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Dr.Frost
United States389 Posts
On March 31 2010 05:16 celious wrote: I'm not sure if I agree with the thor change, but we'll have to see. I kind of like it. I think protoss needs some sort of splash air attack as well. Maybe reduce the Phoenix damage by 1-2 and make it splash. | ||
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ColorsOfRainbow
Germany354 Posts
HT radius nerf is perhaps ok for pvz but in pvt it was the only way deal with this mass marauder/marine combo since coloss no more 1hit marines  and now its even harder to storm terran also very bad for ht eco stormdrops (seems even more useless then before now) ... and emp who was nerfed from 3 to 2 now is bigger then storm ;( | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On March 31 2010 05:30 ColorsOfRainbow wrote: the problem i see is HT radius nerf is perhaps ok for pvz but in pvt it was the only way deal with this mass marauder/marine combo since coloss no more 1hit marines and now its even harder to storm terran also very bad for ht eco stormdrops (seems even more useless then before now) ... and emp who was nerfed from 3 to 2 now is bigger then storm ;(Yeah I feel that EMP and storm need to have an equal radius though, seeing as EMP damages the toss pretty bad too | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
I understand why they nerfed the AoE on psi storm, but I think that Blizzard needs to compensate by either cheapening the tech cost or making archons worthwhile. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13922 Posts
On March 31 2010 05:24 ColorsOfRainbow wrote: WTF toss is so hard vs zerg and now they NERF TOSS AGAIN ? what does blizzard think ? (oh zerg win every tournament lets nerf toss and buff zerg GOGO) ...... psi storm radius from 2 to 1,5 is so funny i mean first nerf colossus now nerf ht what should p do vs mass hyds roaches now ? pretty much die.... | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On March 31 2010 04:41 Jyvblamo wrote: The people going 'wtf?' over the banshee buff need to think a little. Blizz just buffed all of the anti-air static defense, so to maintain the previous version's banshee balance, they of course need to give it a buff. Like I said before, the unit does too mcuh damage as it is. So we don't care about this directly or argue it's equality to the turret/spore/thor buffs. The problem is that it needs damage nerfs. On March 31 2010 04:44 Jyvblamo wrote: Archons already have splash, what are you talking aboot? lol, archon splash is not anything like it was in BW. Archons suck ass in sc2, blizzard even stated that they are just an extra unit now, something to do with spent templar. They did this on purpose. What the guy meant, was now they can get a better spash radius like thor has. | ||
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cyllu2
Sweden74 Posts
psi storm was way too wrong so nice nerf there. it's just so much more powerful than in bw. brood lord nerf was needed, i think they should nerf the broodlings though (like make it cost energy), not the damage. banshee buff is odd. turret buff and thor buff makes sense. | ||
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cyllu2
Sweden74 Posts
lol yeah, zvp is as close as an impossible matchup there is and bad toss players are still whining  edit: they NEED to nerf force field to last a max of 5 secs, cap the energy at 50, remove the damage output of sentries, or the entire ability from the game. it's very close to a I WIN-button vs zerg, AND vs terran... | ||
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jtype
England2167 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13922 Posts
On March 31 2010 05:34 TheAntZ wrote: Storm needed a nerf tbh, i've played both pvt and tvp in this patch and if protoss somehow does manage to get 2+ bases with templar and storm, its pretty much over for the terran if hes going MMMG, unless the toss badly screws up and lets his ghosts get EMP'd Yeah I feel that EMP and storm need to have an equal radius though, seeing as EMP damages the toss pretty bad too micro your ghosts better... srsly 1 emp gg toss. cloak is there for a reason, terran has map control easy before temps come out . use medivac to hide a ghost. feedback really only works well with vision, ie obs scouting. other wise its a scramble to get off feedback/storm before emp comes. | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
Marauders need nerf bigtime. | ||
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iounas
409 Posts
On March 31 2010 05:25 Slayer91 wrote: Psi storm was really, really powerful vs terran, this helps bio quite a lot. I also thing the focus was too much on colossus and templar as mainstream instead of support. If toss really suck bad without these then it's the units that need buffing, not the colo/templar. I dont like where this is going.. They are making templar a situational weapon used only against terran bio blob.. They should try and make mech better option so storm can be useful against zerg and air units.. Radius and damage for things other than bio blob is low considering how easy it is to dodge it with this small radius.. Fungal growth is more powerful.. I mean only suicidal people would make marines against army with templars or reavers in sc1.. | ||
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Muxy
7 Posts
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AmstAff
Germany949 Posts
On March 31 2010 05:33 semantics wrote: coloss has a 9 range get 2 and they 1 shot rines. get anti air and you're soild. just need to micro hard so p should micro like a god to get an even game? T can chill and just emp with his 2 radius and deal instant 100 damage + kill all mana and i have no way to micro out of it but terrans can micro out of storms that deal nearly the same damage but over a longer time instead of instant. | ||
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Mnijykmirl
United States299 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On March 31 2010 05:38 Skyze wrote: the reason why psi storm is so strong in SC2 is because units dont move out of the way fast enough.. Hydras basically have to take the hit, they cant dodge psi storms anymore.. Roaches kinda can, but not really.. So that was a good needed nerf.. Protoss already has millions of ways to kill zerg without psi storm, so they dont need more. Marauders need nerf bigtime. The slow is too good imo very few units can run away after being slowed and that's only if they don't stim. | ||
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Saracen
United States5139 Posts
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Paladia
802 Posts
On March 31 2010 05:18 mOnion wrote: 25%? Math ftl mate. only decreased by 25%....and where are you getting your stats? How do you calculate area of a circle? Area = pi * radius^2 and thus Prenerf: pi * 2^2 = 12.7 Area Storm covers: 12.7 After nerf: pi * 1.5^2 = 7 Area Storm covers: 7 Difference in percent: 1-(7/12.7) = 45% Total area nerf to Storm: 45%, it is possibly the biggest nerf ever done in Starcraft history. As for the race stats, they are from esportsfrance. Counting the top 100 rated people in EU. Race Wins Losses Win % Last patch difference | ||
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