EPTPro-game teams snub Blizzard? - Page 6
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PhallicAgressor
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Zurles
United Kingdom1659 Posts
even though god isn't real you get the point. | ||
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UdderChaos
United Kingdom707 Posts
On March 04 2010 00:30 Truenappa wrote: I don't think it's as simple as Blizz buying their way into a new league. This issue seems to have nationalist and cultural undertones to it. Notice how the XBox fails in Japan? Or how much shock there was that Budweiser was going to be owned by a foreign company? Even if Blizz could buy their way (I have no way of knowing if they do), they couldn't force Korean spectators to like it and support it. On March 04 2010 00:29 Polis wrote: Yeah I guess that Blizzard could set up they own channels, and pay much more for everything to get players, but Blizzard is probably not interested in loosing money, and working on something that they have no idea about in diferent country. If anything they would rather work with GOM, or other channel that is interested in cooperation, but I am not sure if that would be such a good deal for GOM. Blizzard wants all the rights, and to change conditions as they like, will any company want to invest in SC2 on those terms? Maybe they will end up with signing the deal that is not one sided but we will have to wait, and see how that develops. Yeah i agree that blizzard will want to avoid doing that and probally wouldn't because of costs ect, it's complicated though, they could see it as an investment and they could be potentailly in a bad situation if korea, about 1/3 or 1/2 of starcrafts fans dont buy the game at all or switch, so something drastic like this might be considered if KeSPA does really try and back blizzard against the wall. And although there is a cultural aspect, as stated by many people, there certainly are some koreans that are aginst KeSPA becuase of the controvisies such as the pp vs ppp thing. And i think you'll find that alot of these kids are tied to thier parents moreso than in the west, take for example jeadong and his parents infulence. And the parents want the best job/life for thier kids, so if there is more money in sc2 they may force/encourage thier kids who would normally go into sc1 to go into sc2 just becuase of the money. Basicly what I'm saying is that everyone wants more money, and despite culutral things, if blizzard can offer them enough money without breaking the bank i think the cultural loyalty side of it, if it even exists, will cave pretty fast. | ||
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mangomango
United States265 Posts
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zee
201 Posts
On March 04 2010 00:18 UdderChaos wrote: What's to stop blizzard just toally crushing KeSPA? Ignoring the right/wrong debate, which I think is useless, this is a fight that comes down to who has the biggest stick, moral or not. Blizzard has a rediculous amount of money at it's disposal, epsecaily if you count activision too, the biggest game company in the world and I think they said on thier conference call that they are the 3rd largest software company in the world in some aspect like distribution or development or something, which is just insane. By using other games than SC2? Wouldn't be surprised if a Korean clone would would come out. Kinda like Sudden Attack the CS copy. | ||
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Mr.Pyro
Denmark959 Posts
On March 03 2010 19:55 Rothbardian wrote: How come Ford/Subaru/GM/Chevrolet/etc. don't make money (control) from the cars racing in premier races across the world? Because you own that product once you buy it and you can do with it as you want since it is your property. Blizzard is not entitled to anything once you buy their product. When I buy something I expect to own it. Because the money you're making is not simply from showing your car to an audience for example, it's from sponsored contests you win with your driving ability - progamers don't pay for winning leagues either so the "vessel" argument really doesn't quite add up. | ||
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Mr.Pyro
Denmark959 Posts
On March 04 2010 01:59 zee wrote: By using other games than SC2? Wouldn't be surprised if a Korean clone would would come out. Kinda like Sudden Attack the CS copy. I rather serious doubt that a Korean clone would compete all that much, Atrox sure as hell didn't compare to StarCraft. | ||
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The6357
United States1268 Posts
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Railz
United States1449 Posts
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
From page 1 to page 6, newbies were provided a fuck ton of information about Kespa and yet, 6 pages later, the same crap keeps going on. If you don't know shit about Starcraft in Korea.... please refrain. | ||
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Puosu
6992 Posts
Kespa and Korea turnend SC:BW into what it is today just.. no Without KeSPA the Korean scene would be pretty much exactly the same as without it, they did not do anything revolutionary at any point. MBC/OGN/Blizzard should all be given more credit than them imo. Kespa is just giving them free advertising and blizzard should be thankful for them Ya I'm going to create this new tv channel and put movies on it and then when companies sue me for using their content like this I'm just going to say this free advertising bullshit, that shit does not work in business.. Christ. | ||
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member1987
141 Posts
Kespa has no right what so ever to license, manage and/or profit from selling SC television broadcasting rights. | ||
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mangomango
United States265 Posts
On March 04 2010 01:38 Zurles wrote: it's like the government trying to fight god. even though god isn't real you get the point. Dustin is real. And he loves us all, even Kespa. He gave his only begotten son, Jaedong, so that our sins may be forgiven. http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/File:DustinBrowder_Real1.jpg ![[image loading]](http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/File:DustinBrowder_Real1.jpg) But seriously; everybody get a grip. Breathe into a brown paper bag. Have some Doritos. Down some Bear Semen. Look at what TeamLiquid (and its partners) have accomplished. All of you are the coolest most dedicated bunch of nerds in the universe. We have nothing to fear but fear itself.  I love you all. | ||
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mkay
Italy20 Posts
On March 03 2010 19:18 Xxio wrote: Yea, I'm sure Jaedong felt that way during his free agency ordeal. KeSPA can't win, they have no real leverage, besides, Blizzard could legally fuck them up the ass. This. I personally can't stand them aswell. <3 mangomango's post ^^ | ||
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Vedic
United States582 Posts
On March 04 2010 02:58 member1987 wrote: Kespa should back off, as Blizzard can sue their asses for intellectual rights and end-user license agreement breach. Kespa has no right what so ever to license, manage and/or profit from selling SC television broadcasting rights. They already tried and failed. | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On March 04 2010 02:58 member1987 wrote: Kespa should back off, as Blizzard can sue their asses for intellectual rights and end-user license agreement breach. Kespa has no right what so ever to license, manage and/or profit from selling SC television broadcasting rights. actually they cant, as much as they would like to. Due to laws in korea they cant. [Darn beat me to it post above me] anyways i think its interesting that people are siding with blizzard on the issue. its 100% because they are a US company tho and every1 sees "US > Korea" if they are from the US. IMO this is just a greedy business that is already one of if not THE most successful in the world who is JUST BEING GREEDY now. | ||
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Alizee-
United States845 Posts
By the way, I consider Blizzard like a monarchy, if you have a king that king runs the show, but if its a good king there's no downside. So in this case, by Blizzard being the king, its not a bad thing. They do things well and put out great games. | ||
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Puosu
6992 Posts
What kind of fucked up laws do they have in Korea? Can I move there and start selling rights to display football on tv? That makes no god damn sense to me. | ||
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LuDwig-
Italy1143 Posts
Blizzard wants to make it clear that blizzard will control directly the progame scene for sc2. (it was alredy clear in the past however) I am really curious to see how it will turn... | ||
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