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ayababa
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia347 Posts
June 07 2010 01:28 GMT
#2141
this has ruined my monday. ffs. i played sc1 for about 6 years non competivley and i really was looking forward going all out in as many comps and ladders sc2 had to offer. now i doubt there will be any.
Well done is better than well said - Benjamin Franklin
ayababa
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia347 Posts
June 07 2010 01:37 GMT
#2142
On May 29 2010 05:13 snotboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 05:10 Ocedic wrote:


Relax with the conspiracy theories, take a step back and keep things in perspective.


What conspiracy theories are you talking about? We're pissed at the things he himself mentioned. I don't want to fucking play on a server where 90% of the people I face don't speak English and there's no chat rooms to chat with the 10% who do!!!!

FUCK.



with you on this. as we are both in australia. dont get me wrong i wanan get better and playing people in south east asia would probably do that ... but err. i wont understand them...
Well done is better than well said - Benjamin Franklin
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
June 07 2010 01:41 GMT
#2143
On June 05 2010 12:14 aimaimaim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 12:10 Half wrote:
On June 05 2010 11:48 klaw224 wrote:

what we're talking about right now are chat rooms. You cant hack in a chat room unless someone makes his own battle.net with xrealm support and chatrooms.



Chat rooms could be pretty easy to hack. Just mod the b-net UI with a chat site. :D.



lol and what good would that do for the hacker? lulz?? kekeke

60$ for one lulz isn't a great deal IMO, if hacker gets caught



You're misunderstanding me. I mean to Mod into the user interface for players to use. You probably couldn't get caught for it.
Too Busy to Troll!
ayababa
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia347 Posts
June 07 2010 01:47 GMT
#2144
On May 29 2010 05:18 Ocedic wrote:

And if Australians did connect to US servers, I'm sure you'd be complaining about terrible lag. What do you want Blizz to do? Fix the Internet?

And the conspiracy theories is referring to those talking about Blizz selling what games you have on your account to facebook.


OK this is my last post... HAVE YOU EVEN PLAYED WITH AUSSIES! i have not once been lagged out of a game on the US servers (aus played on the us servers for the beta).

andd i dont even have that fast an internet. 4v4 is a breeze


Well done is better than well said - Benjamin Franklin
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-07 18:45:45
June 07 2010 18:42 GMT
#2145
From the recent thead about people posting inappropriate videos in custom maps.

This is not a topic that's open to discussion or debate. If you have an issue with a map, you have the ability to report it.

If there's a concern with map publishing or the mechanics of what a map allows, please post it in the map development forum.
-Bashiok

http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25172042929&sid=5000&pageNo=6


Blizzard seems to be getting increasingly "aggressive" about BNET related threads. Bashiok replys to a thread about a legitimate concern about the safety of BNET 2.0 content. Many other users post pointing out that the "Rickroll map" has been up for several days. Suddenly Bashiok comes in deletes all the posts after his and locks the thread
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
June 07 2010 18:52 GMT
#2146
I'm really interested in the nature of that response. It's really unlike them to say flat out "No, this isn't something you can discuss, shut up".

I'd really liked to know the rationale behind the decision.
Too Busy to Troll!
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
June 07 2010 18:53 GMT
#2147
On June 08 2010 03:42 Archerofaiur wrote:
From the recent thead about people posting inappropriate videos in custom maps.

Show nested quote +
This is not a topic that's open to discussion or debate. If you have an issue with a map, you have the ability to report it.

If there's a concern with map publishing or the mechanics of what a map allows, please post it in the map development forum.
-Bashiok

http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25172042929&sid=5000&pageNo=6


Blizzard seems to be getting increasingly "aggressive" about BNET related threads. Bashiok replys to a thread about a legitimate concern about the safety of BNET 2.0 content. Many other users post pointing out that the "Rickroll map" has been up for several days. Suddenly Bashiok comes in deletes all the posts after his and locks the thread



It could mean anything when the Blues start doing this.

Hopefully it's their angry response after getting their asses kicked verbally down the line for having B.Net2.0 as a huge social collective blunder for gamers, and word finally getting to the stockholders about how pissed off Blizzard's loyal customers really are.

There's always hope.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
June 07 2010 18:54 GMT
#2148
On June 08 2010 03:53 Joey.rumz wrote:
Hopefully it's their angry response after getting their asses kicked verbally down the line for having B.Net2.0 as a huge social collective blunder for gamers, and word finally getting to the stockholders about how pissed off Blizzard's loyal customers really are.


Not a chance.

Too Busy to Troll!
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
June 07 2010 18:56 GMT
#2149
On June 08 2010 03:54 Half wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2010 03:53 Joey.rumz wrote:
Hopefully it's their angry response after getting their asses kicked verbally down the line for having B.Net2.0 as a huge social collective blunder for gamers, and word finally getting to the stockholders about how pissed off Blizzard's loyal customers really are.


Not a chance.




