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On May 28 2010 10:46 Darpa wrote:
So does this apply to the private cups like Craftcup, Zotac, HDH, and the hundreds of other tournies we see right now in the beta? They cant seriously think that all the craft cups and 100 dollar tournaments will have to negotiate with gomtv? if they do they will have literally killed e-sports. Because none of those tournaments will continue to exist if they have to negotiate rates with gomtv. not to mention their low quality streams are fucking garbage, and I for one wont be paying to watch streams of starcraft that are watchable.
I believe it's Korea, not worldwide, and I doubt they even care about small community based tournaments within Korea anyway, they were already supposed to ask for approval or whatever the process was
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On May 28 2010 10:46 Darpa wrote:
So does this apply to the private cups like Craftcup, Zotac, HDH, and the hundreds of other tournies we see right now in the beta? They cant seriously think that all the craft cups and 100 dollar tournaments will have to negotiate with gomtv? if they do they will have literally killed e-sports. Because none of those tournaments will continue to exist if they have to negotiate rates with gomtv. The announcement deals with television broadcast rights, so online tournaments should be fine.
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On May 28 2010 10:58 eugen1225 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2010 10:46 Darpa wrote:
So does this apply to the private cups like Craftcup, Zotac, HDH, and the hundreds of other tournies we see right now in the beta? They cant seriously think that all the craft cups and 100 dollar tournaments will have to negotiate with gomtv? if they do they will have literally killed e-sports. Because none of those tournaments will continue to exist if they have to negotiate rates with gomtv. not to mention their low quality streams are fucking garbage, and I for one wont be paying to watch streams of starcraft that are watchable. According to the OP, GomTV holds the rights for Korea, not the world. Back to topic. As i recall (from another topic on these forums, I might be wrong) Korean laws on secondary intellectual right are not the same as US laws, more like, there are none. They bought the game (SC:BW), how and for what they use it is not blizzards business (although they are desperate to make it so). P.S. Is there no end to blizzards greed...
<sarcasm>Yeah.. imagine, a company that makes games for profit would go as far as to try to make sure that the profit earned from their games goes to their company. The NERVE! And here KeSPA has been running the e-sports scene in South Korea for no other reason than the joy of the fans...</sarcasm>
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Like you said, Blizzard is a business that wants to make a PROFIT and so does KeSPA. Of course Blizzard is making this move.
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I haven't read the whole thread (it's ridiculously long but I'll work through it eventually). IMHO this is absolutely horrible news for BW and it raises so many questions =/.
Bae In-Shik, Gom-TV spokesperson, commented "[We are] happy that the fans will be able to enjoy the Blizzard game tournaments in the near future. In the upcoming Starcraft II tournament, hosted by Gom-TV, we will open the doors to the current Starcraft Pro-gamers in Korea so that they can participate in the tournament. We are also looking to cooperate with other e-Sports related broadcasting companies."
This is a bunch of bullshit. Current SC/BW progamers are allowed to participate? Too bad none of them are playing SC2 (do they even WANT to play SC2? I know Flash is certainly enamored with SC/BW). What about contracts that current BW players have with their teams? Will the teams even stay together or disband? The consequences of this are so severe, it's basically forcing a switch from SC1 to SC2.
And what about these tournaments? Are they gonna fly people to Korea to play or is it just going to be some online ladder garbage? Is there even a point to fly people around (since everything is going to be played on B.net anyways)? Are we really going to give up live OSL/MSL/Proleague matches almost every day of the week for some online SC2 matches? This would be setting the scene back by years.
Hopefully future press releases will answer some of my questions, until then I'm thinking this is a bad thing for the community.
Edit: I don't think people should see this as Kespa vs Blizzard. This is more like Blizzard vs the BW scene and Blizzard is completely killing it. I know some people don't give a shit about BW but some of us who still care about the BW scene and the pros should be really worried.
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On May 28 2010 11:16 ArC_man wrote:I haven't read the whole thread (it's ridiculously long but I'll work through it eventually). IMHO this is absolutely horrible news for BW and it raises so many questions =/. Show nested quote +
Bae In-Shik, Gom-TV spokesperson, commented "[We are] happy that the fans will be able to enjoy the Blizzard game tournaments in the near future. In the upcoming Starcraft II tournament, hosted by Gom-TV, we will open the doors to the current Starcraft Pro-gamers in Korea so that they can participate in the tournament. We are also looking to cooperate with other e-Sports related broadcasting companies."
