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monkiw
Profile Joined May 2011
19 Posts
February 17 2013 03:52 GMT
#101
Definitely agree, it is very hard to notice that I have idle workers and I would like for blizzard to revert it back to the way it is in WoL.
Zerum
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden348 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 05:26:01
February 17 2013 05:24 GMT
#102
I think it is a lot better now because it is closer to the minimap. When ever you are not doing something you look at the minimap, when you are doing things you don't need to look at the screen while doing you look at the minimap, when you are going in for a attack you first look at the minimap. All of those times your eyes cross the idle worker icon now. I don't think I ever noticed it in WoL as it was in a place I pretty much would never look. The only things there is some text that stuff finished building I think, but they also made a sound witch is much easier to notice.

Edit: I know it's is barely even a cm lower on my screen than before. But I feel it have made a huge difference.
DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
February 17 2013 05:49 GMT
#103
On February 17 2013 14:24 Zerum wrote:
I think it is a lot better now because it is closer to the minimap. When ever you are not doing something you look at the minimap, when you are doing things you don't need to look at the screen while doing you look at the minimap, when you are going in for a attack you first look at the minimap. All of those times your eyes cross the idle worker icon now. I don't think I ever noticed it in WoL as it was in a place I pretty much would never look. The only things there is some text that stuff finished building I think, but they also made a sound witch is much easier to notice.

Edit: I know it's is barely even a cm lower on my screen than before. But I feel it have made a huge difference.

I agree. We are expected to notice a tiny red dot on the minimap when a drop is coming but having to look at the worker idle indicator instead of having it flash up at us it too much? People just need to adapt.
"Poor guy. I really did not deserve that win. So this is what it's like to play Protoss..." - IdrA
Shade_FR
Profile Joined June 2010
France378 Posts
February 18 2013 06:21 GMT
#104
On February 14 2013 09:42 Celestia wrote:
I like the new one, the old one is kind of annoying, usually because I know I have an idle worker for some reason but this big button just keeps bothering me, new one is better.

The point of a notification, is to notice you, right ? If you can't see it clearly, this is a problem. If you want to ignore this kind of important information it's fine, but it's a problem for a ton of players right now.
EU Zerg player - Streaming @ http://twitch.tv/shade_cst
BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
February 18 2013 07:00 GMT
#105
yes, it is harder to read...i use ~ key to find out where my idle workers are....
Big Red Dog!
Discarder
Profile Joined July 2012
Philippines411 Posts
February 18 2013 07:51 GMT
#106
yes. change it pls
You can take the lion out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of the lion
FreDMouL
Profile Joined April 2011
France59 Posts
February 18 2013 08:13 GMT
#107
Agree a lot !
Hard to notice idle workers
My better is better than your better
Kvassten
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden159 Posts
February 19 2013 13:54 GMT
#108
How about making the players choose which symbol we want? Do something in the gameplay menu in option where you can click a box to choose if you want WoL style or HotS style.
ineversmile
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States583 Posts
February 19 2013 18:05 GMT
#109
They put this change into the WoL patch.
Nostradamus.146@AM, Nostradamus.398@KR, Nostradamus.922@EU http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/ins
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
February 19 2013 20:14 GMT
#110
They should make it a giant pop up in the middle of the screen!

Seriously, this sounds like a change people love to hate instead of having credible concerns. They moved it to a location you should be paying attention to, and the hotkey(s) for the function are the same. If you can teach yourself to use the old button, you can teach yourself to use the new one.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
February 19 2013 20:27 GMT
#111
This thread won't die.....

Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
February 19 2013 20:31 GMT
#112
yar it does piss me off since i play zerg especially lol but at the same time its kinda like it'll make it harder to separate top players from the next tier below them if there was no idle worker button at all O_O (voted for WOL idle worker button tho :D )
JD, need I say more? :D
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
February 19 2013 20:32 GMT
#113
On February 20 2013 05:27 Thieving Magpie wrote:
This thread won't die.....


Why would it die?
MarkCJ
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada239 Posts
February 19 2013 20:42 GMT
#114
It's just because were used to the WoL button, it's neater this way I think. Just give it time and we'll get used to it.
"Roses are red, QoP is blue, Anti-Mage is imba, so fuck you." Startale_Life | SKT_Bisu Hwaiting!
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
February 19 2013 22:50 GMT
#115
On February 20 2013 05:32 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 05:27 Thieving Magpie wrote:
This thread won't die.....


Why would it die?


Its a thread about the size of a tiny square that was smaller than a Thor and now is still smaller than a Thor in the same corner of the screen...

It's like someone whining about screen ratio, shade density, splash shape of overlord blood, etc....

It's meaningless.

If someone whined that Stalkers shoot whitish blue shots and not something more clear like red shots the thread would be closed. This one isn't.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
ineversmile
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States583 Posts
February 20 2013 02:34 GMT
#116
On February 20 2013 07:50 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 05:32 aksfjh wrote:
On February 20 2013 05:27 Thieving Magpie wrote:
This thread won't die.....


Why would it die?


Its a thread about the size of a tiny square that was smaller than a Thor and now is still smaller than a Thor in the same corner of the screen...

It's like someone whining about screen ratio, shade density, splash shape of overlord blood, etc....

