I've noticed from a lot of these live streams that SC2 is VERY hard to follow and spectate in comparision to SC1.. I mean when you watch SC1 it's crystal clear where the units and buildings are and the colours go well against each other.. but on SC2.. its hard to make out the units and especially when there is a battle and shit is flying everywhere you can't see what's going on..

Does anyone else feel the same way?

jingoro

United States2 Posts

February 19 2010 02:16 GMT

I agree. It's especially difficult to make out what's going on with the zerg. My eyes feel like they're constantly straining.

I saw a few games on the desert maps and it was much easier to see what was going on.

FraCuS

United States1072 Posts

February 19 2010 02:16 GMT

i know what you mean. lol its very different.

theres ALOT going on when i watch it.

TheAntZ

Israel6248 Posts

February 19 2010 02:17 GMT

Anyone who isnt a blind fanboy sees it at this point tbh, even with the CLEAREST streams, its difficult to see zerg units properly

Jyvblamo

Canada13788 Posts

February 19 2010 02:19 GMT

Also, for protoss/zerg units it can sometimes be hard to tell what color they belong to in a major battle.

And zerg units on creep are a cluster-fuck.

yoshi_yoshi

United States440 Posts

February 19 2010 02:22 GMT

Yea another thing is that I don't know why they decreased the effect of player colors. In BW every unit except Archon is instantly recognizable as to what team they belong to. I especially appreciated how Zerglings had skin color matching their team color. From the streams it looks like team colors are less noticeable - sometimes in mirror matchups it's hard to tell what belongs to who. Zerg is just 'dark', no real colors.

Ruken

United States858 Posts

February 19 2010 02:22 GMT

Creep needs to be closer to pink like it was in SC1, the units can stay dark but I just think it would look great if the creep were brighter. I know they're worried about having things look nice and pretty but this needs to be functional first and foremost if this is going to succeed in e-sports.

jalstar

United States8198 Posts

February 19 2010 02:26 GMT

It looks fine to me, much better than the battle reports, and this was one of my biggest concerns.

TeWy

France714 Posts

February 19 2010 02:26 GMT

I find it very easy to understand everything, probably due to the fact that I plaid a lot of 3D RTS games.

blade55555

United States17423 Posts

February 19 2010 02:29 GMT

#10

On February 19 2010 11:17 TheAntZ wrote:
Anyone who isnt a blind fanboy sees it at this point tbh, even with the CLEAREST streams, its difficult to see zerg units properly

If you have ever played another game other then sc you would realize its not that hard to follow.

I find it easy to follow while the stream quality is decent in alot the psyonic_reaver stream seems kind of dark so makes it a bit harder to see whats going on but I still know whats going on. I don't find it hard at all its nice can only hope korea takes this game up ^^.

Nafaltar

Germany302 Posts

February 19 2010 02:29 GMT

#11

Yeah on streams stuff gets confusing especially if you don't know every unit from playing it I'd wager. However in game there really is no confusion at all. In a pile of zerglings and roaches and their death animations you can still make out your own and their units. And thus gauge whether you are winning or losing and what to do from there. I have 81 games played now and have never been optically confused so far. Although at the very start of playing I once "lost" a unit behind a Factory until the next popped out and I miraculously selected two instead of one.

TheAntZ

Israel6248 Posts

February 19 2010 02:31 GMT

#12

On February 19 2010 11:29 blade55555 wrote:

Show nested quote +

i've played sc, wc3, c&c (all of them). ra2,3, dawn of war, dow2

On February 19 2010 11:17 TheAntZ wrote:
Anyone who isnt a blind fanboy sees it at this point tbh, even with the CLEAREST streams, its difficult to see zerg units properly

FraCuS

United States1072 Posts

February 19 2010 02:33 GMT

#13

i still think Broodwar is better

BG1

Canada1550 Posts

February 19 2010 02:33 GMT

#14

Yes that's the thing I've noticed the most so far, colors need work!

shadowmarth

15 Posts

February 19 2010 02:36 GMT

#15

It's worse than SC, but it would be rather impossible to be as good in a 3D game without being way cartoonier, which people would have bitched for eternity about. Also streams are pretty poor quality. Which isn't their fault, but watching in HD is probably going to be the way to go for a while. At least until we all get it in our hands, and can identify units at a glance better.

shindigs

United States4795 Posts

February 19 2010 02:36 GMT

#16

Anyone who actually is in beta have an opinion on this? -_-

OrderlyChaos

United States1115 Posts

February 19 2010 02:37 GMT

#17

I've been watching a terran stream mostly and things are fine, but I do agree that the creep contrast needs to be greater. Either a much lighter purple or pinkish color would be good.

CynanMachae

Canada1459 Posts

February 19 2010 02:38 GMT

#18

Yea units color are pretty hard to distinguish

For the rest I'Ve got a feeling is that we havent seen enoug of them yet to get used to it

knyttym

United States5797 Posts

February 19 2010 02:39 GMT

#19

ya I was just thinking this.
Definitely need to make colors more easily distinguishable.

talismania

United States2364 Posts

February 19 2010 02:40 GMT

#20

I think we whined so much about the game being so bright and shiny that they went ahead and made it darker and broodier and now it's too hard to see low-res.