This is a bunch of bullshit. Current SC/BW progamers are allowed to participate? Too bad none of them are playing SC2 (do they even WANT to play SC2? I know Flash is certainly enamored with SC/BW). What about contracts that current BW players have with their teams? Will the teams even stay together or disband? The consequences of this are so severe, it's basically forcing a switch from SC1 to SC2. And what about these tournaments? Are they gonna fly people to Korea to play or is it just going to be some online ladder garbage? Is there even a point to fly people around (since everything is going to be played on B.net anyways)? Are we really going to give up live OSL/MSL/Proleague matches almost every day of the week for some online SC2 matches? This would be setting the scene back by years. Hopefully future press releases will answer some of my questions, until then I'm thinking this is a bad thing for the community. Edit: I don't think people should see this as Kespa vs Blizzard. This is more like Blizzard vs the BW scene and Blizzard is completely killing it. I know some people don't give a shit about BW but some of us who still care about the BW scene and the pros should be really worried.
So yea, BW was sitting pretty in South Korea, but where was it going outside of Korea?
Nowhere. KeSPA was discouraging that as much as possible.
Sure, the BW scene MIGHT die because of this (MIGHT), but I think that'd be a perfectly fine casualty if it meant the growth of e-sports internationally instead of just keeping it in South Korea.
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On May 28 2010 11:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2010 11:16 ArC_man wrote:I haven't read the whole thread (it's ridiculously long but I'll work through it eventually). IMHO this is absolutely horrible news for BW and it raises so many questions =/.
Bae In-Shik, Gom-TV spokesperson, commented "[We are] happy that the fans will be able to enjoy the Blizzard game tournaments in the near future. In the upcoming Starcraft II tournament, hosted by Gom-TV, we will open the doors to the current Starcraft Pro-gamers in Korea so that they can participate in the tournament. We are also looking to cooperate with other e-Sports related broadcasting companies."
This is a bunch of bullshit. Current SC/BW progamers are allowed to participate? Too bad none of them are playing SC2 (do they even WANT to play SC2? I know Flash is certainly enamored with SC/BW). What about contracts that current BW players have with their teams? Will the teams even stay together or disband? The consequences of this are so severe, it's basically forcing a switch from SC1 to SC2. And what about these tournaments? Are they gonna fly people to Korea to play or is it just going to be some online ladder garbage? Is there even a point to fly people around (since everything is going to be played on B.net anyways)? Are we really going to give up live OSL/MSL/Proleague matches almost every day of the week for some online SC2 matches? This would be setting the scene back by years. Hopefully future press releases will answer some of my questions, until then I'm thinking this is a bad thing for the community. Edit: I don't think people should see this as Kespa vs Blizzard. This is more like Blizzard vs the BW scene and Blizzard is completely killing it. I know some people don't give a shit about BW but some of us who still care about the BW scene and the pros should be really worried. So yea, BW was sitting pretty in South Korea, but where was it going outside of Korea? Nowhere. KeSPA was discouraging that as much as possible. Sure, the BW scene MIGHT die because of this (MIGHT), but I think that'd be a perfectly fine casualty if it meant the growth of e-sports internationally instead of just keeping it in South Korea.
Of course this all hinges on what will happen to BW. BW's death shouldn't be necessary for the growth of the international SC2 scene.
Do you really think professional teams and live TV matches are going to magically start up in any country? And within reasonable time also (what are the chances that they start up within the year?)? This is a major setback for the community. The BW scene in Korea was something that we should look to modeling the international SC2 scene after, how do we model our scene after something that's dead?
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On May 28 2010 11:16 ArC_man wrote:I haven't read the whole thread (it's ridiculously long but I'll work through it eventually). IMHO this is absolutely horrible news for BW and it raises so many questions =/. Show nested quote +
Bae In-Shik, Gom-TV spokesperson, commented "[We are] happy that the fans will be able to enjoy the Blizzard game tournaments in the near future. In the upcoming Starcraft II tournament, hosted by Gom-TV, we will open the doors to the current Starcraft Pro-gamers in Korea so that they can participate in the tournament. We are also looking to cooperate with other e-Sports related broadcasting companies."
