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ymirheim
Sweden300 Posts
What then happens is that I end up in silver and then I just faceroll everything for weeks. I sit in the first place of my division with at least 100 rating down to whomever is below me but obviously I never get promoted. I just have to sit there playing endlessly tiresome games with no challenge whatsoever. I am really completely loosing all interest in the game from this because my ambition is just killed off. | ||
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Chronopolis
Canada1484 Posts
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ManiacTheZealot
United States490 Posts
On April 03 2010 02:02 Excalibur_Z wrote: It's generally accepted that the hierarchy of WoW Arena participants looks like this: 0-1499: Newb 1500-1799: Average 1800-1999: Fairly skilled 2000-2199: Very skilled 2200-2999: Extremely skilled 3000: Prot warrior 3000+ Wizard Cleave Fixed | ||
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No_eL
Chile1438 Posts
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cHaNg-sTa
United States1058 Posts
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ManiacTheZealot
United States490 Posts
On April 03 2010 02:02 Excalibur_Z wrote: It is not currently known how leagues are divided, but it is certain that they each contain a certain percentile of players. I estimate that to be this: Top 10% - Platinum 10-25% - Gold 25-45% - Silver 45-70% - Bronze 70-100% - Copper If it was a normal distribution it would be - 10% - Platinum 20% - Gold 40% - Silver 20% - Bronze 10% - Copper | ||
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Sejong
Korea (South)153 Posts
On April 22 2010 13:10 ManiacTheZealot wrote: If it was a normal distribution it would be - 10% - Platinum 20% - Gold 40% - Silver 20% - Bronze 10% - Copper you've got the right idea in that you have a bell curve. Only thing I wonder about is that in a normal distribution you have 68.2% of people within 1 standard deviation of the mean, and then outliers on the outside. I think a normal distribution might look like 2.2% - Platinum 13.6% - Gold 68.2% - Silver 13.6% - Bronze 2.2% - Copper | ||
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velocifero
Canada11 Posts
In any case with the launch of the game and public unveiling of bnet2.0, I imagine Blizzard will be disclosing additional information, and at the very least the noticeable increase in the size of the player base will provide new perspectives and information on the matter. Solid post and if not spot on, gives a very logical breakdown of how a ladder functions. | ||
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ZapRoffo
United States5544 Posts
With a matchmaking rating system, the way points are assigned is as follows. There is a default point assignment (was +/-12 for wow, seems similar in sc2) for an "equal match result". The amount won or lost in any given match, though, is determined by comparing your displayed rating to your opponent's matchmaking rating. This is why many people are experiencing huge gains for wins and small losses. It's because they haven't played enough to raise their displayed rating to their matchmaking rating. They may be matched as an 1800 matchmaking rating, but are at 1300, so if they win against an equal opponent (1800 matchmaking), they get the points of a 1300 beating an 1800, which may be +20 or something. The opponent compares his matchmaking to your displayed rating to calculate his point change, if he's displayed 1600 and you are also 1800 matchmaking, he will -10 or so (slightly less than -12 default). One huge misconception people I feel like people need to learn the truth about: The bonus pool WILL NOT cause inflation of ratings in the long run as long as it only modifies your displayed rating and not your matchmaking rating, which appears to be the case. In the long run, displayed ratings converge to matchmaking rating, so if matchmaking rating is unaffected there is no long term effect. An example: I start with a big bonus pool and win up to 1600, and my matchmaking rating is 1700. Alice wins the same amount against similar quality opponents but with no bonus pool and goes to only 1350 or so, but also with 1700 matchmaking rating, because matchmaking is totally unaffected. Now in my games I will only be looking at winning +13 or so from my opponents who are 1700 matchmaking, while Alice is looking at something like +16 or +17 from her 1700 matchmaking opponents. I'm looking at -10 or -11 from losses, while she's looking at -8 or so from those same people. Eventually the result over a long enough period is we both end up at 1700 if no change in skill happens. Even if I got enough of a bonus pool to get to 1900 or something, once that runs out I'm going to lose more for losses than I get for wins against people who are my skill level until I get to the appropriate level. The bonus pool just functions to get people's displayed rating jump started so if they took a break they can jump to their rating more quickly. | ||
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Perfect Balance
Norway131 Posts
I'd prefer to see my universal ranking like all other game ladders in recorded history. | ||
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Crais
Canada2136 Posts
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mooose
Japan200 Posts
I'm really starting to dislike this rating system. I wish it was just a transparent ELO rating and I could have a number next to my name which I could compare to anyone else regardless of divison/league. | ||
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FlamingTurd
United States1059 Posts
I purposely lost my first 5 qualifying games. After the first reset I won a vast majority of my games and it took me like 70 games to go from copper to platinum. After the second reset it took me like 25 games to go from copper to platinum. And yes, I as do most other people I'd assume really despise the whole top 100 in each division as it really means absolutely nothing and wish there were some sort of top 1k available to know where u really stand. | ||
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flextra
United States22 Posts
Also, to a posters above, while silver is the midpoint, I doubt that each league is calculated at one standard deviation above or below the others. I gave two of my friends beta keys a week or two ago, and one placed into bronze and one in gold, both in 1v1, and they both were put in a division between 100 and 110, so while the sample size is small, I am gonna go with the logical conclusion that the population of each league is equally distributed. 20% for each league. As for MMR from WoW though, the MMR carries over from previous seasons and defaults at 1500 for new characters, and even if you win-streak against equal rated players, your MMR shouldn't spike up that fast, only if you win against higher rated players (which you shouldn't be facing if the system is working correctly). As for Starcraft 2 though, with only 5 matches to determine your rating, I'm guessing it knows it's a lot less accurate, so it'll probably spike your MMR much higher on a win streak. | ||
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Grape
145 Posts
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Fts
Sweden369 Posts
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micropede
United States47 Posts
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mrgoochio
United States557 Posts
can you also elaborate on where you got your information on sc2 tournament info? or is that speculation based off of previous blizzard titles? | ||
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mrgoochio
United States557 Posts
On May 12 2010 02:19 micropede wrote: My division is currently 'undefined.' Does anyone know what this means? you broke battle.net. you are deducted 2 internets | ||
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mattpkp
United States9 Posts
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