From watching the streams I haven't really had any trouble at all following what it going on in the game. I've heard the zvz and creep issues but I haven't watched much of that to be able to tell.

Achromic

773 Posts

February 19 2010 02:42 GMT

#22

A spectator sport needs to be eye-friendly with a variety of age groups... I don't think adults can keep track of what's happening in SC2.

My father once saw a shuttle/reaver micro vs 3 tanks on a Korean portal site and he said it was amazing, even though he doesn't like games.

Suc

Australia1569 Posts

February 19 2010 02:43 GMT

#23

Yeah I can only see what's going on from broodwar knowledge and reading sc2 stuff.

Viperskwa

United States106 Posts

February 19 2010 02:43 GMT

#24

Lol yeah we did bitch about those colors a bit too much at the beginning. Now we're whining that we were wrong

stumpster

United States67 Posts

February 19 2010 02:43 GMT

#25

The creep is the only thing that can be annoying (especially when the Z player is one of the darker colors), otherwise it doesn't seem too bad from the streams.

DeCoup

Australia1933 Posts

February 19 2010 02:45 GMT

#26

The only reason it is hard to follow is because the streamers are playing at the max res they can instead of lowering their res to that of the stream output. This is causing downscaling which is making each unit much less identifiable and turning what should be crisp battles into more of a mud or on a better stream still hindering the visibility of projectiles.

leomon

Canada169 Posts

February 19 2010 02:46 GMT

#27

They definitely need to make it easier to see.

I was watching a zerg game where the person had about 120 supply worth of zerglings/hydra/banelings and it was IMPOSSIBLE to see since they all move at the same time and cluster up.

The first solution would be to make the creep a different color.

Nub4ever

Canada1981 Posts

February 19 2010 02:47 GMT

#28

TBH I think its fine O.O

TheAntZ

Israel6248 Posts

February 19 2010 02:48 GMT

#29

On February 19 2010 11:45 DeCoup wrote:
The only reason it is hard to follow is because the streamers are playing at the max res they can instead of lowering their res to that of the stream output. This is causing downscaling which is making each unit much less identifiable and turning what should be crisp battles into more of a mud or on a better stream still hindering the visibility of projectiles.

the problem is, if sc2 actually has a proscene, and VODs are uploaded to youtube, they'll be unwatchable. Look at vods now, and tell me what sc2 vods will look like if they lose that much quality.

Arxyn

Canada17 Posts

February 19 2010 02:50 GMT

#30

I also had difficulty grasping what was going on in the beginning, however I am able to follow the action and distinguish things a lot better now.

I could not say for sure if this getting used to the new animations happened for me as well in starcraft 1 as I am incredibly used to them and do not remember the first time I played or watched a vod.

blade55555

United States17423 Posts

February 19 2010 02:51 GMT

#31

On February 19 2010 11:31 TheAntZ wrote:

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i've played sc, wc3, c&c (all of them). ra2,3, dawn of war, dow2

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I'm not a blind fanboy I am just not retarded and can see just fine. Sorry your having issues seeing correctly not my problem ^^

wishbones

Canada2600 Posts

February 19 2010 02:52 GMT

#32

just watch someone who streams with a decent app, such as pro caster.

Spawkuring

United States755 Posts

February 19 2010 02:53 GMT

#33

One thing I noticed is that the game is a lot easier to follow on low graphic settings. The textures look great on high/ultra, but they also seem to create jaggies that cause units to blend in more, making it harder to follow. The problem only gets worse with zerg and creep due to the near exact colors that the units and creep share. The colors of the zerg in general definitely need to be changed, and anti-aliasing really needs to be implemented soon since it's not in the current beta build.

TheAntZ

Israel6248 Posts

February 19 2010 02:54 GMT

#34

On February 19 2010 11:51 blade55555 wrote:

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I'm not a blind fanboy I am just not retarded and can see just fine. Sorry your having issues seeing correctly not my problem ^^

sure not like 90% of the people in the thread have the same problem, they're all retarded and you're the genius right?

On February 19 2010 11:17 TheAntZ wrote:
Anyone who isnt a blind fanboy sees it at this point tbh, even with the CLEAREST streams, its difficult to see zerg units properly

Tsagacity

United States2124 Posts

February 19 2010 02:57 GMT

#35

When I start a game sometimes I can't see my overlord because it blends in perfectly with the hatchery at the right angle

Deleted User 39582

317 Posts

February 19 2010 02:59 GMT

#36

SC1 runs in 640x480, which is very close to the resolution which games are typically streamed with. Seeing as SC2 is a much higher resolution game, there is no way blizard would be able to give low res streams the same visual clarity as in SC1, without greatly reducing the game's detail. I agree that team colours could be slightly more pronounced, but other than that, i think blizz have done a great job.

Oh, and the camera is further away

Xxio

Canada5565 Posts

February 19 2010 03:02 GMT

#37

I have no problems...no idea what OP is talking about ??

hubfub

Australia352 Posts

February 19 2010 03:03 GMT

#38

On February 19 2010 11:42 Ryoo wrote:
A spectator sport needs to be eye-friendly with a variety of age groups... I don't think adults can keep track of what's happening in SC2.

My father once saw a shuttle/reaver micro vs 3 tanks on a Korean portal site and he said it was amazing, even though he doesn't like games.

Exactly my point.. it's SO HARD for a spectator.. and I think pretty much every1 in this thread agrees.. this really needs fixing..

KhaosKreator

Canada145 Posts

February 19 2010 03:03 GMT

#39

When you first played SC, did you have any idea of what was going on on zerg creep? I know I didn't. It's a visual cluster-fuck.

You just need time to get used to it.