This is a bunch of bullshit. Current SC/BW progamers are allowed to participate? Too bad none of them are playing SC2 (do they even WANT to play SC2? I know Flash is certainly enamored with SC/BW). What about contracts that current BW players have with their teams? Will the teams even stay together or disband? The consequences of this are so severe, it's basically forcing a switch from SC1 to SC2. And what about these tournaments? Are they gonna fly people to Korea to play or is it just going to be some online ladder garbage? Is there even a point to fly people around (since everything is going to be played on B.net anyways)? Are we really going to give up live OSL/MSL/Proleague matches almost every day of the week for some online SC2 matches? This would be setting the scene back by years. Hopefully future press releases will answer some of my questions, until then I'm thinking this is a bad thing for the community. Edit: I don't think people should see this as Kespa vs Blizzard. This is more like Blizzard vs the BW scene and Blizzard is completely killing it. I know some people don't give a shit about BW but some of us who still care about the BW scene and the pros should be really worried.
And why would you see it like that? Because you want to create conflicts where there in reality are none?
Blizzard is not out to get the bw scene, nor is anyone who thinks that this was probably the best course of action. If anything, what people should see this as is inevitable. Thats a pretty fitting word right now because yes this may be bad for the bw scene but all of this is pretty much a necessary evil anyway. Sc2 does not need bw to die for it to succeed but the issue between KeSPA and Blizzard over sc2 could not be solved without the solutions to that issue having secondary consequences to the bw scene. Blizzard was legitimately unhappy with KeSPA due to as Blizzard themselves state it their unwillingness to respect the IP and they decided that for sc2 they needed to take a stance and make the lines clear from the beginning to avoid this happening again later on. That decision by Blizzard was completely reasonable, KeSPA did not agree with this stance and thats their right, however it would not be possible for Blizzard to on one hand take this firm stand on sc2 without essentially making the same stand for all of their IP's. Ergo, here we are.
In the end I don't think that in reality anything will actually change as far as the progamers and the spectators are concerned. The only people who this will affect are people with fancy titles who will now either make more or less money depending on who they work for.
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On May 28 2010 12:17 ymirheim wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2010 11:16 ArC_man wrote:I haven't read the whole thread (it's ridiculously long but I'll work through it eventually). IMHO this is absolutely horrible news for BW and it raises so many questions =/.
Bae In-Shik, Gom-TV spokesperson, commented "[We are] happy that the fans will be able to enjoy the Blizzard game tournaments in the near future. In the upcoming Starcraft II tournament, hosted by Gom-TV, we will open the doors to the current Starcraft Pro-gamers in Korea so that they can participate in the tournament. We are also looking to cooperate with other e-Sports related broadcasting companies."
This is a bunch of bullshit. Current SC/BW progamers are allowed to participate? Too bad none of them are playing SC2 (do they even WANT to play SC2? I know Flash is certainly enamored with SC/BW). What about contracts that current BW players have with their teams? Will the teams even stay together or disband? The consequences of this are so severe, it's basically forcing a switch from SC1 to SC2. And what about these tournaments? Are they gonna fly people to Korea to play or is it just going to be some online ladder garbage? Is there even a point to fly people around (since everything is going to be played on B.net anyways)? Are we really going to give up live OSL/MSL/Proleague matches almost every day of the week for some online SC2 matches? This would be setting the scene back by years. Hopefully future press releases will answer some of my questions, until then I'm thinking this is a bad thing for the community. Edit: I don't think people should see this as Kespa vs Blizzard. This is more like Blizzard vs the BW scene and Blizzard is completely killing it. I know some people don't give a shit about BW but some of us who still care about the BW scene and the pros should be really worried. And why would you see it like that? Because you want to create conflicts where there in reality are none? Blizzard is not out to get the bw scene, nor is anyone who thinks that this was probably the best course of action. If anything, what people should see this as is inevitable. Thats a pretty fitting word right now because yes this may be bad for the bw scene but all of this is pretty much a necessary evil anyway. Sc2 does not need bw to die for it to succeed but the issue between KeSPA and Blizzard over sc2 could not be solved without the solutions to that issue having secondary consequences to the bw scene. Blizzard was legitimately unhappy with KeSPA due to as Blizzard themselves state it their unwillingness to respect the IP and they decided that for sc2 they needed to take a stance and make the lines clear from the beginning to avoid this happening again later on. That decision by Blizzard was completely reasonable, KeSPA did not agree with this stance and thats their right, however it would not be possible for Blizzard to on one hand take this firm stand on sc2 without essentially making the same stand for all of their IP's. Ergo, here we are. In the end I don't think that in reality anything will actually change as far as the progamers and the spectators are concerned. The only people who this will affect are people with fancy titles who will now either make more or less money depending on who they work for.
