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Episode 5: a bittersweet semi-end to what has now grown into a great podcast to be a part of -- something the community now 'owns'. It's been a weird and wild ride but I'm closing up shop for a couple of weeks as I have travel to California and then to Ohio for the start of the MLG PC Circuit.
This weeks podcast I think is the finest yet. It was definitely crazy and if you don't find yourself cracking a smile at least once I seriously question your sense of humor. Patch notes + a look back at the beta from all aspects are the topics. Also, forgive me for being insanely tired and forgetting which match-ups were discussed later on.
Also, if any Blizzard employees listen to this podcast, please do NOT take any of the suggestions from this cast. Except for the Ultralisk with cannons on its side. Do that. Thanks!
>>DOWNLOAD HERE<< || >>Alternative Link<< (Filefront)
Episode 5 Guests:
- JP McDaniel - Host / Former WoW Addict / Giant Nerd
- Sean "Day[9]" Plott - Co-host / Day[9] Dailies / Commentator / Town Drunk
- Dan "Artosis" Stemkosky - SCForAll.com / Commentator / Dr.Evil
- Tyler "Liquid`NonY" Wasieleski - SC1 Veteran / All-around badass
- Rori "Cluck" Bryant-Raible - WC3 Veteran / The Cluckiest Clucker Who Ever Clucked
This isn't goodbye, it is only a see you later. Till next time!
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JP here from MLG. If you haven't watched or seen MLG's Showcase Series, then you probably don't know me. If you have, thanks for watching!
A little about me...
+ Show Spoiler +While I don't intend to tell my life story here, I do want to include a little background about my podcasting history. I've run a WoW PvP podcast (oh no, my secrets out!) for two years coming up this June. ArenaCast did quite well for itself, building a community and peaking at around 12,000 weekly downloads on shows. As of late, my interest in the game has slowed down, and I've stopped doing it as my co-hosts bowed out one-by-one.
Podcast Info
I've decided to go ahead and do a podcast -- maybe weekly, maybe bi-weekly, or this may be the first and last episode -- for SC2. Right now its a developing project, so I'm just winging it and naming it State of the Game SC2 Beta Podcast. Keep in mind that I'm still working on molding the show. I'm more of a dive-right-in, fix-it-later type guy so that's what I plan on doing!
SotG 5.11.10
+ Show Spoiler +The show runs about 1h40m long as we really dig into the patch notes. >>DOWNLOAD HERE<< || >>Alternative Link<< (Filefront) Remember to checkout all of the MLG SC2 events going on: Fight Night, Showmatch Series, MLG YouTube Page and the GameBattles 1v1 SC2 League (link forthcoming) Thanks everyone and feel free to post questions for the next cast in this thread using the @Question signal. Episode 4 Guests: - JP McDaniel - Host
- Sean "Day[9]" Plott - Co-host / Day[9] Dailies / Commentator
- Liquid`TLO
- Tyler "Liquid`NonY" Wasieleski - SC1 Veteran / All-around badass
SotG 4.23.10
+ Show Spoiler +The podcast has been added to iTunes and should show up in the next couple of hours. Show can now be downloaded below. We had a last second guest sub in but I think you guys will be happy with the two new guests. >>DOWNLOAD HERE<<>>Alternative Link<< (Filefront) A new week, a new podcast! Just not quite yet. We'll be recording later in the week most likely so I apologize for people clicking this and expecting a brand new cast, however, don't close the thread! We need user questions! The second week we skipped them altogether because of my poor planning. This week, that just won't do. So if you're interested in submitting a question to ask this weeks cast, simply respond to this post and include a bolded @Question tag before your question. Pretty simple! Below you can find more information about the podcast if you're a new listener and also links to our previous episodes. Also, this week we have a special treat for everyone: Nony! Episode 3 Guests: - JP McDaniel - Host
- Sean "Day[9]" Plott - Co-host / Day[9] Dailies / Commentator
- Liquid`TLO
- Liquid`Jinro
- Tyler "Liquid`NonY" Wasieleski - SC1 Veteran / All-around badass
I'll update this thread with more information as to when we're recording (maybe I'll even do a live show this week? and also download links when we finish it.
