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Hubble
Germany248 Posts
On March 14 2013 17:35 Hikari wrote: The mastery achievements are where the difficulty lies: trying to kill the odin while enduring assault from elite terran troops can be quite taxing Or destroying every protoss base in the Narud-mission before the last temple is shut down. And these damn probes keep slipping through and rebuilding stuff. | ||
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Azurues
Malaysia5612 Posts
far easier than the final mission of WoL but overally, i enjoyed the campaign a lot. The "evolution" zerg units are all really fun to play with | ||
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Wargizmo
Australia1237 Posts
What I did dislike is the lack of replayability and the removal of a lot of player choice. I liked in WoL how you got to pick between two missions for example tosh vs nova, it meant there was new things to explore when you played through again. I also liked the upgrade system better, more permanent choices on what to spend your money/research on meant the game played out differently... maybe you go mech heavy one time, maybe you go bio heavy the next, maybe you spend most of your money on mercs. HoTS just didn't have that. Also some of the kerrigan options are so broken that you would never want to go anything else. I mean the two SCVs at once thing was really good in WoL but in HoTS you get the second one for free AND they cost less supply, it's absolutely ridiculous. All this can be forgiven if the campaign is actually a decent length but IMO 10-12 hours is just too short. | ||
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
On March 14 2013 17:04 Prugelhugel wrote: Another question: I did the campaign, but haven't got neither the Narud Pic nor the brutal achievement. But the campaign is listed as "finished 27/27" I checked the archive aswell, all games on brutal... any advice what I missed? Had the exact same problem and you just can't go back and play an old mission on Brutal. Tried that and it didn't work. This is how I fixed it: Some hours on March 12th the Achievement service was down so there was pretty much 1-2 missions there that messed everything up. 1. Check if you have all of the Evolutions Missions completed. There you can see where there's a "gap" in the Achievements. For me I had the Baneling Mission Achievement Missing. 2. Load an old Save file just before what you're missing. Yes, you must load an old save file, otherwise it won't work. Play that mission + one or two more. 3. Voila. You got everything! I did this and also did the Baneling Mission and now everything is fine with all of the achievements.  . | ||
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Holdinga
Bulgaria300 Posts
It's probably to spread creep everywhere and then super fast to creep the scourge nests 4 at a time | ||
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
I played the whole campaign on Brutal directly and in some cases it was hard but overall pretty easy. The most trouble I had was against the Primal zergs. One thing you have to remember though is that many of us have 2+ years of StarCraft 2 experience. We are so much better at StarCraft now so it seems a lot easier. We take an expand directly, we macro efficiently etc. So for Normal and Hard I don't think the difficulty levels are so way off. We are just better. Personally I just wish that some of the missions on Brutal were a little bit harder. | ||
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C[h]ili
Germany167 Posts
Anyways, I had the same problem with the "20-missions-on-brutal achievement", but after replaying the missions, I have been awarded with it  | ||
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JazVM
Germany1196 Posts
On March 14 2013 18:27 C[h]ili wrote: Right now many achievements are broken. For example, my Kerrigan is on Lvl 70, but I did not get the achievement. Also, Many counters for Kerrigan achievements are frozen, for example I have killed 99/100 units with banelings. I think we need to wait till Blizzard fixes this. Anyways, I had the same problem with the "20-missions-on-brutal achievement", but after replaying the missions, I have been awarded with it But how did you know which missions already counted towards the achievement and which did not? Or did you just replay them all :D? | ||
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Kurato
27 Posts
On March 14 2013 18:27 C[h]ili wrote: Right now many achievements are broken. For example, my Kerrigan is on Lvl 70, but I did not get the achievement. Also, Many counters for Kerrigan achievements are frozen, for example I have killed 99/100 units with banelings. I think we need to wait till Blizzard fixes this. Anyways, I had the same problem with the "20-missions-on-brutal achievement", but after replaying the missions, I have been awarded with it Nah they aren't actually broken but not described properly. Here is what I found in the battle.net-forums and it worked for me: "I observed that many of these achievements have a hidden "in a single game" criteria despite not saying it. If you are stuck in an achievement, its because it simply shows the Max you got from a single game. For example for mission 1 you got 49 Kinetic blast kills, it will show 49/50 in the achievement, however even if you kill 1 more using kinetic blast in the next mission, it wont go 50/50, but 1/50. so as crazy as it may seem, if you want to get the achievements RIGHT NOW, you gotta do it in a single game." | ||