How am I creating a conflict? I'm just stating my opinion on an issue that I'm worried about. I think most people already saw Blizzard doing this a couple months ago, I just hoped it wouldn't happen (or it happened but Blizz left BW alone). Of course Blizz isn't out to kill one of its own games (it's out to kill Kespa of course) but right now the only thing holding BW alive is Kespa. After Kespa dies there won't be an organization that is magically going to arise and draw sponsors, hire progamers, pay the IP to Blizz, and start hosting Starleagues again (at least I can't see this happening).
To your last statement, I HOPE that this doesn't effect progamers and spectators but only time will tell.
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On May 28 2010 10:58 eugen1225 wrote:
P.S. Is there no end to blizzards greed...
No; as it should be. What business doesn't operate on greedy motives? You also have to understand that large companies such as these have many shareholders in the company. They can't knowingly take routes that yield less profit and expect their shareholders to be happy with the decision. Their profits are not solely effecting themselves.
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On May 28 2010 11:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2010 11:16 ArC_man wrote:I haven't read the whole thread (it's ridiculously long but I'll work through it eventually). IMHO this is absolutely horrible news for BW and it raises so many questions =/.
Bae In-Shik, Gom-TV spokesperson, commented "[We are] happy that the fans will be able to enjoy the Blizzard game tournaments in the near future. In the upcoming Starcraft II tournament, hosted by Gom-TV, we will open the doors to the current Starcraft Pro-gamers in Korea so that they can participate in the tournament. We are also looking to cooperate with other e-Sports related broadcasting companies."
This is a bunch of bullshit. Current SC/BW progamers are allowed to participate? Too bad none of them are playing SC2 (do they even WANT to play SC2? I know Flash is certainly enamored with SC/BW). What about contracts that current BW players have with their teams? Will the teams even stay together or disband? The consequences of this are so severe, it's basically forcing a switch from SC1 to SC2. And what about these tournaments? Are they gonna fly people to Korea to play or is it just going to be some online ladder garbage? Is there even a point to fly people around (since everything is going to be played on B.net anyways)? Are we really going to give up live OSL/MSL/Proleague matches almost every day of the week for some online SC2 matches? This would be setting the scene back by years. Hopefully future press releases will answer some of my questions, until then I'm thinking this is a bad thing for the community. Edit: I don't think people should see this as Kespa vs Blizzard. This is more like Blizzard vs the BW scene and Blizzard is completely killing it. I know some people don't give a shit about BW but some of us who still care about the BW scene and the pros should be really worried. So yea, BW was sitting pretty in South Korea, but where was it going outside of Korea? Nowhere. KeSPA was discouraging that as much as possible.
I have no idea where you get this statement from. Since when did KeSPA try and discourage a foreign scene? Because they didn't have english shoutcasts? Did you make it up because it felt right?!?
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I would be awasome to sie brothers Plot due in GOMTV.
As for now - in my opinion - Day[9] is better SC2 comentator that his brother
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So yea, BW was sitting pretty in South Korea, but where was it going outside of Korea?
Nowhere. KeSPA was discouraging that as much as possible.
Rather like Broodwar went down outside of korea because of the release of warcraft 3. True, Kespa isn't really cooperative in broadcasting for english viewers, which is understandable, but i dont think you can say they discourage a foreign scene.
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On May 28 2010 11:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:
So yea, BW was sitting pretty in South Korea, but where was it going outside of Korea?
Nowhere. KeSPA was discouraging that as much as possible.
Sure, the BW scene MIGHT die because of this (MIGHT), but I think that'd be a perfectly fine casualty if it meant the growth of e-sports internationally instead of just keeping it in South Korea.
I don't really understand your logic in this. Why would KeSPA (ran by Korean sponsors) be setting up BW related things outside of Korea? None of them outside of Samsung have brand recognition anywhere else in the world. You can't really blame Korean companies for not making the scene grow outside of Korea when domestic companies don't care. It's a lot harder for a company to setup a business in foreign soil than it is for them to invest with an already established one--which there wasn't.
If they really were discouraging the BW scene outside of Korea as much as possible, do you really think Idra/Nony/ret would have been invited to proteams?
