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haitike
Spain2722 Posts
On May 21 2010 12:41 Foreplay wrote: and god i wish they would stop changing hotkeys around just so zerg can select all warpgates. NO ZERG IS MIND CONTROLLING A PROBE AND TECHING TO WARPGATES But there are a posibbility that happens so the change is needed. | ||
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grog
Turkey37 Posts
On May 21 2010 17:26 MasterFischer wrote: Can anybody tell me how big of a difference the updated matchmkaing and league/ladders system works? Did they do a full reset? Why haven't the EU gotten this patch yet ./ Yes someone pls? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 21 2010 17:20 HubertFelix wrote: People who talk about overseer solving the 200/200 problem (if there is) : Infested terran cost 125 mana And Contaminate costs 75. You will lose fights at 200/200, but Zerg also already has the easiest means to reinforce, given that you can save larvae, now coupled with the ability to stop the opponent's reinforcements for basically an entire production cycle. | ||
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s031720
Sweden383 Posts
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dezi
Germany1536 Posts
No - i'm at home. | ||
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Cloak
United States816 Posts
On May 21 2010 17:26 Johoseph wrote: ^^^ Probably the same people who told Zerg to suck it up when Roaches went 2 food. Regardless of previous balance, a tier 1 unit doubling in supply cost is a far larger change to balance than -1 range on a VR and weak ass ultralisks trampling your FFs. ^^^ Probably an idiot. I'm not particularly in favor of that Roach nerf. | ||
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treason
Germany72 Posts
Patch Ever | ||
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Kantutan
Canada1319 Posts
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
On May 21 2010 12:36 Tsagacity wrote: And with only 25 energy cost, actually using frenzy is just going to remind me of bloodlust spam in war3 =/ I definitely don't like the idea of buffs in Starcraft. Yeah stimpack is a lame ability. REMOVE STIMPACK! | ||
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Illuminaire
Germany11 Posts
On May 21 2010 16:20 fathead wrote: I'm not sure what to make of the Ult "buff"? Ults have always done absolutely insane damage, the problem was their awesome ability to melt. Now they melt 25% faster. The sad part is it's even more than 25%. Actually it's 50%. Where previously you would have to shoot, for example, 12 seconds, now you only have to shoot 9 seconds with the same damage output. That makes it 50% faster than before. I quite agree that instead of a damage boost, ultras seem to need a more "tankish" feel in my eyes. As of now they are huge and always seem to get cluttered moving up an down the front lines and dying before actually doing damage. The 2 other comparable units, Thor and Colossus, have similiar health pools with ranged attacks. Thor losing 50 health with range 7/11 and Colossus losing 100 health for a range of 9. Theres a reason ALL other melee units have more health per minerals than ranged units. 4 Zerglings=140 health/100 mins 2 Marines =90 health/100 mins 1 Zealot =150 health/100 mins I could go on with Hydras, Tanks, and roaches, but I think it's intuitive, that the less range you have, the more health you should have. There is also no good way to heal a wounded Ultra, except building queens for healing(which isnt't to effective). I thinks that's always a viable concern with units that have a large health pools. The Thor can be repaired, and a colossus will at least regain 150 shield after damaged. If your "tanks" are down to 20 Life, and are blocking 18 Supply and will insta die in the next attack, that's not pretty. Makes retreating even more costly, coz any wounded ultra needs like 5 minutes to get back to full health. Further, the Thor needs no upgrade, and Colossus needs 1 upgrade to really shine, whereas the ultra needs 2 upgrades to be . . .well, still useless =) The weak ultra really is bugging me (besides the cutting of my favourite unit the lurker^^) since beta started. . . well, we have to see how the patch plays out. Maybe they hit the spot this time. PS: Did anyone notice that it's strange that they nerfed 250mm cannon and Neural Parasite and STILL create a new spell that makes the ultra immune to those effects? I think the frenzy spell alone would have sufficed without those nerfs. Its also a more elegant solution creating a skillful new ability to complement to units and reward skill, than nerfing 2 good spells at the time for 1 underused unit. | ||
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Rodiel
France573 Posts
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Grape
145 Posts
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renshank
United States41 Posts
Looks like we have more Terrible, Terrible Damage. Also, we have some awesome new spells to play around with. Specific notes re:Terrible, Terrible Damage are as follows. Ultra: 15 + 25 to armored AOE. Definitely T,TD. Frenzy: Will cause things to do even more T,TD. Banelings with Frenzy: Just plain awesome. Fully upped vs. fully upped or completely unupped vs. completely unupped, they will kill marines in one shot. Totally unupgraded, two with frenzy will kill hydras. Good times. I loves me some Terrible, Terrible Damage. I think... | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
On May 21 2010 17:36 Kashll wrote: Yeah stimpack is a lame ability. REMOVE STIMPACK! Didn't you know, Stimpack was first introduced in WC3.. even tho WC3 came out 4 years after BW! | ||
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zak
Korea (South)1009 Posts
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Pekkz
Norway1505 Posts
The problem with ultralisk was that it was too hard to get it up close without dieing. It was allready a massive unit, so it wouldnt get slowed by anything. Blizzard now nerfed hp, and buffed dmg, this only means it can get kited and killed even easier by marauders. The problem was never its damage, its damange was great, and 450 hp is only gonna screw it over even more. The problem was getting all the upgrades that you NEED before you get em, and then they cost shitloads of gass. One of their +armor or speed should be by default, that would help them more then anything. | ||
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WoKKeLs
Netherlands65 Posts
 about time they were bit more usefull then just observer | ||
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Setz3R
United States455 Posts
On May 21 2010 17:41 zak wrote: cant wait to try some maddening 3v3s and 4v4s I would have liked to try this, but with these strange and some of them out of context changes, 4s will be really hectic to play, its not like 2v2 isn't already hectic :\. | ||
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Johoseph
United States49 Posts
On May 21 2010 17:30 Cloak wrote: ^^^ Probably an idiot. I'm not particularly in favor of that Roach nerf. Zomg!!! He copied the format of my post to make himself look clever!! Seriously, overreaction central. Other races were buffed, yours received -1 range on a unit, and a change to FF that will only affect PvZ (Thor in PvT? lol) IF they actually make some shitty 450 hp ultras that cost 300/200 and 6 supply. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. And Contaminate costs 75. You will lose fights at 200/200, but Zerg also already has the easiest means to reinforce, given that you can save larvae, now coupled with the ability to stop the opponent's reinforcements for basically an entire production cycle. Don't worry, we're already going the WoW route with the game, we'll have diminishing returns on contaminate in patch 14, and a "Sated" debuff on previously Frenzied units in patch 15. | ||
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
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Protoss only wins half the tournaments and is very successful at pro levels! What am I supposed to do with this terrible race?
