that there is demand from the core gamers to pay up for that.”


seriously .. are they going to make us pay for channels or maybe latest patch? i thought it was an inside joke but i think they are going to push for this.
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 16:28:43
June 06 2010 16:18 GMT
#2140
On June 06 2010 21:12 aimaimaim wrote:
they need not fear lose us, the minority die-hard SC:BW fans, because of "casuals". They (BLIZZARD) are making this game not for the die-hard RTS fans of starcraft, but for the people who heard that BW is going to have a sequel and they just remembered the awesome Campaign of SC and will buy the game just for that. they don't care about the replayabilty or the community.



I dissagree that this is a "hardcore" issue. All evidence I have seen points to casuals caring about these things aswell.




Edit: I just re-read the short history of activision blizzard and this was quoted from that Activision Blizzard’s CFO (Chief Financial Officer) Thomas Tippl:

Show nested quote +
"Our gamers are telling us there's lots of services and innovation they would like to see that they're not getting yet. From what we see so far, additional content, as well as all the services Blizzard is offering, is that there is demand from the core gamers to pay up for that.”


seriously .. are they going to make us pay for channels or maybe latest patch? i thought it was an inside joke but i think they are going to push for this.


It doesnt even need to be something as insidious as charging directly for channels. It could be that chat channels, clans, etc.. are bundled with Heart of the Swarm as part of a "enhanced BNET communication" tagline.

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