You make it sound like BW, and by extention, KeSPA, was stiffling e-sports from growing internationally, and not the lack of corporations/people dedicated enough to it to make it grow. This will still be an issue regardless of what happens to BW.
If I had to venture a guess, I'd say corporations seeing Blizzard strong arming KeSPA like this will make them less likely to sponsor/invest in a way similar to what the current SC pro teams are like. I suppose not everyone views this as a bad thing.
On May 28 2010 13:41 QueueQueue wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2010 10:58 eugen1225 wrote:
P.S. Is there no end to blizzards greed...
No; as it should be. What business doesn't operate on greedy motives? You also have to understand that large companies such as these have many shareholders in the company. They can't knowingly take routes that yield less profit and expect their shareholders to be happy with the decision. Their profits are not solely effecting themselves.
There are a lot of businesses that are out to make money, but not all of them do it at the expense of others. Most companies adhere to some standard of social responsibility and routinely take routes that yield less profit for <whatever reason>, most oftenly for PR--which is arguably the most important asset for a company to have. So yes, there should be an end to their greed when it adversely affects society. I don't think what Blizzard is doing is on a scale that could be considered adversely affecting society, in this case, the e-sports scene, but obviously a lot of people here think otherwise.
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On May 28 2010 11:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2010 11:16 ArC_man wrote:I haven't read the whole thread (it's ridiculously long but I'll work through it eventually). IMHO this is absolutely horrible news for BW and it raises so many questions =/.
Bae In-Shik, Gom-TV spokesperson, commented "[We are] happy that the fans will be able to enjoy the Blizzard game tournaments in the near future. In the upcoming Starcraft II tournament, hosted by Gom-TV, we will open the doors to the current Starcraft Pro-gamers in Korea so that they can participate in the tournament. We are also looking to cooperate with other e-Sports related broadcasting companies."
This is a bunch of bullshit. Current SC/BW progamers are allowed to participate? Too bad none of them are playing SC2 (do they even WANT to play SC2? I know Flash is certainly enamored with SC/BW). What about contracts that current BW players have with their teams? Will the teams even stay together or disband? The consequences of this are so severe, it's basically forcing a switch from SC1 to SC2. And what about these tournaments? Are they gonna fly people to Korea to play or is it just going to be some online ladder garbage? Is there even a point to fly people around (since everything is going to be played on B.net anyways)? Are we really going to give up live OSL/MSL/Proleague matches almost every day of the week for some online SC2 matches? This would be setting the scene back by years. Hopefully future press releases will answer some of my questions, until then I'm thinking this is a bad thing for the community. Edit: I don't think people should see this as Kespa vs Blizzard. This is more like Blizzard vs the BW scene and Blizzard is completely killing it. I know some people don't give a shit about BW but some of us who still care about the BW scene and the pros should be really worried. So yea, BW was sitting pretty in South Korea, but where was it going outside of Korea? Nowhere. KeSPA was discouraging that as much as possible.
I've seen this expressed quite a bit now, and it's just absolutely insane. I get it, you guys were introduced to the BW pro scene in Korea through GOM's english commentary. Great. Then you heard KeSPA killed it off and you no longer got to watch Tasteless, making you upset. Perfectly reasonable.
The problem comes when you somehow correlate that with KeSPA actively discouraging eSports in the rest of the world. I mean come on, at least make an effort to try to understand someone else's position. They didn't 'kill' GOM because of it's english commentary - they were upset over a myriad of completely unrelated factors. Besides, what motivation do they have to take the BW scene to an international level? I mean, the idea that BW will rise as an eSport somewhere else in the world is pretty damn far off (unfortunately). This is why everyone is riding on SC2 - it has nice pretty graphics that won't turn off all the shallow western gamers out there. =P
Sure, the BW scene MIGHT die because of this (MIGHT), but I think that'd be a perfectly fine casualty if it meant the growth of e-sports internationally instead of just keeping it in South Korea.
Even somehow assuming Blizzard trying to take control of Korean eSports was going to spread the growth of eSports internationally, "It's okay if they lose something as long as I get what I want" is a terrible, terrible philosophy to have.
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To somewhat disregard this whole argument, a Day[9] + Tasteless duo cast would probably be the best thing that could happen, commentating-wise. Seriously, how awesome would that be? The goddamn Plott Brothers together, commentating side by side on a professional level.
I need new pants.
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How does this legally work? Just because you buy a Spalding basketball doesn't mean they have control of NBA games. You pay your $60 for a game why don't 3rd parties have the rights to make video of consenting parties playing it?
