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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 07 2010 21:54 GMT
#661
Even I am a Terran player, I found that the marauder change is a good change.
Now I can start to use mech for once in SC2B...
Roach change seems nice too, dont know about the Voidray change though.
I gonna go Marauder+Tank everygame from now on :D and ofc some lategame Thor seems awesome.
Next change we need is decrease the Thor size ^^
Terran
Esp1noza
Profile Joined September 2003
Russian Federation481 Posts
April 07 2010 21:54 GMT
#662
A was in platinum 10 minutes ago and now have to play 5 placement matches. Friendlist got reset too. At least they didn't reset nickname.
BroodWar forever
Jandos
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Czech Republic928 Posts
April 07 2010 21:55 GMT
#663
On April 08 2010 06:54 Esp1noza wrote:
A was in platinum 10 minutes ago and now have to play 5 placement matches. Friendlist got reset too. At least they didn't reset nickname.


same here
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
April 07 2010 21:55 GMT
#664
Just checked the game files just in case. Planetary Fortress, Hunter Seeker Missile and Archons remain unchanged from before, so no bug fixes there.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
NightOne
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada215 Posts
April 07 2010 21:58 GMT
#665
what exactly is wrong with the archon?
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
April 07 2010 21:58 GMT
#666
On April 08 2010 06:54 Caphe wrote:
Even I am a Terran player, I found that the marauder change is a good change.
Now I can start to use mech for once in SC2B...
Roach change seems nice too, dont know about the Voidray change though.
I gonna go Marauder+Tank everygame from now on :D and ofc some lategame Thor seems awesome.
Next change we need is decrease the Thor size ^^

ye i agree man
could also make ultralisks a bit smaller imo ^^
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Blackjackbob
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada164 Posts
April 07 2010 21:59 GMT
#667
just played 3 ladder games since patch, lost them all. gold rank1-5 player here. all games were against protoss..

gfg
Esp1noza
Profile Joined September 2003
Russian Federation481 Posts
April 07 2010 21:59 GMT
#668
On April 08 2010 06:55 Jandos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2010 06:54 Esp1noza wrote:
A was in platinum 10 minutes ago and now have to play 5 placement matches. Friendlist got reset too. At least they didn't reset nickname.


same here

Relogged in bnet and got back my friendlist, but not my ladder points... Seems like it happened randomly to some people.
BroodWar forever
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
April 07 2010 22:02 GMT
#669
K, after playing some of the new patch, tanks are still trash, you might want to have like 2-3 in your army for splash/variety, but they should still be cheaper and cost less food and at most be 1/5 of your army. The rest should be just thor/helion.
Mech is alive and well, just not with tanks.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
April 07 2010 22:02 GMT
#670
now that I think of it I actually like it because it means ladder games wont be 60% zvz anymore since all the opportunists gonna switch away from zerg.
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
suejak
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan545 Posts
April 07 2010 22:03 GMT
#671
On April 08 2010 07:02 Sadistx wrote:
K, after playing some of the new patch, tanks are still trash, you might want to have like 2-3 in your army for splash/variety, but they should still be cheaper and cost less food and at most be 1/5 of your army. The rest should be just thor/helion.
Mech is alive and well, just not with tanks.

Probably depends on what you're fightin there, bro. :D
Are you human?
StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
April 07 2010 22:04 GMT
#672
On April 08 2010 06:21 BentoBox wrote:
Are you being dense on purpose? Christ.

Someone brings up a Thor rush as a potential opening/cheese against Protoss. You mention up the concussive shell upgrade as a deterrent to the strategy, as if it was relevant to the build and now you question its viability as a standard? How do you make any sense out of your thought process?

Please stop posting.


Another stupid comment from another idiotic poster. Thor rush is not a cheese against any race if you scout it, period. You can fast tech with any race and if the opponent lets you fast tech, they will lose. You think this is new to Starcraft? FFS, fast teching has been part of Starcraft for the last 12 years and the price for fast teching is losing to an early rush. Tell us something new Mr. BentoBox, because you're full of drivel.

