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Brutal NUR, Marine only

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Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 14:06:54
September 23 2010 07:19 GMT
#1
Edit: For skill-level I am an 1100 diamond zerg player, my only terran experience is from the campaign and a few 3v3 or 4v4 games.

I said I'd try it in the original Brutal No upgrade run thread, and I've now had the time to knock a few of these out.

The rules:
The only units that may be trained are marines and SCVs (this includes not being allowed to summon mercenaries)
No between mission armoury upgrades or research may be used
Difficulty is obviously Brutal
Protoss missions, only zealots are allowed to be built.
This means my primary unit will be marines without stim, combat shield, or medics to heal them.

I am able to build bunkers and turrets though, so i expect to be using plenty of those...
I also can use the units granted to me at the start of the mission, or as rescues throughout(this does not mean I can build more of those though)

So far I've done:

1 - Liberation Day (no VOD)
2 - The Oulaws (no VOD)
3 - Zero Hour (no VOD)
4 - Smash and Grab
5 - The Devil's Playground
6 - Welcome to the Jungle
7 - The Great Train Robbery
8 - Cutthroat
9 - The Dig
10 - Engine of Destruction
11 - Media Blitz
12 - Breakout (no VOD)
13 - Moebius Factor
14 - Piercing the Shroud (no VOD)
15 - The Evacuation
16 - Outbreak
17 - Safe Haven
18 - Supernova
19 - Maw of th Void
20 - Whispers of Doom (No VOD)
21 - A Sinister Turn
22 - Echoes of the Future
23 - In Utter Darkness
24 - Gates of Hell
25a - Shatter the Sky
25b - Belly of the Beast (No VOD)

I have gotten camtasia working adequetly and have begun uploading to youtube. It will be a bit before I get all of the one's I've done so far uploaded. I started getting huge lag spikes during the dig, so those may appear in the video too...

http://www.youtube.com/user/ShiladieSC


I have done the protoss missions with just zealots to compliment this run and try and make it complete.

I will be going back and doing the alternate missions I missed after I finish All-in (mostly talking haven's fall here)
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
September 23 2010 07:28 GMT
#2
haha good luck....even if you complete everything else, all in is going to be RIDICULOUSLY hard. i'd love to see a video if you manage to complete it
Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
September 23 2010 07:41 GMT
#3
All In will be easy if you allow yourself to use the zerg mind control tower. Otherwise it'll be completely impossible. Maw of the Void might be impossible.
hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
September 23 2010 07:51 GMT
#4
What about mobius?
You should just allow youself to use a single Hercules.
People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
DHD
Profile Joined September 2010
United States18 Posts
September 23 2010 08:47 GMT
#5
why do this? and yeah , maw of the void will be impossible
TheDominator
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
New Zealand336 Posts
September 23 2010 08:57 GMT
#6
wow. this will be difficult. seven levels though... but the last level will be IMPOSSIBLE. crazy impossible. good luck!
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professorjoak
Profile Joined July 2008
318 Posts
September 23 2010 09:17 GMT
#7
Beside the obvious All In problem, think for just one second about Maw of the Void. There's clearly no way to kill all the shield generators with just marines+dts or 1 battlecruiser.
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teekesselchen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany886 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 09:46:02
September 23 2010 09:44 GMT
#8
I think Maw of the Void will be absolutely impossible. I guess the marines can't even reach the generators before dying. All in... maybe with enough planetary fortresses, yeah.
The Dig has quite some Colossi in the later stages so I don't see how you can tell that it will be so easy? :D
Haven's fall on the other hand doesn't sound too hard to me.
When they were introduced, he made a witticism, hoping to be liked. She laughed extremely hard, hoping to be liked. Then each drove home alone, staring straight ahead, with the very same twist to their faces.
The Touch
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom667 Posts
September 23 2010 11:53 GMT
#9
Good luck on the Ihan Crystal missions :p

