Patch 7 Notes - Page 32

On April 02 2010 03:51 MorroW wrote:
they need to make toss better :/
i think maruders r too strong compared to rines

On April 01 2010 20:27 Geo.Rion wrote:
i really dont see what s the reasoning behind buffing Banshees
Also broodlords nerf.. idk about it, i think it was fine, it was really hard to tech to broodlords and produce them safely. yes if you actually had them out they were really strong, but you could get killed befor that a lot easier

On March 31 2010 06:59 Skyze wrote:


I actually think thats the biggest problem in SC2 (what SpoR said), You basically cant retreat from battles in SC2.. Theres so many units that are just either too slow, or units like the marauders which slow you down.. Even like roaches vs stalkers/sentries, you cant run because the roaches are too slow (without upgrade, but even with upgrade i thnk its the same) and they just own you before you can retreat.. Air units are even worse, altho I like that in a way because it means my mutas can dominate like 5 phoenix's when they start running, but it should be fixed imo.

You basically have to commit to attacking in SC2, because you cant retreat. That is probably why we are seeing so many people just sitting in their base massing armies, you cant even really pick off one unit and run back micro because running away doesnt work.

The only major design flaw I see so far in SC2.

On April 02 2010 05:06 hacpee wrote:
Everyone says storm is too powerful vs m&m. Guess what? Storm was powerful vs medic/marine in sc1 too. It raped medic/marine. No reason to nerf storm just because its good.

On April 02 2010 05:06 hacpee wrote:
Everyone says storm is too powerful vs m&m. Guess what? Storm was powerful vs medic/marine in sc1 too. It raped medic/marine. No reason to nerf storm just because its good.

On April 02 2010 05:06 hacpee wrote:
Everyone says storm is too powerful vs m&m. Guess what? Storm was powerful vs medic/marine in sc1 too. It raped medic/marine. No reason to nerf storm just because its good.

On April 02 2010 05:20 Gnosis wrote:


Problem is that mech isn't viable in SCII. I've tried. I've tried countless times with my practice partner (I'm platinum T, he's platinum P--Both B- / B iCCup). No matter what psi, how I emp or how I setup, P always rolls over T. Until they fix that (if they fix that), storm is a much bigger problem in this game than the previous.

On April 02 2010 06:22 Slurgi wrote:


Interesting...

I'm a platinum T player, and I feel the opposite. I feel like TvP greatly favors T currently. Ghosts are quite strong, and nuking is a severely underrated and underused ability right now. If you have ghosts ANYWAY the 100/100 to nuke a protoss base seems borderline unreasonable, to be honest.

Also, psi storm isn't that bad, honestly. Micro out of it, and EMP HTs to prevent it from happening in the first place, if you can. Ghosts have 100 HP and you can put them near the front of your army without feeling bad about it. They are fine fighters, too, against light units. I'm far more scared of colossi than HTs, for sure.

That said, I still feel like TvZ is a bit broken in favor of Z. Either I don't know how to play TvZ at all, but good zergs just roll me over due to the breaking power of banelings, power of zerglings vs bio keeping me in my base earlygame, and the queen/zerg macro mechanics make the matchup seemingly unwinnable.

On April 02 2010 06:26 Gnosis wrote:


You're speaking in terms of pure mech, right? Not biomech? (I don't consider ghosts to be bio in mech build).

On April 02 2010 06:47 Slurgi wrote:
You're saying that psi storm is effective against mech in SC2? I struggle a bit to see that, as any sort of spacing at all by tanks makes it unfeasible. It's all a moot point though, because tanks are unfeasible against protoss (almost every unit counters tanks. It's ridiculous). Hellions also don't seem to hold up against anything but zealots. Thors might be better in the matchup than people are giving them credit, but I haven't really tried them or thought it it too much.

On April 02 2010 06:47 Slurgi wrote:


Maybe I misunderstood. I thought you were stating that mech is unviable, but that psi storm rapes bio as it did in SC1.

You're saying that psi storm is effective against mech in SC2? I struggle a bit to see that, as any sort of spacing at all by tanks makes it unfeasible. It's all a moot point though, because tanks are unfeasible against protoss (almost every unit counters tanks. It's ridiculous). Hellions also don't seem to hold up against anything but zealots. Thors might be better in the matchup than people are giving them credit, but I haven't really tried them or thought it it too much.

On April 02 2010 05:09 Puosu wrote:

The thing is that in SC2 mech actually does not work because of immortals, there were no immortals in SC1 now were there?

You can't do comparisons like that, so much new has been brought in to the game.