I think you would be surprised if you found out how much shit is rolling down the hill right now at Blizzard HQ.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-07 18:58:11
June 07 2010 18:57 GMT
#2150
I say they don't care about eSport because they see it as a money drain. if they really wanted esports then how come there aren't any WoW professional leagues in the US organized by Blizzard? seeing how BIG the WoW there.


they do a abit with the tourney servers (which ofc cost like 20$ for access!) but overall i think they realise that wow just is super shit for esports and is pure fotm OPtrain.

also its like the worst game for viewers EVER. "oh look.. this guy is running around and some magic and oh... someone died just somewhere because of something... ermm great played!..."

srsly, super mario lost levels speedrun contests would be more competive and better for the viewer then wow. so its no wonder that they dont really care.



On June 08 2010 03:56 Joey.rumz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2010 03:54 Half wrote:
On June 08 2010 03:53 Joey.rumz wrote:
Hopefully it's their angry response after getting their asses kicked verbally down the line for having B.Net2.0 as a huge social collective blunder for gamers, and word finally getting to the stockholders about how pissed off Blizzard's loyal customers really are.


Not a chance.




I think you would be surprised if you found out how much shit is rolling down the hill right now at Blizzard HQ.


explain . are you just assuming that cause of the 1-2 blueposts or do you have info
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sword_siege
Profile Joined September 2002
United States624 Posts
June 07 2010 18:58 GMT
#2151
On June 08 2010 03:56 Joey.rumz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2010 03:54 Half wrote:
On June 08 2010 03:53 Joey.rumz wrote:
Hopefully it's their angry response after getting their asses kicked verbally down the line for having B.Net2.0 as a huge social collective blunder for gamers, and word finally getting to the stockholders about how pissed off Blizzard's loyal customers really are.


Not a chance.




I think you would be surprised if you found out how much shit is rolling down the hill right now at Blizzard HQ.


Care to elaborate?
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
June 07 2010 19:03 GMT
#2152
On June 08 2010 03:52 Half wrote:
I'm really interested in the nature of that response. It's really unlike them to say flat out "No, this isn't something you can discuss, shut up".

I'd really liked to know the rationale behind the decision.


Have you ever worked for a company where the management is making absurdly bad decisions and it's your job to support and explain those decision to others? It is fucking frustrating as all hell. Saying "this is how it is" and ending the conversation is a natural response.
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-07 19:14:43
June 07 2010 19:11 GMT
#2153
On June 08 2010 03:58 sword_siege wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2010 03:56 Joey.rumz wrote:
On June 08 2010 03:54 Half wrote:
On June 08 2010 03:53 Joey.rumz wrote:
Hopefully it's their angry response after getting their asses kicked verbally down the line for having B.Net2.0 as a huge social collective blunder for gamers, and word finally getting to the stockholders about how pissed off Blizzard's loyal customers really are.


Not a chance.




I think you would be surprised if you found out how much shit is rolling down the hill right now at Blizzard HQ.


Care to elaborate?



Not particularly, but in the next few weeks I expect there to be some changes made for the better of the hardcore community.

For one, the closing of Craft Cup had to have opened some eyes to the way players are to commune with each other on a competitive level.

Forcing people to share e-mail information to participate in any type of competition probably wasn't the desire of the system. But lately, that's what it's turned into. Whether it was intentional or not, I think we know the immediate answer seeing the framework of the system.

Secondly, having people reporting hackers constantly with common names and not having true access to their identifier with the recent patch had to have caused a few solid headaches, I doubt blizzard enjoys having to go through the replay data and parsing account information on common nicks to figure out who the real problems are.

I suspect big changes when this game goes live, or shortly before or thereafter.

Edit:

Sorry it seems like a really vague explanation, but if you recall, I was the one that broke the Gamestop key deal before almost everyone at gamestop that even works there knew about it, the thread I made is somewhere around here, my sources are typically extremely reliable. Just sit back and enjoy the show.

Edit2: You can see my previous fine work here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120591
EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
June 07 2010 21:40 GMT
#2154
Blizzard.. How FAR you've fallen.
I have a simple philosophy: Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches. Alice Roosevelt Longworth
InfiniteIce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States794 Posts
June 08 2010 01:04 GMT
#2155
On June 08 2010 03:52 Half wrote:
I'm really interested in the nature of that response. It's really unlike them to say flat out "No, this isn't something you can discuss, shut up".

I'd really liked to know the rationale behind the decision.


This has happened to me 3 times on the Blizz forums.

I've been tempbanned 3 times for "Trolling" due to posting bnet threads, one of which even asked users to reply in a very respectful manner, no flaming, etc. I got 25 pages of reply with pretty much no flame toward Blue whatsoever. Topic was deleted and i was tempbanned for "trolling"

It was and should be unlike them to say that flat out, but it's becoming increasingly more common.