Seriously though, I'm interested in watching the vids of your successes. It sounds like a fun and interesting (though extremely frustrating) challenge.
You Got The Touch
Macavenger
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1132 Posts
September 23 2010 13:53 GMT
#10
Haven's Fall doesn't seem like it would be too bad, and if you're not going for 29/29 do Safe Haven instead and it should be really easy. I did it with pure Medic/Marine once and it was really easy, like the first three losing Medics shouldn't change much. The Nexuses were obviously trivial, and for the Purifier you just keep all your Marines clumped together and run directly up to the Mothership, run into the Vortex once it pops, then right click the Mothership afterwards. With ~100 Marines it evaporates in about 2 seconds.
ohlala
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany232 Posts
September 23 2010 14:15 GMT
#11
why are you people doing this to yourself?
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
September 23 2010 14:27 GMT
#12
I would say due to certain map mechanics like.... kill-everything-in-this-radius in Maw, your proposed marine-play will go unfinished. Colossi on The Dig will completely f you up unless you bunker up like crazy. Without being able to get any research either... you're boned. But best of luck to you in your bloody marine struggle!
Sup.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 14:57:24
September 23 2010 14:53 GMT
#13
Maw is going to be insanely difficult, though the DTs and starting BCs might be able to manage it somehow?

Gates of Hell should be no problem really, so many rescued units and marines work great in general for blasting through to the nydus worms.

All-in should be impossible. You won't be able to kill the nydus worms consistently and ultras should have their old stats of generic damage meaning they'll rip apart marines. You can go air but... lol hahahahaaha good luck with that. I guess if you can keep the 2-3 BCs you start with alive you have a shot, but I kinda doubt it.

What about the mobius mission (the one with Kerrigan rampaging through a city). You'll have what, 2 medivacs to complete the mission with? Seems very impractical.
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MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
September 23 2010 15:06 GMT
#14
Haha, I thought the Brutal NUR thread was going to be stupid hard on All-In, this takes the cake. Marines against mass Ultra? No tanks? Marines against mass Brood Lord? No Medic support? Rofl, glhf with that!

if you manage it though!
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Triky
Profile Joined September 2010
Peru99 Posts
September 23 2010 15:06 GMT
#15
wow, this would be very very hard :O
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Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
September 23 2010 16:10 GMT
#16
I have a plan for maw that will be fucked up if it works, otherwise I'm planning on doing it very slowly with yammato cannon from the original BC to kill detection.

The dig will be easy, but take a while. My plan is to just bunker up and snipe off all the immortals+colossus with the laser.

Gates of hell I think will be easier then i first thought, my concern was that without upgrades the marines may be torn apart and unable to get to the rescue points.

Supernova, my concern is the HTs that will rape a marine force, I'll probably end up doing this by cheesing the last base by letting the fire kill everything and then hoping to last-hit the temple.

Mobius I'm not too worried about, enough rescue troops, and I think I know a quick and dirty way to get the last base.

For All-in, I have a few different plans for fucked up strats that may work, I'm tossing between which version will be easier(less impossible), as I have cheese strats going through my head for both right now. I'll probably need to do the ground version because of broodlords though.

When(if?) I get to all-in I'll probably start streaming if it doesn't mess with fraps (total video capture noob here)
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
September 23 2010 16:17 GMT
#17
On September 23 2010 20:53 The Touch wrote:
Good luck on the Ihan Crystal missions :p

Seriously though, I'm interested in watching the vids of your successes. It sounds like a fun and interesting (though extremely frustrating) challenge.


Heh, I could probably do zealot only, utter darkness would be the killer, I'd need to micro the troops given nearly perfectly...
JHancho
Profile Joined May 2010
United States166 Posts
September 23 2010 16:20 GMT
#18
To answer your encoding question...

Camtasia works alright, as does Sony Vegas. You can also look into Virtual Dub (free!).

And GL, though I suspect you'll need a little more than that.
Take it easy. And if it is easy, it must be cheese
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
September 23 2010 16:55 GMT
#19
On September 24 2010 01:20 JHancho wrote:
To answer your encoding question...

Camtasia works alright, as does Sony Vegas. You can also look into Virtual Dub (free!).

And GL, though I suspect you'll need a little more than that.


tyty, I'll see if I can grab one of those off demonoid or somewhere
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
September 23 2010 17:06 GMT
#20
Doing ALL missions or just campaign?

I highly doubt Safe Haven is possible with just marines, the purifier will destroy your base long befoer you can kill the last nexus.


I also thing the Dig would be difficult, you might actually just run out of minerals.
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