Profit of course.
But through what route?
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Profit of course. But through what route? | ||
Tankbusta
United States109 Posts
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waffling1
599 Posts
기존에 기반이 있는 방송사들은 무시할 수 없지만 여기에 개스파 이야기는 없음 ㅇㅇㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 근데 곰티비 해설진들 실력이 너무 개 똥망이라 >> You can't ignore the broadcasting stations with firm foundations but there's no Kespa talk here looooooool but GomTV commentators's skills are dogshit dog "shit" was translated here when "crap" would have sufficed, but "ㅄ같은 해설 듣게 생겼네" Sigh we are going to hear retarded comments from commentators now ㅅㅂ's can only be translated as "fuck", and it got nerfed into "sigh" | ||
supernovamaniac
United States3046 Posts
On May 27 2010 13:51 waffling1 wrote: iinteresting Show nested quote + 기존에 기반이 있는 방송사들은 무시할 수 없지만 여기에 개스파 이야기는 없음 ㅇㅇㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 근데 곰티비 해설진들 실력이 너무 개 똥망이라 >> You can't ignore the broadcasting stations with firm foundations but there's no Kespa talk here looooooool but GomTV commentators's skills are dogshit dog "shit" was translated here when "crap" would have sufficed, but ㅅㅂ's can only be translated as "fuck", and it got nerfed into "sigh" Wrong. It wasn't ㅅㅂ, it was ㅄ. ㅄ can be translated as retarded | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
I doubt OGN and MBC are going to just roll over and take this. | ||
Radio.active
United States121 Posts
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antelope591
Canada820 Posts
On May 27 2010 12:46 Milkis wrote: Congratulations, e-Sports. You survived all those little bumps that you went on, survived the winds that tried to topple you, survived a match rigging scandal that rival's MLB's steroid use. All that, to fall to a blizzard. Who the fuck is blizzard to offer a grace period. What is with this retarded, arrogant attitude that makes them pretend SC is good because "they designed it that way"? No, SC is good because of sheer, dumb luck, not because of your retarded balance team. Intellectual property? more like sheer unadulterated arrogance. gg. I think the "dumb luck" argument is stupid because Blizzard is the ONLY company who can seemingly make an RTS that is both extremely popular and able to be played a high competitive level. They did it with Starcraft (most successful "e-sport" game ever), Warcraft 3 (obviously not as succesful but still 1000x more so than any other RTS) and now will do it again with Starcraft 2. 3 RTS which can be played as an esport is not dumb luck when no other company has even come close to making one. Blizzard obv knows wtf they're doing in designing games and have absolutely no competition in their field so why do people act like its so bad for them to want to take a big piece of the pie? | ||
bovi
Japan208 Posts
is GOMtv pay per view? if not it might be. also be prepared to say goodbye to all your free live steams from Korea (mystlord, kanata etc). TL might be charged to have any BW content. dont even need to talk about SC2. streams and replays will thus all need to be licensed/purchased from GomTV / Blizzard. Blizzard has not been able to replicate the success of KESPA to any degree in other countries and now their destroying the organisation structure of something that made BW a wholewide hit. Talk about ungrateful. if not for korea's bw success, i doubt any of us will still be so involved in the game. With GomTV being a monopoly, there will probably be just 2 leagues individual and a team league. By having to pay a fee to GomTV (and probably have to defer timings to GomTV's own competitions), the cost for OGN or MBCGame to host a competition is going to put extra burden on them. They will either have to find more sponsorship $ or reduce the amount shared with players/teams. Or GomTV could do it the lazy way and simply not create any leagues of their own and simply wait for OGN/MBC to come to them. essentially just trying to take a cut w/o adding any extra value. We might have to say goodbye to Nal_ra's old boy, hyungjun becomes a progamer, after talk or any such programs since OGN/MBC will be further burdened financially. I would love to know what Kim Carrier, Kingdom, Nal_ra and the big fella has to say about this. Wonder if the next episode of After talk will focus on this. I don't see how anyone can think it will be a smooth transition or a even achieve success near the same level from the get go. It might be successful if the players in general get better salaries/prize money w/o squeezing the sponsors and fans. but that seems unlikely. SC's success mirrors that of football / Champions league/ the world cup. unless you distribute the revenue equitably to players/teams instead of relying on their sponsors, then its gonna hurt players/teams/fans - the very people who make SC an esport. Once you start introducing pay per view, fans are gonna leave. and the word exclusive almost always results in pay per view someway or another. | ||
jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
push has come to shove. i hope you enjoyed your run | ||
Go0g3n
Russian Federation410 Posts
On May 27 2010 13:59 antelope591 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2010 12:46 Milkis wrote: Congratulations, e-Sports. You survived all those little bumps that you went on, survived the winds that tried to topple you, survived a match rigging scandal that rival's MLB's steroid use. All that, to fall to a blizzard. Who the fuck is blizzard to offer a grace period. What is with this retarded, arrogant attitude that makes them pretend SC is good because "they designed it that way"? No, SC is good because of sheer, dumb luck, not because of your retarded balance team. Intellectual property? more like sheer unadulterated arrogance. gg. I think the "dumb luck" argument is stupid because Blizzard is the ONLY company who can seemingly make an RTS that is both extremely popular and able to be played a high competitive level. They did it with Starcraft (most successful "e-sport" game ever), Warcraft 3 (obviously not as succesful but still 1000x more so than any other RTS) and now will do it again with Starcraft 2. 3 RTS which can be played as an esport is not dumb luck when no other company has even come close to making one. Blizzard obv knows wtf they're doing in designing games and have absolutely no competition in their field so why do people act like its so bad for them to want to take a big piece of the pie? Blizzard isn't really making good games, they are making good platforms which later allow players to shape games to their liking, this happened with SC, War 3 and partially with WoW, - basically decent games with good open dev kits. | ||
