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Brutal NUR (No Upgrades Run)

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Zades
Profile Joined April 2010
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 20:14:05
August 23 2010 02:05 GMT
#1
I got this idea off the Battle.net forums and decided to try it out.

Basically I will attempt to beat the Wings of Liberty Campaign on Brutal difficulty without getting any upgrades or use any of the Zerg / Protoss technology. I will also attempt to do this on all 29 possible missions. For the choices I will go back in archives and do them.

As proof I will try to get videos up as fast as I can but as my upload speed is slower than a turtle's it will take a lot of time after I beat missions before the videos are up.

Also I will do these at the lowest setting possible so the recording won't lag as much.

Now for some of the things I need to iron out:

Should I go for all bonus objectives as well? This complicate things since if I do not go for the bonus objectives, on some levels I can easily 'cheese' through.

And should I do all missions as they are made to do or though some sort of shortcut (Like the 4 minute Echoes of the Future mission)?

I'll keep this updated.

Completed Missions so far
Order - Mission Name - In Game Completion Time
(Youtube links will be posts when they finish uploading)
Youtube links have been hidden in spoiler tags


1 - Liberation Day - 5:18
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2 - The Oulaws - 13:01
+ Show Spoiler +

3 - Zero Hour - 20:12
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09UBqKTQACw

4 - The Evacuation - 22:26
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64I8Nr7l0Bk

5 - Smash and Grab - 21:30
+ Show Spoiler +

6 - The Devil's Playground - 34:25
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGaR6a1ywgA

7 - Outbreak - 44:00
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoyhcSqnD74


8 - The Great Train Robbery - 20:52
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9crE0SiwVks

9 - The Dig - 47:37
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDgBrornLn4


10 - Haven's Fall - 1:23:09
--Will not be uploaded until much later when I redo the mission to shorten the time--
11 - Welcome to the Jungle - 20:19
+ Show Spoiler +

12 - The Moebius Factor - 22:56
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7R_p4hqNLU

13 - Cutthroat - 38:50
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKKNnlodhNA


14 - Ghost of a Chance - 26:48
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF8TIKpZ7Lg

15 - Breakout - 27:22
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot7Hy_J0ACM

16 - Safe Haven - 21:58
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T963LsggAaQ

17 - Supernova - 16:18
+ Show Spoiler +

18 - Engine of Destruction - 32:08
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OXUXUvZOfo

19 - Media Blitz - 44:12
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJYQpOBlPEU


20 - Piercing the Shroud - 25:01
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFXkolvvu0Q

21 - Maw of the Void - 44:26
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPix3xTznvg


And on to Char we go (yes I'm not doing the prophecy missions as those do not use upgrades anyways)
22 - Gates of Hell - 1:10:05
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt3-fI-LI4Q




23 - Shatter the Sky - 49:05
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2zKMOc6Mk0


24 - Belly of the Beast -31:37
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0_JRW4l200


HELP NEEDED!
I need you guys to come up with as many crazy ideas (but it must be somewhat theoretically possible to beat both All In air and nydus!



Discuss.
jackb
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany16 Posts
August 23 2010 02:15 GMT
#2
While you're at it, you should only use units you unlocked by doing prequesites to the specific missions.
See http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Campaign
For example, don't use Banshees in Welcome to the Jungle. Only use them in Supernova and Maw of the Void. =)

That way it's truly a minimalistic playthrough!

Imho you should do all bonus objectives. Taking shortcuts is fine, I guess, as long as you do all objectives.
brocoli
Profile Joined February 2010
Brazil264 Posts
August 23 2010 02:24 GMT
#3
I'd say choose a subtheme to complement "Brutal NUR": speed or minimalist/completionist.

If you go for speed, try to clear the missions as fast as possible, using units from other mission branches (this means you'll have to plan out which units to get first, etc...). Don't do optional objectives if you can avoid it.

If you go for mismalist/completionist, then do as jackb said.


I'd prefer to see the speed-oriented one, since minimalist runs can become boring :S
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
August 23 2010 03:41 GMT
#4
a valid strategy! I honestly don't think it'll be awfully difficult, with one or two minor exceptions, you're pretty much kicking yourself in the balls as far as medic marine goes, as you won't have stim, reactor meds, shields or stabilizers. those make all the difference on brutal. I think I could do without anything else, but don't take my stim oh god.
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PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
August 23 2010 03:46 GMT
#5
i dont know how you'll be able to do this., realistically you only need a few upgrades. and with no technology man i just dunno... good luck
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
August 23 2010 03:51 GMT
#6
I don't see All In happening with no upgrades.
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
ReCharge
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Philippines505 Posts
August 23 2010 03:53 GMT
#7
^ +1 Even if you are Fantasy, Nada, Morrow or whoever progamer, I don't think even they can do it without upgrades.
David Kim for Bonjwa!
Zades
Profile Joined April 2010
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 03:59:28
August 23 2010 03:54 GMT
#8
I might do it like jackb said but I'll try for the fastest time given those conditions.