SotG 4.9.10
+ Show Spoiler +Episode 2 Guests: - JP McDaniel - Host
- Sean "Day[9]" Plott
- David "EG.Louder" Fells
- Jacob "EG.LzGaMeR" winstead
Topics: - Patch 8
- SC2 evolution vs. SC1 evolution
- Event Watch
- Rising Stars
>>DOWNLOAD HERE<<>>Alternative Link<< (Filefront)
SotG 4.1.10
+ Show Spoiler +Episode 1 Guests: Topics: - Patches - major changes from each patch, thoughts on it
- SC2 vs SC1 - major / minor differences, better / worse?
- Match-up of the week: ZvT - an all encompassing discussion about the match-up
- SC2's gunna be big in e-sports; we know that. What do we want to see happen, though?
- Evolution of Play in SC2 -- Week 1 to Now
- Map Banter: Desert Oasis -- discussions about the map
Podcast is recorded and can be downloaded >>HERE<<>>Alternative Link<< (Filefront) Sorry, download is kinda slow. Sorry, not all topics were covered. Sorry, Nony's computer died right before the cast or something. Hope he's not dead. PLEASE comment and tell me what everyone thinks!
User Questions
- If you're interested in submitting a question to ask this weeks cast, simply respond to this post and include a bolded @Question tag before your question. Pretty simple!
As always, I am constantly looking to improve anything I do on the internetz. If you have any suggestions about topics or you feel like calling me a giant noob then feel free to post!
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Thanks for the hard work JP! Love this podcast.
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Thanks for these, been following from the start!
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Ultra with canon on its sides? This podcast going to be epic dling now!
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OMg listening!
I want ultra buff!
Edit: wow...cluck...
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How hilarious is Day9's laugh...I crack up everytime he cracks up.
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lol this one is pretty funny but maybe they should make the ultralisk so it can load zerglings and shooting the lings like the broodmothers making it do like 5 dmg per ling or something considering that the lings are able to approach the opponent's army without taking damage while running up to them
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keep these coming. by far the best podcastish-stuff in SC2 out there at the moment.
edit: oops sorry, forget that i already posted. can an admin somehow merge the posts? sorry again.
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lol this one's hilarious thx.
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This easily made my day :D Thanks for the laughs.
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This Podcast is so EPIC! Thanks for the laughs guys 
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LOL at artosis's laugh, that was so funny:D
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whoa new episode so fast? really didnt expect that, awesome, I absolutely love these
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Sweet podcast. The next couple months are going to be a little boring without all the beta awesomeness.
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Thanks for doing this. I really enjoyed these.
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These podcasts are awesome. Thanks alot.
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units 50% bigger sean??? lol. ultras won't even be able to go up and down ramps.
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Thanks guys really awesome job. I was playing and listening to your podcast. Some mighty fine laughs :D
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thank you for posting episode 5. I seriously check if this has been updated every single day. Day[9] + TheGunRun is a killer combo
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Dling, will listen, sounds good
And uh Megaphone, lol wut?
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The reason you cant bomb like zealot bomb is because tanks smart attack so only 1 is splashing  .
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does by someone end the podcast also in the middle? of artosis saying her is what i actually .....
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lol earlier this week, i saw a "3/2 food" thread get closed, and the poster get banned haha
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On May 20 2010 20:17 Ruthless wrote:The reason you cant bomb like zealot bomb is because tanks smart attack so only 1 is splashing .
and there are no vulture mines either so sorta becomes this Meeeh, move. ;/
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On May 20 2010 19:02 stockton wrote:
units 50% bigger sean??? lol. ultras won't even be able to go up and down ramps.
he said 15%
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On May 20 2010 20:40 QuasiMachina wrote:
lol earlier this week, i saw a "3/2 food" thread get closed, and the poster get banned haha
LOL
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Well instead of making them 1.5 food, just buff them again so they are worth 2 food.
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On May 20 2010 22:41 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Well instead of making them 1.5 food, just buff them again so they are worth 2 food.
but they're hatchery tech. What's the point of hydras?
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On May 20 2010 23:05 QuasiMachina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 22:41 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Well instead of making them 1.5 food, just buff them again so they are worth 2 food. but they're hatchery tech. What's the point of hydras?
anti air, longer range, more damage.
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United Arab Emirates492 Posts
Thanyou :D, really awesome podcast, can't wait for next week.
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Rofl, this podcast is so hilarious and thought provoking, what an awesome combination. I swear though, Day[9] has the best laugh ever, it's just like this explosion of good humor.
So thanks to everyone involved for bringing such entertainment, and knowledge.
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Thanks for making this great show, JP.
Sad to see things come to a temporary end, hopefully the second phase of beta doesn't take too long to start up. I'll be eagerly waiting for episode six.
