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United States33390 Posts
Source: Sports KHAN
Disclaimer: Sports Khan is a Korean sports/entertainment tabloid. They practice a lot of sensationalist journalism, like The Sun in the UK. This is not a direct translation, just my summing up of the story.
Mike Morhaime, president of Blizzard, visited Korea between February 24~26. Apparently it was just a routine trip to on Blizzard Korea business, with no major activities scheduled.
There was one minor event that had been planned though, a small private event at a hotel where Mr. Morhaime was to deliver the Starcraft II beta to the Korean pro-gamers and pro-game teams directly, with some time for dinner and discussion.
However, the event was cancelled, because most (the article does not say all) of the pro-game teams turned down the invitation. Why?
Blizzard Korea representatives said there were some internal scheduling misunderstandings.
The more interesting explanation though, is that it's because Blizzard did not go through KeSPA in order to arrange the event. Instead, they contacted all of the individual pro-game teams directly.
For the sake of future negotiations with Blizzard over intellectual property issues regarding Stacraft II's E-sports scene, the pro-game teams are united under KeSPA as a single party. Blizzard's treatment of the teams as individual entities could be an effort to undermine their unity on that issue.
An anonymous source from a pro-game team is quoted as saying "Blizzard Korea doesn't want to recognize KeSPA as negotiations partner regarding intellectual rights, but that's not the right way to think about it... ...KeSPA was created together by the teams, and KeSPA is essentially the teams themselves."
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KeSPA is make players and teams listen so progamer not like Blizzard
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
In the end it isn't blizzard that gets hurt by Kespa's arrogance however.. it will be the proteams/kespa. Going to war with the company that CREATED/MAINTAINS and OWNS the game you base your entire existence sounds absolutely retarded.
Yes I understand the gray area involved and the "complicated" actuality of this but.. I cannot imagine kespa benefiting in the end from this "war."
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On March 03 2010 19:05 Romanian from wrote:
KeSPA is make players and teams listen so progamer not like Blizzard
Whaaat?...
Interesting, please update us on this issue waxangel. Kind of interested in how things will turn out, thanks.
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mrmin123
Korea (South)2971 Posts
On March 03 2010 19:05 Romanian from wrote:
KeSPA is make players and teams listen so progamer not like Blizzard
But because Blizzard not want kEsPa part of deal but they want progamer like Blizzard but KeSpA is progamer ?????
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Canada5565 Posts
On March 03 2010 18:48 Waxangel wrote:
KeSPA was created together by the teams, and KeSPA is essentially the teams themselves.
Yea, I'm sure Jaedong felt that way during his free agency ordeal.
KeSPA can't win, they have no real leverage, besides, Blizzard could legally fuck them up the ass.
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Indeed... KeSPA should be grateful that Blizzard hasn't just seized all of their assets.
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one of the reasons i thought wc3 was a failed game was because of the lack of korean support (not that they didnt try). esports just isnt popular enough around the globe. the infrastructure the koreans made for sc1 is really remarkable. sc2 will be an international hit, however i feel without support from the korean pro scene it will not survive.
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KeSPA needs to die ASAP. The players are the ones getting screwed at each and every turn, every decision KeSPA seems to make.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
lol there are enough talented, diligent korean SC players that the current roster of every pro SC team can be totally absent from SC2 and there will still be a large korean presence
if blizzard's got everything on lockdown, KeSPA can't do shit about it. They can't interfere with SC2 teams outside their sphere of influence, and they can't organize or broadcast pro SC2. They're retarded to think they're a vital part of the infrastructure ^_^
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Blizzard should just ignore Kespa and work with GOM. GOM should start trying to go to sponsors for SC II. There doesn't need to be a team league to start off, just fun exciting tournaments that aren't as strictly controlled and ran like Kespa. Kespa needs some competition and no one is preventing Gom. GOM get in, on this shit!
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KeSPA better shut the hell up, or else they'll get major problems trying to make big money playing Blizzard games, in SC2's case even on Blizzard's servers. The Korean Starcraft phenomenon yields huge profits for Blizzard, but that doesn't mean KeSPA can fuck with Blizz as they please.
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I think media/us don't know the exact details on this whole case, there's no way KeSPA would be stupid enough to keep fighting Blizzard like this when Morhaime could just snap his fingers and order KeSPA to be shut down in a matter of days.
And a lot of things have happened since wc3 was released, sc2 has a far bigger chance of putting bw progaming to a peaceful sleep.
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
I wonder. Do Blizzard retains all rights to games played by it's users? If I play a game, does Blizzard own my replay? If they don't how can Blizzard charge for a license when it's the players (Kespa) who are creating the content?
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On March 03 2010 19:43 T.O.P. wrote:
I wonder. Do Blizzard retains all rights to games played by it's users? If I play a game, does Blizzard own my replay? If they don't how can Blizzard charge for a license when it's the players (Kespa) who are creating the content?
Your replay is just a file on your computer, there's no real ownership to it so it's not quite the same.
But if you intended to make money off of showing your replay Blizzard would be entitled to a piece of the cake since they spent 7 years + and alot of money and hard work on creating the game that you would essentially be making money off of.
With that being said, seeing how Blizzard sponsored GOM and made them "certified" it really seems like they want to support E-Sport financially, not charge for it, they just want the control of what people are doing with their game, and don't want others to profit from their work.
Edit: They don't own "The match" that you played, they just own the platform you played it on, a match is just a series of specific events in time.
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I'm guessing KESPA will not allow ogn/mbc to stream sc2 games if KESPA is not part of the deal. They can do that because of sc1.
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On March 03 2010 19:35 Scorch wrote:
KeSPA better shut the hell up, or else they'll get major problems trying to make big money playing Blizzard games, in SC2's case even on Blizzard's servers. The Korean Starcraft phenomenon yields huge profits for Blizzard, but that doesn't mean KeSPA can fuck with Blizz as they please. ... Or they could just keep playing SC1, which as of right now is better as an esport.
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On March 03 2010 19:38 Puosu wrote:
I think media/us don't know the exact details on this whole case, there's no way KeSPA would be stupid enough to keep fighting Blizzard like this when Morhaime could just snap his fingers and order KeSPA to be shut down in a matter of days.
And a lot of things have happened since wc3 was released, sc2 has a far bigger chance of putting bw progaming to a peaceful sleep.
And how would he do that, exactly?
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On March 03 2010 19:50 Navane wrote:
I'm guessing KESPA will not allow ogn/mbc to stream sc2 games if KESPA is not part of the deal. They can do that because of sc1.
Indeed, because KeSPA could punish those channels for broadcasting SC2 without KeSPA having part of it, by just disallowing the BW players from participating.
But then everyone loses, so it seems like a silly situation.
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