Since when did I mention concussive shells as relevant to Thor rush? Obviously, somebody going for a Thor rush will skimp on marines, marauders, and concussive shells, LMAO.

Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
April 07 2010 22:06 GMT
#673
why would they nerf the hydralisk
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
BentoBox
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada303 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-07 22:15:55
April 07 2010 22:14 GMT
#674
On April 08 2010 07:04 StarcraftMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2010 06:21 BentoBox wrote:
Are you being dense on purpose? Christ.

Someone brings up a Thor rush as a potential opening/cheese against Protoss. You mention up the concussive shell upgrade as a deterrent to the strategy, as if it was relevant to the build and now you question its viability as a standard? How do you make any sense out of your thought process?

Please stop posting.


Another stupid comment from another idiotic poster. Thor rush is not a cheese against any race if you scout it, period. You can fast tech with any race and if the opponent lets you fast tech, they will lose. You think this is new to Starcraft? FFS, fast teching has been part of Starcraft for the last 12 years and the price for fast teching is losing to an early rush. Tell us something new Mr. BentoBox, because you're full of drivel.

Since when did I mention concussive shells as relevant to Thor rush? Obviously, somebody going for a Thor rush will skimp on marines, marauders, and concussive shells, LMAO.



Who said this was a breakthrough strategy-wise? Are you now using semantics as a scapegoat to cover your lack of reading comprehension? Trying to take your opponents by surprise is bound to fail if it gets scouted? REALLY?

And you brought up the marauder tech delay when a displayed thor rush was being discussed.
Only dead fish swim with the stream
Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
April 07 2010 22:19 GMT
#675
Hydra nerf just screwed me over in 3 ladder games. Before the patch Muta/Hydra would rape but now i just lose. 10 HP doesn't even feel that signifigant.....
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 07 2010 22:21 GMT
#676
The asia server is still up on patch 7 though, just lost a game on it :D.
Terran
suejak
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan545 Posts
April 07 2010 22:21 GMT
#677
On April 08 2010 07:19 Meepman wrote:
Hydra nerf just screwed me over in 3 ladder games. Before the patch Muta/Hydra would rape but now i just lose. 10 HP doesn't even feel that signifigant.....

This is the part where you're supposed to use your brain.
Are you human?
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
April 07 2010 22:23 GMT
#678
New Void Rays SUCK.
I like words.
bountyface
Profile Joined February 2010
United States95 Posts
April 07 2010 22:25 GMT
#679
On April 08 2010 07:19 Meepman wrote:
Hydra nerf just screwed me over in 3 ladder games. Before the patch Muta/Hydra would rape but now i just lose. 10 HP doesn't even feel that signifigant.....



awwwwww you have to adapt to new situations how sad
KaRnaGe[cF]
Profile Joined September 2007
United States355 Posts
April 07 2010 22:25 GMT
#680
On April 08 2010 06:17 Ryuu314 wrote:
I don't get why they don't just bring back the SCBW hydra. They were scary enough while still being easy to counter.


Oh my god please this. At least SCBW hydras are microable. I get raped by storm the way it is with the autocasting. My hydra are so slow i cannot storm dodge! I think that their slow movement is their balance problem. Not to mention they took my 2 favorite units out of the game which are the Mutalisk and Lurker. You cant argue that the mutalisk is in any way the same unit. You just can't micro it efficiently just the same as the new hydra.

Really i am feeling that the only unit that micros out of my zerg army is zergling / roach with speed upgrade or burrow / and infestors. Zerg were a very micro intensive race and now its just not and its quite frankly is not fun anymore. I really want it to be but wow have they taken the micro intensity out of zerg with SC2!

I would be fine with this patch if the hydra had a speed upgrade to make them a viable harassing unit and i wouldn't be afraid to take on a protoss army with them because i know if i micro right i stand a chance against storm and collosus. But for as expensive as hydra are now and weak and unmicroable it is just frustrating.
"We must remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school." - Athenian General Thucydides Quantum Gaming
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