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On May 20 2010 23:12 Madkipz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 23:05 QuasiMachina wrote:On May 20 2010 22:41 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Well instead of making them 1.5 food, just buff them again so they are worth 2 food. but they're hatchery tech. What's the point of hydras? anti air, longer range, more damage.
but if roaches get buffed, won't everyone just go back to using nothing but roaches? It seems to me one sollution may be to buff hydras
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Great cast as always. Keep up the good work gentlemen.
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That was hilarious, more please!
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lol ... give ultralisks snowplows to push around forcefields, awesome
interesting note by artosis that he finds marine/tank/banshees unstoppable... feels like kind of a nonintuitive combination, and definitely not something i would feel comfortable massing up (the banshees that is)
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Great stuff JP, can't wait for more of these after release.
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Day9s laughing outbursts at artosis' comments on the asia servers were so telling :D
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On May 20 2010 23:33 QuasiMachina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 23:12 Madkipz wrote:On May 20 2010 23:05 QuasiMachina wrote:On May 20 2010 22:41 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Well instead of making them 1.5 food, just buff them again so they are worth 2 food. but they're hatchery tech. What's the point of hydras? anti air, longer range, more damage. but if roaches get buffed, won't everyone just go back to using nothing but roaches? It seems to me one sollution may be to buff hydras
Given how much they have been nerfed from being ridiculous meat shields, it would be an easy way to do it rather than moving them to 1.5 food. I mean, there was the Organic Carapace and other stuff that got removed from the roach.
Plus do you really want the zerg to make 2 roaches from each larva? Think about that late game.
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Marshall Islands104 Posts
Thanks for the podcast and good luck on whatever you are doing for the next few weeks!
And yes, this podcast is absolutely hilarious--so much laughing :D
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I really liked 1:05:45 where Artosis says "man anyone is a protoss player, that race is SO easy" and there's like this uncomfortable 2 second pause, and then Day9 just incredulously cracks up not believing what he just heard
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well done, liked it a lot
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Day9 imitating Blizzard about the roach changes made me laugh so hard:
"We feel they're just a little too good at hive"
"We feel they just have a little too much armor"
"Alright look they're completely bullshit"
Also someone should mention to Day9 that mappers could just make the choke points 50% smaller rather than readjusting every unit  .
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How do I download this to my iphone is it on itunes?
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On May 20 2010 23:33 QuasiMachina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2010 23:12 Madkipz wrote:On May 20 2010 23:05 QuasiMachina wrote:On May 20 2010 22:41 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Well instead of making them 1.5 food, just buff them again so they are worth 2 food. but they're hatchery tech. What's the point of hydras? anti air, longer range, more damage. but if roaches get buffed, won't everyone just go back to using nothing but roaches? It seems to me one sollution may be to buff hydras
They both have different utilities.
Its not like roach, hydra was not the strategy you mainly used pre patch 12 nerf but with roaches at 2 supply instead of 1, it suddenly became this 200/200 weak unit that basically had too many counters to even remotely be considered effective en masse.
example, stimmed marauders and marines guarding a tank shelling cluster. Roaches take 20 damage from stimmed marauders and while they have hp to spare, the hydralisk takes 10 damage because it is not armored and suddenly does not die as easy as the roaches and becomes the tank of our comp.
thats why you wanted to mix them together, so you can counter both their +light damage units. Hellion, marine with roach and rest against hydralisk. With roaches at 2 supply, you simply wont have the endgame mass to fight equally against Terran mech, protoss collosii / immortal /templar and the roach with all its upgrades is viewed as more of a situational early game defensive unit.
This should not be, it has HIVE tech upgrades, therefore it should be a contender in 200 / 200 battles competing with Ultralisk and banelings for a spot inside the late late game stage.
Right now you can dismiss such notions almost instantly, as even banelings tank better for less supply.
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These podcasts make my day. Super cool to still hear my intro, too, thanks JP!
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Cauthonluck is the Wraith Pilot!!!!!
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I don't know about everyone else but once beta goes away, I'm going to need these casts more, not less. You don't need real news to talk about anyway, just have Artosis on to rage about his weak race while Day rofles at him. Then everyone just go around suggesting changes. Day proposing giving the 250mm strike cannon to the Ultra in Ep4 was one of the greatest moments of my life.
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Arotosis: So have you actually succesfully stopped alot of terran timing pushes? or do you just like to see little green exploding balls.
