And those companies would move on to another game once the lifespan runs out in 2-3 years. What players would want to practice 12 hours a day for 4 years to get good enough to play when the game only lasts 3? You'd have "pro-gamers" playing the new game but they won't be anywhere near as good as Jaedong or flash. They'd be on the level of Nony or Idra or Day9, which is basically trash play compared to the Top players in korea. Its like comparing a minor league team to the yankees. What would you rather watch? Yankees or the Brooklyn cyclones?
What makes you think SC2 will have a lifespan of 2-3 years? That's a pretty pessimistic view on the future. If that's true then none of this will matter.
I stand corrected though on the foreign companies able to sponsor leagues/teams thingy as someone pointed out. I still think foreign companies might be more willing to invest in a scene run in a mature scene set up by GOM(backed by Blizzard) than a KeSPA one considering its' poor and shady reputation. Not to mention one that is broadcasted globally. I could be wrong though.
On May 28 2010 03:02 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I don't get all the happiness in this thread at all.
Well, if you only care about SC2 it's a great announcement. GOMTV broadcasts in english over the internet, so we will have professionally done SC2 tournaments targeted at a foreign audience right from the start.
And those companies would move on to another game once the lifespan runs out in 2-3 years. What players would want to practice 12 hours a day for 4 years to get good enough to play when the game only lasts 3? You'd have "pro-gamers" playing the new game but they won't be anywhere near as good as Jaedong or flash. They'd be on the level of Nony or Idra or Day9, which is basically trash play compared to the Top players in korea. Its like comparing a minor league team to the yankees. What would you rather watch? Yankees or the Brooklyn cyclones?
What makes you think SC2 will have a lifespan of 2-3 years? That's a pretty pessimistic view on the future. If that's true then none of this will matter.
I stand corrected though on the foreign companies able to sponsor leagues/teams thingy as someone pointed out. I still think foreign companies might be more willing to invest in a scene run in a mature scene set up by GOM(backed by Blizzard) than a KeSPA one considering its' poor and shady reputation. Not to mention one that is broadcasted globally. I could be wrong though.
Look at WCG and company sponsors of those games. Once the game gets too old, it gets thrown down the funnel.
On May 28 2010 03:02 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I don't get all the happiness in this thread at all.
News that Korean SC2 leagues/tournaments will be casted in a time when is was uncertain if there were to be any at all. This is good news for us who want to watch SC2.
The future of BW is uncertain but many aren't that concerned about BW at this point.
In what way are major sponsors more interested in a korean exclusive league compared to a global league?
How on earth do people come to the conclusion that GOMTV/Blizzard won't pick up any major sponsors, when the sponsors main objective for these types of of events is to get maximum exposure.
Global exposure compared to national exposure.. hmmm.
And to people who think the SC2 scene will be dead in 2-3 years, you seriously think the game will just die as the last expansion hits the stores? I don't see Blizzard messing up THAT badly.
a good analogy is the starwars movies. the latest 3 sucked. we all know this. they still did really really well and made millions of dollars. they were pretty shit movies but they came out with their fan base already established. starcraft has this going for it as well. It could die off for a year, but to say it will have no pro scene or no one caring is just ignorance.
I don't like that analogy, lol. Brand alone doesn't make a good e-sport game but thats too offtopic now i think. Also i didn't mean no proscene at all, just no big pro scene in korea like with wc3.
On May 28 2010 03:02 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I don't get all the happiness in this thread at all.
Well, if you only care about SC2 it's a great announcement. GOMTV broadcasts in english over the internet, so we will have professionally done SC2 tournaments targeted at a foreign audience right from the start.
...it just might kill SC:BW in the process :/
Yes some people will care about SC2. For me, it isn't about SC2 or one game.For me, its about watching the best play. I want to watch players who dedicate their lives to training for this game. I want to watch the best possible micro, macro, multi-tasking and decision making possible. I want to see as close to a perfect game as possible.
I think it would be of Blizzard best interest to inject some money to jumpstart the proscene of SC2 in Korea (and thus the rest of the world will follow suite). What do you guys think?
On May 28 2010 03:02 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I don't get all the happiness in this thread at all.
News that Korean SC2 leagues/tournaments will be casted in a time when is was uncertain if there were to be any at all. This is good news for us who want to watch SC2.
The future of BW is uncertain but many aren't that concerned about BW at this point.
Uncertain? You are talking about a sequel to the most popular RTS of all time. SC2 would be casted regardless. It remains to be seen how long though. Some same a few years; some think it could last 4-5 (as in, when the next best thing comes out).
You are in essence on a BW community website. This could be very bad news to the rest of us who follow BW regularly. /facepalm
On May 28 2010 03:12 Senx wrote: In what way are major sponsors more interested in a korean exclusive league compared to a global league?
How on earth do people come to the conclusion that GOMTV/Blizzard won't pick up any major sponsors, when the sponsors main objective for these types of of events is to get maximum exposure.
Global exposure compared to national exposure.. hmmm.
And to people who think the SC2 scene will be dead in 2-3 years, you seriously think the game will just die as the last expansion hits the stores? I don't see Blizzard messing up THAT badly.
There are major sponsors of games right now. Microsoft, Intel, HP, and other companies are doling out tens of thousands of dollars on prize money. That isn't the problem. The problem is that these sponsors move on to the newest game pretty quickly. Money dries out for old games. If you have companies changing their sponsoring lineup every 2-3 years, then players won't be willing to dedicate as hard to training. All their previous practice will be wasted when a new game comes out.
Uncertain? You are talking about a sequel to the most popular RTS of all time. SC2 would be casted regardless. It remains to be seen how long though. Some same a few years; some think it could last 4-5 (as in, when the next best thing comes out).
You are in essence on a BW community website. This could be very bad news to the rest of us who follow BW regularly. /facepalm
Yes, it is at this point uncertain. Do you disagree?
And it's true this is a BW community site but it is now also the hub for the western SC2 community. Of course there are people unhappy with this, I've never said otherwise, but many are delighted about the news that professional SC2 will be casted at release. That's what Nazgul asked.
On May 28 2010 02:32 Nilaus wrote: I don't understand the whole "BW is dead" argument.
The companies sponsoring the teams are not doing it out of patriotism or "for the good of e-sports". They do it because they make money.
What planet have you been living on? It's been said many times: they are barely making anything. They do it for publicity and advertising. It is a cultural phenomena. The money they do make is indirect.
Worst case: Blizzard takes over everything and hoards it like a selfish child with a new toy, cracked servers pop up everywhere and foreign countries ignore Blizz and host tourneys anyways.
Read your first sentence over again and perhaps you should rewrite it because that isn't what you said. I'm telling you SC2 would have been picked up regardless. The only uncertainty is how long it will last and lots of followers are skeptical of its lasting appeal. That is what I said.
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