EPTguess it just shows that patch 13 is coming soon and the ultra buffs will come with that, and hopefully the zerg roach dwn to 1 supply again
Patch 12 - Changes and Discussion - Page 22
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Wi)nD
Canada719 Posts
guess it just shows that patch 13 is coming soon and the ultra buffs will come with that, and hopefully the zerg roach dwn to 1 supply again | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On May 14 2010 03:43 kxr1der wrote: Yeah now its a hydra with no range and no AA. I really dont see the point of a roach now. Burrow movement was actually getting seen more and more recently. Their one redeeming quality ~_~ | ||
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CubE.
Canada39 Posts
On May 14 2010 03:46 Oodama wrote: oh, and not even server reset? cool, i thought all the servers would get wiped with this patch guess it just shows that patch 13 is coming soon and the ultra buffs will come with that, and hopefully the zerg roach dwn to 1 supply again Why would they nerf roaches only to buff them? Not to mention an ultra buff is not going to do anything to stop the ever widening imbalance that exists with zerg units. Simply put with this nerf zerg do not have enough units to do anything. | ||
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MindRush
Romania916 Posts
Patch 12 notes it's not the op's fault | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
Roaches are now moving away from being a useful unit and toward being a unit you make because your opponent has splash dmg and/or bonus dmg vs light and roaches are the only thing you can make to deal with that. While it may increase diversity, diversity is only fun when you WANT to make the different units because of what they do. It's not fun when you have to make a unit because it's the only armored unit you have. Further patches might improve the situation, but it's not going to be an enjoyable wait at all. | ||
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MetalSlug
Germany443 Posts
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Synwave
United States2803 Posts
Im no where near high caliber but Ive found even with double the bases up I cant beat a terran mech that has sufficient viking backup. Every ZvT I play is completely geared around ending it by midgame because of that. Now with this roach nerf Im not sure I can end it with midgame pushes so unless something changes I may have to just go with bling early pool cheese when my random gives me ZvT. Or try for silly doomdrops when terran unsieges and moves out. Frankly Im just stumped by this patch change, with no other changes to zerg race I don't see how what its meant to do to change zerg play other than crack it with a massive nerfbat. | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
Honestly not sure what I am going to have to do to compensate, roaches functioned as meat tanks not just in their high HP but also in their numbers. Lings could never quite hope to accomplish that role short of dark swarm making a return. I pretty much agree with Morrow, in the later game fights I am just going to be working with absolutely less HP's worth of units going in with little way to make a difference on the matter. | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On May 14 2010 03:48 MindRush wrote: lolz, the op was warned for the post as i see but the shit is real Patch 12 notes it's not the op's fault I suggest you inspect the OP more closely. + Show Spoiler + Romania... | ||
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NokCha
Korea (South)410 Posts
Roaches are great units but to me it seems sort of weird that the most used zerg unit is/was a 1 supply unit~. I'm glad i can expect more unique builds rather than a bunch of roach rushes. Games still in beta so the changes/nerfs/buffs aren't going to be permanent~ Explore the game some more  | ||
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ilnp
Iceland1330 Posts
It's not pin the fucking tail on the donkey. You don't throw some shit at it and be like TADA!! DONE!!! They make changes, observe the effects, make changes, observe the effects. Not only is it not bad to expect that each patch won't be the end of balance -- it's probably better to do it this way. | ||
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Ryhn
United States509 Posts
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HubertFelix
France631 Posts
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Snowfield
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Feefee
Canada556 Posts
On May 14 2010 03:44 Lollersauce wrote: Does anyone give a shit that Zerg is now all 2+ supply except for ling/bling? I mean really... Isn't the point of playing Zerg having MORE fragile units? Right now we have the fragile units (with the exception of the roach), but we really don't have more. Was there another 1 supply unit for zerg in BW? Also, why don't we approach this roach nerf like a slight cost increase for roaches at first? I realize that 200 supply of roaches now means 100 instead of 200, which is obviously huge, but until you get supply capped really the only difference is that now you need to make more overlords. That might screw up the early roach rush, but otherwise it's really just equivalent to a price hike on roaches, no? Now instead of spending 100 extra minerals for an ovie after every 10 roaches you spend 200 (and admittedly a larva). I don't see why that change was necessary either, but it's true that the roach is ridiculously powerful for a 1 food unit. I thought it worked out ok balance wise, but it sure as hell never seemed "fair" that a unit that powerful would be 1 food. When I first was told they were I was all "haha, yeah right, you misread that". | ||
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[Agony]x90
United States853 Posts
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link0
United States1071 Posts
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space_yes
United States548 Posts
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s2pid_loser
United States699 Posts
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Lollersauce
United States357 Posts
On May 14 2010 03:51 Feefee wrote: Was there another 1 supply unit for zerg in BW? Troll much or are you that clueless? | ||
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