Day[9]: ...i just feel neat...
haha that made me laugh so hard ^^
great podcast, i love all of the ridiculous tangents that they go off on. It's a shame we wont be seeing another one for a few weeks. im looking forward to these coming back.
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Cannonlisk made me laugh for about 10 minutes. Easily made it worth the time.
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On May 20 2010 19:09 Megaphone wrote:![[image loading]](http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r314/mkillerh/day9.jpg)
LOL
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JP -- this is not the END END correct? You'll be resuming after your travels?
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On May 21 2010 03:45 zTz wrote:
JP -- this is not the END END correct? You'll be resuming after your travels?
Something like that.
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Oh god, artosis' laugh is so funny
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I hope so man, what else am I gonna listen to from iPhone while im at work 
Good work on the whole thing, can't wait to see what MLG is doing in the future SC2 scene!
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On May 21 2010 00:31 Happy.fairytail wrote:
lol ... give ultralisks snowplows to push around forcefields, awesome
interesting note by artosis that he finds marine/tank/banshees unstoppable... feels like kind of a nonintuitive combination, and definitely not something i would feel comfortable massing up (the banshees that is)
thats because its a timing push not a sit back and mass
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Oh my, that last episode was so legendary, really hope you'll do alot more podcasts JP when you get back
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On May 20 2010 20:40 QuasiMachina wrote:
lol earlier this week, i saw a "3/2 food" thread get closed, and the poster get banned haha
haha thats funny.
Personally I think its a really bad idea though because Z could pump out so many roaches with such few larva.
I think they should just give one roach 1.5 supply.
It's not pretty but I think it's the best solution.
rofl at the epic day9photoshop
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JP doing great as usual. It's astounding to see someone come from another scene and totally absord all the vital points of starcraft so well!
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LOL! Easily the best podcast to this date!! Ultras should be able to move forcefields around like SERIOUSLY artosis. WHY isn't Artosis on blizzard developement team? rofl!!
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When Artosis was talking about ZvT I kept thinking of Brood War PvT "Hellions run into my minerals lines and rape my workers" and "Siege Tanks melt my army" and "need to use Nydus Worms [Recall] more". I thought it was funny given Artosis' well known hatred of Protoss in the original StarCraft .
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I really enjoyed this episode. But I was wondering if you plan to continue to talk about patch notes. Because I'm sure that there will be less patches in the future with smaller impact on the game. So I was wondering if that might be enough "content" for future shows. After all this is not a game like WoW where patches can be huge and even add a lot of content to the game.
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Im laughing so hard and Im only 2/3rd through.I cant wait to hear more when the Beta comes back.
Thanks JP and all the guests for doing these, Ive really liked them.
edit: oh **** Im laughing soooo hard, Artosis + Day[9] stand up show now please!
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Day[9] has this UPROARIOUS laughter that he calls "the giggles"
"the giggles" is what schoolgirls do when.. well anything happens really. It's not nearly as distracting I suppose as Day[9]. :p
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On May 21 2010 08:23 uNiGNoRe wrote:
I really enjoyed this episode. But I was wondering if you plan to continue to talk about patch notes. Because I'm sure that there will be less patches in the future with smaller impact on the game. So I was wondering if that might be enough "content" for future shows. After all this is not a game like WoW where patches can be huge and even add a lot of content to the game.
ArenaCast, the WoW podcast I created / still in production every week or so, doesn't specifically talk about patches. Although they're good sources of content, there's a lot more to talk about. They just won't be as long as some of these past episodes have been. We can go into specific strategies, specific tournaments, specific matches and break them down as much as we want.
There really is a lot of unexplored content out there I think. Will be fun to continue doing this when I'm not as busy.
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thanks for making me (again) the crazy guy in the train that doesn't stop laughing while listening to music.
Overall great show too bad its going to be on a 2 week hiatus
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W00T thanks JP. Its always nice having Nony on the show
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You can't make this the last podcast LOOK AT THE NEW PATCHNOTESSSS
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it's like they listened to some of your suggestions for patch 13: ultras destroying forcefields, voidrays range decrease!
This definitely means you need to do another state of the game next week.
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Looking forward to your return in a few weeks, great podcast.
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On May 21 2010 12:46 xxfobxx wrote:
it's like they listened to some of your suggestions for patch 13: ultras destroying forcefields, voidrays range decrease!
This definitely means you need to do another state of the game next week.
Yeah, first thing I thought of when I saw the notes. This guys must be psychic, great change with ultras being able to destroy FF
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Please limit the time of these podcasts because they're so addicting and my entire night is eaten up listening to this amazingness!
