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bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
May 27 2010 06:30 GMT
#301
If GOM continues to provide free online streams, I am all for this move. They were the only ones actively trying to market SC to an international audience and they deserve this reward. If MBC and OGN cannot make as much money in the past, they can blame it on themselves and KESPA, with this deal they could still be allowed to market SC as an esport and that is more than a generous deal coming from Blizzard.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
May 27 2010 06:32 GMT
#302
On May 27 2010 15:30 bubblegumbo wrote:
If GOM continues to provide free online streams, I am all for this move. They were the only ones actively trying to market SC to an international audience and they deserve this reward. If MBC and OGN cannot make as much money in the past, they can blame it on themselves and KESPA, with this deal they could still be allowed to market SC as an esport and that is more than a generous deal coming from Blizzard.


yeah that would be nice, but i think gom will take fees. i mean how will they pay blizzard otherwise and i am sure they have to pay blizzard for the "exclusive rights" otherwise kespa would have just made the deal with blizzard.
in the end its all about the money.
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 07:26:10
May 27 2010 06:34 GMT
#303
I applaud Blizzard 110%. Such chutzpa, such moxie, such manballs!

Looking forward to Korean games with English commentary - Tasteless???
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
ComradeDover
Profile Joined November 2009
Bulgaria758 Posts
May 27 2010 06:41 GMT
#304
This can only be good. It means SC2 tournament broadcasts have a home in Korean TV.

I don't see this as threatening Brood War broadcasting at all. Even though those rights are mentioned in the OP, Blizzard already disaproves of what KeSPA has been doing with Brood War and has done everything in their power to stop them. This doesn't change anything in that regard.
Bring back 2v2s!
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
May 27 2010 06:48 GMT
#305
Interesting move. Using GOM as a Korean company to get a foot in the door of Korean law. I guess the courts are gonna have some work to do on this one.

Let's hope the dust will just settle into place with broodwar still running like it does now.
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tenpromicro
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States119 Posts
May 27 2010 06:56 GMT
#306
On May 27 2010 14:35 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2010 14:33 tenpromicro wrote:
The biggest question here is if this contract is enforceable under Korean law. If not, there was absolutely NO point in the contract at all.

The biggest issue with KeSPA illegally selling Blizzard's intellectual property was that Blizzard could not sue KeSPA because the Korean government refused to deal with Blizzard.

If KeSPA continues to operate SC2 as it did with SC1 and if Blizzard can't stop KeSPA, then we're back to square 1 again.

KeSPA still can probably do what they want under Korean law with BW, but it's not the same with SC2 because they removed LAN and you need to deal with international law to play without LAN.
If Blizzard ruins the leagues I will never buy anything from them again.


How do you need international law to play without LAN?

Blizzard doesn't own the internet. Unless they decide to ban all Korean IPs from connecting to BNet, how can Blizzard stop KeSPA from doing whatever they want with SC2?
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
May 27 2010 06:56 GMT
#307
honestly, this is so awesome. this gives gomTV essentially the capability to become a huge deal and in that way promote eSports all over the world, unlike OGN and MBCG, who were entirely focused on the korean market (for obvious reasons). With kespa out of the way, this can only mean good things for the pro gamers as well.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 27 2010 06:58 GMT
#308
On May 27 2010 15:12 Go0g3n wrote:
A few things to consider:

1. Everything that's now happening with StarCraft II already happened with WarCraft III before and right after release. It also was a brand new exciting game with new graphics, new B.net features, new editor and so on so forth. It had LAN, 4 Realms. Blizzard swore they would add custom maps to the roster, - you know what happened later, the game basically died after 2-3 years, now HoN + Dota are 10 times more popular. (btw War 3 didn't sell that well either).

2. Blizzard has never ever done anything to properly support any of their games with the exception of WoW. Patches were always late and buggy, they never updated or reworked Battle.net, next to 0 counter-abuse and all the rest of it.

3. Everything that was done around Diablo II, StarCraft, War III and partially WoW was done by community using an open source element put in all those games and/or resources around the game, it was done by community only and never supported by Blizzard in any way, often attempted to destroy by the same old Blizz.

Verdict: Blizzard makes decent (some say great) games, which is more than true. However, they are completely useless as community organizers, activists or supporters, - the role they've taken onto themselves in the past and failed miserably, the role they are taking onto themselves once again: from all the B.net 2.0/Editor/Publishing/Lan/Realms/Private Data limitations to all the GOM/KeSPA stuff. They simply do not know how it's done.
Pretty much this. My gut says this is all going to end horribly and we're all going to lose out because of it.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 07:03:48
May 27 2010 07:01 GMT
#309
I am deeply confused whether this is a good thing or bad.

EDIT: Just read the quoted post above this one. I guess...

"WE'RE SCREWED!"
-Terran Reaper
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
May 27 2010 07:02 GMT
#310
Hahahah this is going to be a nuclear explosion man... WW3 over SC2 gogo! I'm really sad that blizzard is, in essence, going to destroy SC1 leagues
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
May 27 2010 07:21 GMT
#311
i think this is great news. improvement always requires change. without change there can be no development. granted, deterioration also requires change.
but who of us can say that they were truly happy with kespa?

i think things can only get better from now on. if they will, though, will still depend on kespa. if they go on zealot mode over this things could turn out ugly, but that would also make them hypocrites.

win-win situation for me.

GO TASTELESS!!!!!!!
"I fart a lot, often on my gf in bed, then we roll around laughing for 5 mins choking in gas." — exog // "…be'master, the art of reflection. If you are not a thinking man, to what purpose are you a man at all?" — S. T. Coleridge
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 07:32:02
May 27 2010 07:26 GMT
#312
What a huge load of shit. I can't believe anyone of you falls for this haha. Blizzard is just gonna kill Esports or crash into it and fail miserably.

