I just finished it at brutal, after 12-13 hours of play. And meanwhile I was playing, it hit me how easy this campaign is. There were not a single mission that I didnt steamroll on first try except for 1 or 2 random missions where I just fooled around and had to reload 3 to the latest autosave.

The last mission was a joke. I remember WoL campain where I struggled hard on some missions, for example In Utter Darkness and All In, but also other missions where really hard.

Or maybe its just me not being a noob anymore..

Other then the difficulty the campain was really great, better conversations and emotions then in WoL.

ZenithM

France15952 Posts

March 12 2013 02:28 GMT

Brag thread if I ever saw one. :D

lazyitachi

1043 Posts

March 12 2013 02:30 GMT

So nice being a student.. playing for 12- 13 hours and all. Or unemployed... or a progamer.. whichever you are :S

Yeah. but they removed all the brutal and hard achievements i think.. its just normal ach and whatever achi.. should be much more doable than WOL ones

Did you do it WHILE trying to get the achi/ bonus missions?
I think if you strive for perfect execution, its much harder than just getting thru the missions.

PineapplePizza

United States749 Posts

March 12 2013 02:35 GMT

I watched NonY a-move everything on brutal in the last mission with self-reviving-at-full-health ultralisks and mega-hydras, only one attempt needed. At least he -spoiler alert- + Show Spoiler +

died a whole bunch on the Primal Zerg boss

, that level looked pretty rough.

We'll see how things change with the Brutal no-upgrades-research challenge:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=146562

or some kind of drone / crawler or zergling-only no-upgrades-research:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=155237

Teoman

Norway382 Posts

March 12 2013 02:35 GMT

On March 12 2013 11:30 lazyitachi wrote:
So nice being a student.. playing for 12- 13 hours and all. Or unemployed... or a progamer.. whichever you are :S

Yeah. but they removed all the brutal and hard achievements i think.. its just normal ach and whatever achi.. should be much more doable than WOL ones

Did you do it WHILE trying to get the achi/ bonus missions?
I think if you strive for perfect execution, its much harder than just getting thru the missions.

Not that i have any insight in it. But the reason for possibly (i havent't played yet) making the campaign slightly easier, might be to get people to instead of grinding campaign, get on multiplayer faster.

Maybe the achievments are (possibly) reduced, is because they want people to grind the multiplayer instead of the singleplayer.

digmouse

China6329 Posts

March 12 2013 02:37 GMT

Simply finish the campaign on Brutal is never hard, even in WoL, the hard part in HotS are the achievements, I found the Mastery category achievements are way harder than most the objective achievements of WoL campaign.

bbfg

30 Posts

March 12 2013 02:38 GMT

There are still hard achievements, but they are under "mastery".

Weren't any brutal achievements in WoL either.

ZenithM

France15952 Posts

March 12 2013 02:40 GMT

On March 12 2013 11:37 digmouse wrote:
Simply finish the campaign on Brutal is never hard, even in WoL, the hard part in HotS are the achievements, I found the Mastery category achievements are way harder than most the objective achievements of WoL campaign.

Shit, I didn't even notice those achievements. They do look challenging, that's cool.

purakushi

United States3300 Posts

March 12 2013 02:42 GMT

I can deal with the cheesy story/script, but it is way too easy. Nony was not even halfheartedly playing, and it was a joke.
I am also very disappointed that Blizzard did not add more Challenge missions. Getting brutal achievements will be difficult, but completing brutal difficulty campaign? Not at all. Considerably easier than in WoL.
Blizzard is too focused on flashy stuff instead of actual gameplay.
Disappointing singleplayer; meh multiplayer (at least it is better than WoL >_>).

They could have at least made it so that hero units do not respawn on brutal... that is just like wtf. I think I could accept the HotS campaign if heroes could not respawn. Blizzard simplifying the game even more >_>

Zheryn

Sweden3653 Posts

March 12 2013 03:26 GMT

#10

Yes, after 10 missions it feels like I'm playing normal mode on brutal. Pretty much impossible to fail the missions. WoL was 10 times harder.

rezoacken

Canada2719 Posts

March 12 2013 04:08 GMT

#11

Lol is this for real ? :X WoL felt already pretty easy, only the last one was hard.... if you guys say HotS is EASIER.... what the fuck I thought they said Brutal would be really hard.

Edit: I guess I'll see how achievements go.

tribulator

774 Posts

March 12 2013 04:22 GMT

#12

I'm gonna agree. 12-13 hours to do it here too. I failed a few times in a few missions, but for the most part I glided right through. It definitely felt easier than the WoL campaign. Maybe it has something to do with us having had 3 years to know the game or something.

The hardest part of the game was pretty early sadly, + Show Spoiler +

The primal zerg bosses, the one that spawns banes is a bitch

I still have a some achievements to get, but I've never been much of an achievement whore (plus I played on SEA, so I doubt those are going to transfer over to US anyway), so I'm just gonna jump headfirst into the 1v1's when it launches in the US in a few hours.

Campaign was still fun though, just wish it had a bit more smashing my head into a wall instead of massing roaches and smashing 1-a into an army.

zbedlam

Australia549 Posts

March 12 2013 04:25 GMT

#13

Was trying to decide whether or not to buy this game, since the single player sounds horrible and the multiplayer looks marginally better than WoL I'm going to go ahead and say no.

Whatson

United States5356 Posts

March 12 2013 04:36 GMT

#14

Nony pretty much made roaches, made hydras and a-moved through all the levels. I haven't played it yet, but it didn't look nearly as entertaining as WoL campaign, and maybe even easier

Meerel

Germany713 Posts

March 12 2013 04:50 GMT

#15

that was by far the worst campaigne i ever played lol, bad story, bad pacing, bad presentation, way too easy and way too short.

Ovni

89 Posts

March 12 2013 05:07 GMT

#16

it's a lot more challenging and fun if you go for the master achievements

BEARDiaguz

Australia2362 Posts

March 12 2013 05:16 GMT

#17

Did it in 9, even with watching all the cinematics and talking to everyone.

Game is signicifcantly easier even on brutal. It gives you a much larger economy to play around with every level so you can just drone 2 bases and max out on something you like, plus kerrigan gets stupidly fucking overpowered stupidly fucking fast.

Maybe the achievements do make it harder. Dunno.

Trasko

Sweden983 Posts

March 12 2013 05:17 GMT

#18

I've heard so many mixed reactions about the campaign. It'll be nice to try out for myself.. But I do get the overall impression that it is easier compared to WoL, and a different type of experience.

noD

2230 Posts

March 12 2013 05:28 GMT

#19

Not easier people are just better e after 3 years... Plus zerg OP (jk well not really...)

ETisME

12384 Posts

March 12 2013 06:02 GMT

#20

On March 12 2013 13:50 Terranlover wrote:
that was by far the worst campaigne i ever played lol, bad story, bad pacing, bad presentation, way too easy and way too short.

Your statement doesn't mean anything. I can list at least 50 games with a shorter and worse campaign than hots