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[EP5] State of the Game SC2 Beta Podcast - "Fin" - Page 3

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Redundant
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2 Posts
May 20 2010 14:29 GMT
#41
Thanks for making this great show, JP.

Sad to see things come to a temporary end, hopefully the second phase of beta doesn't take too long to start up. I'll be eagerly waiting for episode six.
Deleted User 39582
Profile Joined August 2008
317 Posts
May 20 2010 14:33 GMT
#42
On May 20 2010 23:12 Madkipz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 23:05 QuasiMachina wrote:
On May 20 2010 22:41 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Well instead of making them 1.5 food, just buff them again so they are worth 2 food.

but they're hatchery tech. What's the point of hydras?


anti air, longer range, more damage.

but if roaches get buffed, won't everyone just go back to using nothing but roaches? It seems to me one sollution may be to buff hydras
Goatlust
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia131 Posts
May 20 2010 15:22 GMT
#43
Great cast as always. Keep up the good work gentlemen.
Oracle
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada411 Posts
May 20 2010 15:25 GMT
#44
That was hilarious, more please!
Happy.fairytail
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States327 Posts
May 20 2010 15:31 GMT
#45
lol ... give ultralisks snowplows to push around forcefields, awesome

interesting note by artosis that he finds marine/tank/banshees unstoppable... feels like kind of a nonintuitive combination, and definitely not something i would feel comfortable massing up (the banshees that is)
Lollersauce
Profile Joined April 2010
United States357 Posts
May 20 2010 15:32 GMT
#46
great podcast.
CandleJack
Profile Joined March 2010
United States104 Posts
May 20 2010 15:34 GMT
#47
Great stuff JP, can't wait for more of these after release.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
May 20 2010 15:35 GMT
#48
Day9s laughing outbursts at artosis' comments on the asia servers were so telling :D
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 15:38:00
May 20 2010 15:37 GMT
#49
On May 20 2010 23:33 QuasiMachina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 23:12 Madkipz wrote:
On May 20 2010 23:05 QuasiMachina wrote:
On May 20 2010 22:41 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Well instead of making them 1.5 food, just buff them again so they are worth 2 food.

but they're hatchery tech. What's the point of hydras?


anti air, longer range, more damage.

but if roaches get buffed, won't everyone just go back to using nothing but roaches? It seems to me one sollution may be to buff hydras


Given how much they have been nerfed from being ridiculous meat shields, it would be an easy way to do it rather than moving them to 1.5 food. I mean, there was the Organic Carapace and other stuff that got removed from the roach.

Plus do you really want the zerg to make 2 roaches from each larva? Think about that late game.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Marine/Raven Guide:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163605
Jayde
Profile Joined July 2009
Marshall Islands104 Posts
May 20 2010 15:45 GMT
#50
Thanks for the podcast and good luck on whatever you are doing for the next few weeks!

And yes, this podcast is absolutely hilarious--so much laughing :D
Starcraft: Brood War <3
Happy.fairytail
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States327 Posts
May 20 2010 15:55 GMT
#51
I really liked 1:05:45 where Artosis says "man anyone is a protoss player, that race is SO easy" and there's like this uncomfortable 2 second pause, and then Day9 just incredulously cracks up not believing what he just heard
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
May 20 2010 15:58 GMT
#52
well done, liked it a lot
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 16:14:26
May 20 2010 16:02 GMT
#53
Day9 imitating Blizzard about the roach changes made me laugh so hard:

"We feel they're just a little too good at hive"
"We feel they just have a little too much armor"
"Alright look they're completely bullshit"

Also someone should mention to Day9 that mappers could just make the choke points 50% smaller rather than readjusting every unit .
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YJ_
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada36 Posts
May 20 2010 16:17 GMT
#54
How do I download this to my iphone is it on itunes?
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 16:39:11
May 20 2010 16:17 GMT
#55
On May 20 2010 23:33 QuasiMachina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 23:12 Madkipz wrote:
On May 20 2010 23:05 QuasiMachina wrote:
On May 20 2010 22:41 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Well instead of making them 1.5 food, just buff them again so they are worth 2 food.

but they're hatchery tech. What's the point of hydras?


anti air, longer range, more damage.

but if roaches get buffed, won't everyone just go back to using nothing but roaches? It seems to me one sollution may be to buff hydras


They both have different utilities.

Its not like roach, hydra was not the strategy you mainly used pre patch 12 nerf but with roaches at 2 supply instead of 1, it suddenly became this 200/200 weak unit that basically had too many counters to even remotely be considered effective en masse.

example, stimmed marauders and marines guarding a tank shelling cluster. Roaches take 20 damage from stimmed marauders and while they have hp to spare, the hydralisk takes 10 damage because it is not armored and suddenly does not die as easy as the roaches and becomes the tank of our comp.

thats why you wanted to mix them together, so you can counter both their +light damage units. Hellion, marine with roach and rest against hydralisk. With roaches at 2 supply, you simply wont have the endgame mass to fight equally against Terran mech, protoss collosii / immortal /templar and the roach with all its upgrades is viewed as more of a situational early game defensive unit.

This should not be, it has HIVE tech upgrades, therefore it should be a contender in 200 / 200 battles competing with Ultralisk and banelings for a spot inside the late late game stage.

Right now you can dismiss such notions almost instantly, as even banelings tank better for less supply.
"Mudkip"
HyruleanTubist
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States189 Posts
May 20 2010 16:33 GMT
#56
These podcasts make my day. Super cool to still hear my intro, too, thanks JP!
Auronz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil119 Posts
May 20 2010 17:00 GMT
#57
Cauthonluck is the Wraith Pilot!!!!!
numberThirtyOne
Profile Joined March 2008
United States294 Posts
May 20 2010 17:34 GMT
#58
I don't know about everyone else but once beta goes away, I'm going to need these casts more, not less. You don't need real news to talk about anyway, just have Artosis on to rage about his weak race while Day rofles at him. Then everyone just go around suggesting changes. Day proposing giving the 250mm strike cannon to the Ultra in Ep4 was one of the greatest moments of my life.
voIDRAys are the most bm unit in SC2
Tenda
Profile Joined October 2009
United States146 Posts
May 20 2010 17:52 GMT
#59
Arotosis: So have you actually succesfully stopped alot of terran timing pushes? or do you just like to see little green exploding balls.

Day[9]: ...i just feel neat...

haha that made me laugh so hard ^^
great podcast, i love all of the ridiculous tangents that they go off on. It's a shame we wont be seeing another one for a few weeks. im looking forward to these coming back.
pyr0ma5ta
Profile Joined May 2010
United States458 Posts
May 20 2010 17:53 GMT
#60
Cannonlisk made me laugh for about 10 minutes. Easily made it worth the time.
"I made you a zergling, but I eated it." - Defiler
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