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On May 28 2010 12:42 ArC_man wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2010 12:17 ymirheim wrote:On May 28 2010 11:16 ArC_man wrote:I haven't read the whole thread (it's ridiculously long but I'll work through it eventually). IMHO this is absolutely horrible news for BW and it raises so many questions =/.
Bae In-Shik, Gom-TV spokesperson, commented "[We are] happy that the fans will be able to enjoy the Blizzard game tournaments in the near future. In the upcoming Starcraft II tournament, hosted by Gom-TV, we will open the doors to the current Starcraft Pro-gamers in Korea so that they can participate in the tournament. We are also looking to cooperate with other e-Sports related broadcasting companies."
This is a bunch of bullshit. Current SC/BW progamers are allowed to participate? Too bad none of them are playing SC2 (do they even WANT to play SC2? I know Flash is certainly enamored with SC/BW). What about contracts that current BW players have with their teams? Will the teams even stay together or disband? The consequences of this are so severe, it's basically forcing a switch from SC1 to SC2. And what about these tournaments? Are they gonna fly people to Korea to play or is it just going to be some online ladder garbage? Is there even a point to fly people around (since everything is going to be played on B.net anyways)? Are we really going to give up live OSL/MSL/Proleague matches almost every day of the week for some online SC2 matches? This would be setting the scene back by years. Hopefully future press releases will answer some of my questions, until then I'm thinking this is a bad thing for the community. Edit: I don't think people should see this as Kespa vs Blizzard. This is more like Blizzard vs the BW scene and Blizzard is completely killing it. I know some people don't give a shit about BW but some of us who still care about the BW scene and the pros should be really worried. And why would you see it like that? Because you want to create conflicts where there in reality are none? Blizzard is not out to get the bw scene, nor is anyone who thinks that this was probably the best course of action. If anything, what people should see this as is inevitable. Thats a pretty fitting word right now because yes this may be bad for the bw scene but all of this is pretty much a necessary evil anyway. Sc2 does not need bw to die for it to succeed but the issue between KeSPA and Blizzard over sc2 could not be solved without the solutions to that issue having secondary consequences to the bw scene. Blizzard was legitimately unhappy with KeSPA due to as Blizzard themselves state it their unwillingness to respect the IP and they decided that for sc2 they needed to take a stance and make the lines clear from the beginning to avoid this happening again later on. That decision by Blizzard was completely reasonable, KeSPA did not agree with this stance and thats their right, however it would not be possible for Blizzard to on one hand take this firm stand on sc2 without essentially making the same stand for all of their IP's. Ergo, here we are. In the end I don't think that in reality anything will actually change as far as the progamers and the spectators are concerned. The only people who this will affect are people with fancy titles who will now either make more or less money depending on who they work for. How am I creating a conflict? I'm just stating my opinion on an issue that I'm worried about. I think most people already saw Blizzard doing this a couple months ago, I just hoped it wouldn't happen (or it happened but Blizz left BW alone). Of course Blizz isn't out to kill one of its own games (it's out to kill Kespa of course) but right now the only thing holding BW alive is Kespa. After Kespa dies there won't be an organization that is magically going to arise and draw sponsors, hire progamers, pay the IP to Blizz, and start hosting Starleagues again (at least I can't see this happening). To your last statement, I HOPE that this doesn't effect progamers and spectators but only time will tell.
You act like GOM TV has no experience running tournaments using blizzard's software. KeSPA and others will make deals with GOM TV. It's not rocket surgery to keep their tournaments running.
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On May 28 2010 16:11 Psiclone wrote:
How does this legally work? Just because you buy a Spalding basketball doesn't mean they have control of NBA games. You pay your $60 for a game why don't 3rd parties have the rights to make video of consenting parties playing it?
Because you don't own the game. You purchased a license to use the software. Should read the EULA when you get a chance next time you agree to it. You'll be amazed at how much control software makers put over their products.
+ Show Spoiler +http://www.artistshousemusic.org/videos/video+games+and+copyright+law
You could start up your own basketball league. Nobody is gonna stop you. GL with it.
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On May 28 2010 16:11 Psiclone wrote:
How does this legally work? Just because you buy a Spalding basketball doesn't mean they have control of NBA games. You pay your $60 for a game why don't 3rd parties have the rights to make video of consenting parties playing it?
the guys who invented basketball are long dead?
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