People outside Korea don't give a shit about Esports. They don't even know what the fuck it is.

And Blizzard is exactly same in that respect. They have not the slightest clue.

And I never liked GOM either. (Nothing against Tasteless).

Also, I wish TL news writers make a news post on Korean pro gaming, because it seems with the recent influx of new people, most of people posting in SC2 forums have no clue what Pro gaming is, how Korea is and how esport scene works.

Actually explaining all this to most people posting in this thread would be very beneficial. It's starting to get extreemly annoying, seeing any random westerner coming here and giving his opinion thinking he knows.

Auronz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil119 Posts
May 27 2010 07:27 GMT
#313
This is great, might increase the player's situation. We'll have Tasteless casting probably every game which is FUCKIN AWESOME and Blizzard will get their royalties. Besides, KESPA is a corrupt mess, it's fine with me.
KingPants
Profile Joined December 2008
United States54 Posts
May 27 2010 07:28 GMT
#314
On May 27 2010 14:19 Go0g3n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2010 14:12 KingPants wrote:
On May 27 2010 14:09 Go0g3n wrote:
On May 27 2010 13:59 antelope591 wrote:
On May 27 2010 12:46 Milkis wrote:
Congratulations, e-Sports. You survived all those little bumps that you went on, survived the winds that tried to topple you, survived a match rigging scandal that rival's MLB's steroid use. All that, to fall to a blizzard.

Who the fuck is blizzard to offer a grace period. What is with this retarded, arrogant attitude that makes them pretend SC is good because "they designed it that way"? No, SC is good because of sheer, dumb luck, not because of your retarded balance team. Intellectual property? more like sheer unadulterated arrogance.

gg.


I think the "dumb luck" argument is stupid because Blizzard is the ONLY company who can seemingly make an RTS that is both extremely popular and able to be played a high competitive level. They did it with Starcraft (most successful "e-sport" game ever), Warcraft 3 (obviously not as succesful but still 1000x more so than any other RTS) and now will do it again with Starcraft 2. 3 RTS which can be played as an esport is not dumb luck when no other company has even come close to making one. Blizzard obv knows wtf they're doing in designing games and have absolutely no competition in their field so why do people act like its so bad for them to want to take a big piece of the pie?


Blizzard isn't really making good games, they are making good platforms which later allow players to shape games to their liking, this happened with SC, War 3 and partially with WoW, - basically decent games with good open dev kits.


So the people who created the gameplay did not create the gameplay? Your position is baffling.


Only partially. They didn't know about half the SCBW mechanics and techniques used today, most of them are just bugs; not once have they properly balanced a game, SCBW was balanced by custom maps and mechanics, War III still isn't, same goes for Diablo II, WoW (in a way) and so on.

Plus, not to forget an awful support for every single game with the exception of WoW.

You assume that they didn't decide which bugs were beneficial and which were disadvantageous. If you look at the patch notes they did fix a lot of bugs and decided not to fix the ones you that you claim are in the game in spite of their design. I feel that you underestimate their involvement in the content of the game.
Lazix
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia378 Posts
May 27 2010 07:32 GMT
#315
What the hell did KeSPA expect?

Whether you like it or not (and for better or worse) Starcraft is Blizzard's IP and theirs alone. Blizzard have every right to want full control over THEIR product, and KeSPA has absolutely no claim to it whatsoever.

The shit has hit the fan because of KeSPA. Blizzard gave them a chance to work with them, but for whatever knucklehead reason thought they could continue to make money off of Starcraft without the IP holder's consent.

And for those who say Blizzard is just in this for the money - guess what? So is KeSPA. The only sure thing to come out of this is this battle is going to be bad for e-Sports in Korea, but I don't blame Blizzard for acting like a business. I blame KeSPA for acting like a illegitimate one.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 07:35:12
May 27 2010 07:33 GMT
#316
How can anyone of you ditch MBC and OGN's work for fucking gom's amateurship ?

Oh my god, this turning into a nightmare.

EDIT : Well I guess Blizzard's profits are safe for a while seeing how their minions most of you are.
ibutoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Australia341 Posts
May 27 2010 07:33 GMT
#317
Wonder if this is something that Tasteless hinted at in his recent interview with artosis. Mentioned some big projects in the future. Look forward to the Plott brothers casting sc2 together.
Nada got Yooned
snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 07:40:26
May 27 2010 07:34 GMT
#318
I'm surprised that people are expecting the worst with regard to BW. To me this looks like a thinly disguised compromise: GOMTV is owned by CJ, one of the KeSPA companies. GOM is explicitly allowed to make deals with OGN and MBC, other KeSPA companies. I expect GOM to become the SC2 channel, while OGN and MBC reach an easy agreement with their business partner and continue broadcasting BW.

If anything, this is more worrisome for the development of the SC2 scene, what with this new GOMTV model and Blizzard having more control. BW will probably stay the same.

Of course, if SC2 is a smashing success maybe they'll all switch over to the new game, but I could easily see it going the other way -- SC2 has a short run, then eventually dies out and GOM moves on to other things, while OGN and MBC weather the storm and BW stays.
NaDa. Our Lord and sAviOr shall return. Learn to nydus you scrub
Me1234
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany219 Posts
May 27 2010 07:34 GMT
#319
Great News
Uhm?
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
May 27 2010 07:36 GMT
#320
Result of this

Blizzard got their shair of the pie, either way, kespa can choose between less profit and no profit.
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