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More podcast for new patch notes!
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Funny listening to them predict all the patch changes.
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i love that these podcasts are outdated in 1 day. lol
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This podcast proves the wisdom of crowds theory because they were able to predict both the forcefield and void ray changes. mind=blown
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Awaiting another brilliant podcast for patch 13
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Love these podcasts so much, thanks for making them and looking forward to more!
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Artosis is such an angry zerg player. I love it.
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On May 21 2010 15:34 Siffer wrote:
Artosis is such an angry zerg player. I love it.
Haha, it's awesome to listen to as a zerg player, its quite refreshing!
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Now you have to make episode 6 "P.S."
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artosis went easy. ZvT is completely f*cked.
Great and hilarious podcast though. Uncanny that they predicted the changes so accurately. Well, except for the marauder fusing into an air marauder lolol and canons being attached to carriers.
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On May 21 2010 15:57 Decko wrote:
Now you have to make episode 6 "P.S."
I like the way you think.
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It was really really funny listening to them talk about ultra changes in the most recent podcast, only to have them come true in patch 13.
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On May 21 2010 10:03 itmeJP wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2010 08:23 uNiGNoRe wrote:
I really enjoyed this episode. But I was wondering if you plan to continue to talk about patch notes. Because I'm sure that there will be less patches in the future with smaller impact on the game. So I was wondering if that might be enough "content" for future shows. After all this is not a game like WoW where patches can be huge and even add a lot of content to the game. ArenaCast, the WoW podcast I created / still in production every week or so, doesn't specifically talk about patches. Although they're good sources of content, there's a lot more to talk about. They just won't be as long as some of these past episodes have been. We can go into specific strategies, specific tournaments, specific matches and break them down as much as we want. There really is a lot of unexplored content out there I think. Will be fun to continue doing this when I'm not as busy.
Glad to hear that. I can't wait for the next episode. :D
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nice cast as always. A bit light in spirit which I found quite entertaining. And regarding more zerg units, coming with the expansion, just gotta hold out
All in all these podcasts have been really great and adds value to the community as a whole, looking forward to future casts as well!
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god i would love to hear episode 6 with the new patch discussion :o gogogo JP
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On May 21 2010 12:41 Sent wrote:
You can't make this the last podcast LOOK AT THE NEW PATCHNOTESSSS
haha seriously
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Can you put these up on iTunes?
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Hope you make another podcast for the new patch changes.
Nice predictions by the way You got the ultra being able to ram through FF and void rays having their range decreased.
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Australia7069 Posts
The best bit of the cast was when you were all laughing at the idea of ultras knocking over FF's and it actually happened XD
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Just listened to it, was pretty entertaining. Cheers to you all!
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On May 21 2010 22:36 firalol wrote:
Can you put these up on iTunes?
I submitted it to iTunes about 3 weeks ago and never heard back from them actually. I'll check up on that before I leave.
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Does this cover patch 13?
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^ No, but I don't mind since I don't want theorycrafting, no matter who's doing it.
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PATCH 13 has some changes that were suggested in the Podcast! OMG thats too funny XD
ex: Massive Units crush forcefields = Ultras have a use now! :O
Voidrays range reduced from 7 to 6
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Yep it's pretty amazing that some desired changes from the podcast were actually implemented!
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On May 22 2010 05:34 DTWolfwood wrote:
PATCH 13 has some changes that were suggested in the Podcast! OMG thats too funny XD
ex: Massive Units crush forcefields = Ultras have a use now! :O
Voidrays range reduced from 7 to 6
Yea i was mindblowned by this as well, i bet they will joke about it in the next patch :3
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HOLY SHIT
That is some scary evil laugh
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On May 22 2010 05:34 DTWolfwood wrote:
PATCH 13 has some changes that were suggested in the Podcast! OMG thats too funny XD
ex: Massive Units crush forcefields = Ultras have a use now! :O
Voidrays range reduced from 7 to 6
I listened to this after the patch 13 changes and I was just blown away at how accurate the pros were .It just further reinforces the point they understand this game on a COMPLETELY different level than I do :D
Thanks for the casts too! It's always interesting to hear intelligent, eloquent people discuss ideas for awhile. Much more informative to me than the small 10 minute interviews we normally get from the top pros.
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is it possible to navigate in that player?
if not, way to go yahoo, ur walking in the steps of apple.
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Haha Awesome. Good stuff!
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