"Don't give us beta feedback. Banned".
i keep going back to my response to chill's fake PM and laughing, then immediately getting a feeling that i assume i'd get if i had an orgasm and the girl said "hahaha guess what i have a dick" -FakeSteve
VladCepesh
Profile Joined June 2010
Serbia12 Posts
June 08 2010 11:22 GMT
#2156
I think maybe this link should be added to the list of threads.

Will you buy or boycott SC2?
"A well placed grunt is better than thousand words."
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-08 18:26:00
June 08 2010 18:23 GMT
#2157
Ok I have conflicted feelings about Ghetto-Overlord. He is one of the old school trolls from the BNET forum and he has this annoying habbit of cluttering forums with % win statistics to try and make his points.


However on his recent blog...



Battle.net 2.0: The Antithesis of Consumer Confidence


I’m late to the Battle.net 2.0 Hate Party, but I brought a keg, so here goes.

I don’t get angry about video games. Passionate? Yeah, it’s pathetic. But no, not angry. Game developers are people, too. They got bills to pay. But Battle.net 2.0 makes me angry.

Starcraft II is excellence. It’s sensational. Dustin Browder knew this game was his legacy and his squad delivered. And it’s a fucking shame people are going to turn on this product for things Browder has no control over. Right now, the Battle.net Forums look like the Battle of the Somme and Starcraft fan site TeamLiquid is trying to disown the game. The internet has shat a brick. What the hell happened?

I wasn’t around for the “Atari owns the industry” days. But in my lifetime, nothing tops Activision-Blizzard, a corporate culture whose roots lie in four developers who escaped Atari’s corporate culture. I have never seen one company try so hard to tell me this is the product I want.

Battle.net 2.0 is supposed to be the future of online gaming. Instead, it is the antithesis of consumer confidence, a combination of corporate suits who don’t play video games and game designers who can’t do damage control.

Fine, tell me it’s wrong to assume an Activision corporate culture would impact its corporate partner. You know, where the President of Blizzard Entertainment answers directly to Thomas Tippl, an executive who answers to Activision C.E.O. Bobby Kotick. The Bobby Kotick who disowned projects that lacked “the potential to be exploited every year on every platform with clear sequel potential”. The Bobby Kotick who stated he wants to “take the fun out of making video games.” Or you can see what happens when an online gaming service is not a game design decision.

—

Economics is consumer confidence. People don’t buy products. They buy confidence a product will bring utility or enjoyment to the user. That’s why the success of sequels reflect on their predecessor, where Guitar Hero III is the best-selling game in the series and Modern Warfare 2 outguns Call of Duty 4 on a two-to-one basis.

Starcraft II is a marketing nightmare. It is the sequel to a twelve-year-old computer game, a beacon in the forgotten era of Deus Ex and Baldur’s Gate. Why forgotten? Computer gaming sucks ass. If you aren’t playing Modern Warfare 2 (latest in a series popularized on computers) on your X-Box 360 (manufactured by the producer of Windows) on X-Box Live (Battle.net, Yahoo! Games, The Zone, etc.), you’re a fucking pussy. Unless you play World of Warcraft, the skinner box that shares nothing in common with Starcraft.


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The greatest test of skill in video games: A niche market.




Full Blog at The Ghetto
http://www.the-ghetto.org/content/battle-net-2-0-the-antithesis-of-consumer-confidence

http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
June 08 2010 18:25 GMT
#2158
His blog is just repeating what's been said 1000 times already, but in a really angry tone.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-08 19:02:50
June 08 2010 18:28 GMT
#2159
On June 09 2010 03:25 Goshawk. wrote:
His blog is just repeating what's been said 1000 times already, but in a really angry tone.


Thats because there is allot of anger over BNET 0.2. The community feels betrayed by the one company we trusted. Now I dont agree with everything Ghetto says. Specifically I think there is a level of respect we should try and show Blizzard that his blog falls short of.

However what hes saying really is, like you said, representative of much of the communities feelings.


On June 08 2010 20:22 VladCepesh wrote:
I think maybe this link should be added to the list of threads.

Will you buy or boycott SC2?


I would but, as Chill points out, boycotting isnt really an effective form of protest. I share your aggrevation over the whole thing but I feel the best thing to do is continue voicing our opinion to Blizzard. And that is not contradictory to playing the game we all love.




Also something people might find interesting. Blizzard recently commented on a TLO game on the BNET forums. Only one problem....it wasnt the real TLO. I wonder how many more of these situations we need before Blizzard realizes identifiers are important.


http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25172043834&pageNo=2&sid=5000#24
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
June 08 2010 21:14 GMT
#2160
I would enjoy chatrooms; however, I'm not a big fan of cross realm play. I know that cross realm play will make it easier to conduct tourneys. I just don't want what happened with Brood War B.net, where almost ALL of the games for U.S. West were Korean games. First of all I couldn't even read what the games were that were posted. Secondly, it seemed like everyone in every non-UMS game was a non english speaker.

It's simple. When I play on U.S. West, I want to play with people who speak English.
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