0neder
United States3733 Posts
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iamho
United States3345 Posts
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KingPants
United States54 Posts
On May 27 2010 14:09 Go0g3n wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2010 13:59 antelope591 wrote: On May 27 2010 12:46 Milkis wrote: Congratulations, e-Sports. You survived all those little bumps that you went on, survived the winds that tried to topple you, survived a match rigging scandal that rival's MLB's steroid use. All that, to fall to a blizzard. Who the fuck is blizzard to offer a grace period. What is with this retarded, arrogant attitude that makes them pretend SC is good because "they designed it that way"? No, SC is good because of sheer, dumb luck, not because of your retarded balance team. Intellectual property? more like sheer unadulterated arrogance. gg. I think the "dumb luck" argument is stupid because Blizzard is the ONLY company who can seemingly make an RTS that is both extremely popular and able to be played a high competitive level. They did it with Starcraft (most successful "e-sport" game ever), Warcraft 3 (obviously not as succesful but still 1000x more so than any other RTS) and now will do it again with Starcraft 2. 3 RTS which can be played as an esport is not dumb luck when no other company has even come close to making one. Blizzard obv knows wtf they're doing in designing games and have absolutely no competition in their field so why do people act like its so bad for them to want to take a big piece of the pie? Blizzard isn't really making good games, they are making good platforms which later allow players to shape games to their liking, this happened with SC, War 3 and partially with WoW, - basically decent games with good open dev kits. So the people who created the gameplay did not create the gameplay? Your position is baffling. | ||
Hirmu
Finland850 Posts
Anyways thanks for translation. | ||
Motiva
United States1774 Posts
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
On May 27 2010 14:09 Go0g3n wrote: Blizzard isn't really making good games, they are making good platforms which later allow players to shape games to their liking, this happened with SC, War 3 and partially with WoW, - basically decent games with good open dev kits. How are LittleBigPlanet and Wii Music doing? Household names, I'm sure. | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On May 27 2010 13:47 Waxangel wrote: all of you guys who are wondering/arguing about copyrights laws, that's why there's a possibility there will be a lawsuit so we find out where everything REALLY stands ![]() That could either save esports or kill it. I think starcraft has entered new territory with regards to games, it's been played so much and in a way so far beyond what was originally intended, that it seems like it shouldn't just fall into any pre-existing category of intellectual property with regards to games. I don't know anything about the law though, so I couldn't say. All I know is that Blizzard running esports means the death of esports. Blizzard is a company that makes games, they don't have any practice with esports. Their focus is split. | ||
Go0g3n
Russian Federation410 Posts
On May 27 2010 14:12 KingPants wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2010 14:09 Go0g3n wrote: On May 27 2010 13:59 antelope591 wrote: On May 27 2010 12:46 Milkis wrote: Congratulations, e-Sports. You survived all those little bumps that you went on, survived the winds that tried to topple you, survived a match rigging scandal that rival's MLB's steroid use. All that, to fall to a blizzard. Who the fuck is blizzard to offer a grace period. What is with this retarded, arrogant attitude that makes them pretend SC is good because "they designed it that way"? No, SC is good because of sheer, dumb luck, not because of your retarded balance team. Intellectual property? more like sheer unadulterated arrogance. gg. I think the "dumb luck" argument is stupid because Blizzard is the ONLY company who can seemingly make an RTS that is both extremely popular and able to be played a high competitive level. They did it with Starcraft (most successful "e-sport" game ever), Warcraft 3 (obviously not as succesful but still 1000x more so than any other RTS) and now will do it again with Starcraft 2. 3 RTS which can be played as an esport is not dumb luck when no other company has even come close to making one. Blizzard obv knows wtf they're doing in designing games and have absolutely no competition in their field so why do people act like its so bad for them to want to take a big piece of the pie? Blizzard isn't really making good games, they are making good platforms which later allow players to shape games to their liking, this happened with SC, War 3 and partially with WoW, - basically decent games with good open dev kits. So the people who created the gameplay did not create the gameplay? Your position is baffling. Only partially. They didn't know about half the SCBW mechanics and techniques used today, most of them are just bugs; not once have they properly balanced a game, SCBW was balanced by custom maps and mechanics, War III still isn't, same goes for Diablo II, WoW (in a way) and so on. Plus, not to forget an awful support for every single game with the exception of WoW. | ||
Day[9]
United States7366 Posts
OMG this is such wonderful news! At the very least, my brother might have a job! Time to call I suppose! :D :D :D | ||
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