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C[h]ili
Germany167 Posts
P.S.: JazVM, I knew I only need to replay the last one, sry  Edit: By any chance, did somebody manage to get the "Spammer"-Achievement? | ||
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ZergOwaR
Norway280 Posts
remembering from wol i did struggle abit more on the same diff on the bigger defence missions like utter darkness and all in. but since the final zerg mission is a frontal assult type of mission, the situation is kinda changed. its not very hard to make a defence mission into a challenge without making it into a step by step thing. basicly if they manage to make it so that you bearly hold as the timer goes out.. and seeing that you would be dead if it lasted 10 seconds more.. they have done their job for attacking.. even more so when it comes to zerg. it would be hard to get it as a challenge for certain tech routes (think the op purple train) without making another tech route completly useless. but yeah.. the purple train was kinda.. op  | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
On March 14 2013 18:27 TheSilverfox wrote: One thing you have to remember though is that many of us have 2+ years of StarCraft 2 experience. We are so much better at StarCraft now so it seems a lot easier. We take an expand directly, we macro efficiently etc. Sorry but that's not really true. Most of us had plenty of RTS experience before SC2. WC3, broodwar etc. And try to play WoL campaign final mission on brutal today, it's just as hard as 2+ years ago. | ||
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CYFAWS
Sweden275 Posts
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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Frankenberry
Denmark302 Posts
Also I felt the production value and storytelling was better in WoL. By storytelling I don't mean the story was better, but it was told in a better way. Anyways HotS looks good in multiplayer and its not like it was a terrible expirience, so all in all not to bad. | ||
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ZergOwaR
Norway280 Posts
On March 14 2013 21:04 Frankenberry wrote: I couldn't agree more. I was a better player a while back and I had far greater trouble with the campaign in WoL. I just smashed through all missions. Was quite disappointed Also I felt the production value and storytelling was better in WoL. By storytelling I don't mean the story was better, but it was told in a better way. Anyways HotS looks good in multiplayer and its not like it was a terrible expirience, so all in all not to bad. yeah it was kind of pleasing to just swarm everything first time in a long while where my pc actually complained (a lot of units vs something like 200 worth of supply in ling/bling... i felt my computers middle finger rise | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On March 14 2013 18:26 Holdinga wrote: how to do kill 4 gorgons in 120 secs ffs :D anybody know ? what's the catch It's probably to spread creep everywhere and then super fast to creep the scourge nests 4 at a time Yes, that's exactly it. Gorgons move slowly, and they only spawn when the previous one is destroyed, so use your initial creep tumor to spread creep out instead of to the scourge nest. Blitz your way across the map with 2+ queens, and only use a scourge nest if the gorgon gets close to your base. That mission is pretty annoying if you are going for the achievement where only 5 units can die to gorgons, since I think broodlings count as well. EDIT: But seriously, turtling on your ass in base until 3/3/3, using all of Kerrigan's abilities, and every op evolution/mutation, while doing the bare minimum is going to be easy. What the hell do you guys expect? Go for the Mastery achievements and then see if WoL was easier. Even ones early in the game...kill all of the Protoss docking bays without any messenger ships reaching a beacon, beat the primal zerg boss level in <12 minutes, etc. Several of the timed ones require you to be very efficient to complete. | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
On March 14 2013 20:45 Zandar wrote: Sorry but that's not really true. Most of us had plenty of RTS experience before SC2. WC3, broodwar etc. And try to play WoL campaign final mission on brutal today, it's just as hard as 2+ years ago. Lol, what? WoL is easy like hell. I replayed it before HotS. You don't even need to abuse any of the standard shit like MM/banshee/etc, just macro up and a-move stuff, it's the same as HotS. | ||
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Elanshin
Australia216 Posts
On March 14 2013 18:26 Holdinga wrote: how to do kill 4 gorgons in 120 secs ffs :D anybody know ? what's the catch It's probably to spread creep everywhere and then super fast to creep the scourge nests 4 at a time Its one of the easier ones if your are attempting that achievement alone. what you have to do is buy as much time with the first 2 gorgon so you can macro up and just steamroll through the units. Get tumors near but not on the scourge then activate them all (dont worry about waiting for the gorgon just activate them when 4 is in range). At the start, spread your tumor above the nest so u hop over it and continue to spread. I did it with 3 queens helping me just spread creep and its alot easier if you have the roach upgrade that spawn roachlings. Edit: A bit of grammar. | ||
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