I'm currently at Outbreak / Smash and Grab / Devil's Playground

Am I allowed to use reapers from Devil's Playground in Outbreak?

And we may never know if All In is possible. But I shall attempt it.

On August 23 2010 12:41 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
a valid strategy! I honestly don't think it'll be awfully difficult, with one or two minor exceptions, you're pretty much kicking yourself in the balls as far as medic marine goes, as you won't have stim, reactor meds, shields or stabilizers. those make all the difference on brutal. I think I could do without anything else, but don't take my stim oh god.


Yea no stim, no reactored medics, no shields, no healing +. You have no idea how annoying this is.
tru_power22
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada385 Posts
August 23 2010 04:03 GMT
#9
This will be interesting to see - best of luck!

I will be following this thread.
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
August 23 2010 04:24 GMT
#10
Good luck! I NEED reactor'd medics haha.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
August 23 2010 04:58 GMT
#11
Good luck but I doubt you'll be able to beat All In without upgrades. I'll be watching your progress though as this does seem like an interesting challenge.
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
August 23 2010 05:08 GMT
#12
I'm all for beating the missions however you can -- all that matters is that you didn't take those upgrades. Cheesy strategies, units from way up the mission line, whatever it takes. The criteria is no upgrades, so that's the only thing you ought to stick to.
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monad
Profile Joined March 2010
United States156 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 05:18:44
August 23 2010 05:17 GMT
#13
On August 23 2010 11:05 Zades wrote:
I will also attempt to do this on all 29 possible missions.


Maybe this is Captain Obvious speaking, but feel free to skip the prophecy missions

i think the first big road block will be Welcome to the Jungle.
professorjoak
Profile Joined July 2008
318 Posts
August 23 2010 05:27 GMT
#14
Prediction: OP completes 28 missions without too much difficulty then gets roflstomped trying to do All In.

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Most missions can be beaten with "mass the new unit," so no upgrades won't be too big of a deal until All In and it suddenly is.
"The different branches of Arithmetic -- Ambition, Distraction, Uglification, and Derision." --Lewis Carroll
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9571 Posts
August 23 2010 05:32 GMT
#15
Welcome to the Jungle will be hard as fuck for you. GL anyway.
I passed most of my missions with mnm on brutal, I can't imagine some of them without medics and stim :<. I guess you'll be going mech heavy in the later missions since mnm without stim and medic upgrades is pretty useless.
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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
August 23 2010 05:41 GMT
#16
I could see doing this with just marine/medic/tank upgrades, but without them some levels are going to be rough. The last level should be near impossible without any upgrades or research I would think.
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
August 23 2010 05:43 GMT
#17
i thought of this NUR challenge before as well but after playing brutal, i was like...this is kinda hard... and then i thought how much harder it would be to do it without any upgrades >.< and then i gave up on the idea.
...from the land of imba
monad
Profile Joined March 2010
United States156 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 05:52:01
August 23 2010 05:50 GMT
#18
I can only assume he's going to do nydus for All In. But that means no Planetary Fortress, no stimmed marines, no bunker turrets or capacity upgrades, no psi disrupter, no tech reactor for tanks, no gas upgrade for tanks, no mercs, no thors with stunlock. So yea, I really just don't know. But GL
SnowJob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States21 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 06:08:05
August 23 2010 06:07 GMT
#19
It hurts trying to imagine playing brutal All In without siege tank upgrades, mules, gas boost, +15% attack speed, tech reactors, double SCV repair, building damage control, planetary fortresses, most of the mercs or even any bunker upgrades. You do get to use the artifact as often as possible, though, and that's worth a lot.

And should I do all missions as they are made to do or though some sort of shortcut (Like the 4 minute Echoes of the Future mission)?


You can just about skip the Zeratul line. Upgrades can't go into those missions and you won't be taking anything out of them, so it's the same as normally playing the levels on Brutal. IMO you should be willing to compromise secondary objectives if it gets too hard.
Triscuit
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States722 Posts
August 23 2010 06:15 GMT
#20
Can't wait to watch these videos, actually.
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