It's meaningless.


It means whole hell of a lot to a whole hell of a lot of pros who have played hundreds of games with it in HotS Beta, and now the shitty feature has been implemented in WoL.

You're the only one who thinks this way, it's not meaningless, and in all likelihood you will never be as good as some of the people "whining" in a million, billion fucking years. When Grubby, Zelniq, Pokebunny, the cast of State of the Game, and a shitload of other people are not happy with this UI change, you are blatantly wrong.

If someone whined that Stalkers shoot whitish blue shots and not something more clear like red shots the thread would be closed. This one isn't.


People can see stalker shots because they are bright whitish-blue shots that have stark contrast to basically everything on the screen behind them. That's how the old Idle Worker button was, too--it was a techy-colored navy blue icon that was contrasted to the map in the background. And it went from being non-existent to being there, not from being gray to being blue. This change is ENORMOUS. If you don't think that's the case, you've probably never used the icon in the first place...in which case, what stake do you even have in this discussion?
Nostradamus.146@AM, Nostradamus.398@KR, Nostradamus.922@EU http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/ins
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
February 20 2013 03:27 GMT
#117
On February 20 2013 11:34 ineversmile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 07:50 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On February 20 2013 05:32 aksfjh wrote:
On February 20 2013 05:27 Thieving Magpie wrote:
This thread won't die.....


Why would it die?


Its a thread about the size of a tiny square that was smaller than a Thor and now is still smaller than a Thor in the same corner of the screen...

It's like someone whining about screen ratio, shade density, splash shape of overlord blood, etc....

It's meaningless.


It means whole hell of a lot to a whole hell of a lot of pros who have played hundreds of games with it in HotS Beta, and now the shitty feature has been implemented in WoL.

You're the only one who thinks this way, it's not meaningless, and in all likelihood you will never be as good as some of the people "whining" in a million, billion fucking years. When Grubby, Zelniq, Pokebunny, the cast of State of the Game, and a shitload of other people are not happy with this UI change, you are blatantly wrong.

Show nested quote +
If someone whined that Stalkers shoot whitish blue shots and not something more clear like red shots the thread would be closed. This one isn't.


People can see stalker shots because they are bright whitish-blue shots that have stark contrast to basically everything on the screen behind them. That's how the old Idle Worker button was, too--it was a techy-colored navy blue icon that was contrasted to the map in the background. And it went from being non-existent to being there, not from being gray to being blue. This change is ENORMOUS. If you don't think that's the case, you've probably never used the icon in the first place...in which case, what stake do you even have in this discussion?

So, why not advocate for a giant icon and warning in the middle of your screen instead of a slightly different icon at the lower left that seems out of place?
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 03:54:03
February 20 2013 03:52 GMT
#118
your sarcasm doesn't make any interesting points, aksfjh. obviously the icon should not get in the way for the player, but it should be noticeable enough that most people will notice it. as of right now, the majority of players, many pros included, do not notice it, despite looking at minimap. it's because the color blends in with the race-specific UI around the bottom panel, like the zergy spines crawling all over the ui, it's the same color and same type of look, making it pretty hard to notice. also there's a select army button next to it that looks the same, that doesn't help either.

if you go into a replay, you won't get a race-specific ui and you'll see a default, very plain metallic UI around the bottom panel, and so even if they had the new idle worker button that we're complaining about, it would be a lot more noticeable cus it would not blend in with the surroundings.
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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
February 20 2013 17:42 GMT
#119
On February 20 2013 11:34 ineversmile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 07:50 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On February 20 2013 05:32 aksfjh wrote:
On February 20 2013 05:27 Thieving Magpie wrote:
This thread won't die.....


Why would it die?


Its a thread about the size of a tiny square that was smaller than a Thor and now is still smaller than a Thor in the same corner of the screen...

It's like someone whining about screen ratio, shade density, splash shape of overlord blood, etc....

It's meaningless.


It means whole hell of a lot to a whole hell of a lot of pros who have played hundreds of games with it in HotS Beta, and now the shitty feature has been implemented in WoL.

You're the only one who thinks this way, it's not meaningless, and in all likelihood you will never be as good as some of the people "whining" in a million, billion fucking years. When Grubby, Zelniq, Pokebunny, the cast of State of the Game, and a shitload of other people are not happy with this UI change, you are blatantly wrong.

Show nested quote +
If someone whined that Stalkers shoot whitish blue shots and not something more clear like red shots the thread would be closed. This one isn't.


People can see stalker shots because they are bright whitish-blue shots that have stark contrast to basically everything on the screen behind them. That's how the old Idle Worker button was, too--it was a techy-colored navy blue icon that was contrasted to the map in the background. And it went from being non-existent to being there, not from being gray to being blue. This change is ENORMOUS. If you don't think that's the case, you've probably never used the icon in the first place...in which case, what stake do you even have in this discussion?


You're right...

We must remove features that we find difficult to learn. Thank you, I didn't realize that.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 17:48:43
February 20 2013 17:46 GMT
#120
On February 20 2013 12:27 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 11:34 ineversmile wrote:
On February 20 2013 07:50 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On February 20 2013 05:32 aksfjh wrote:
On February 20 2013 05:27 Thieving Magpie wrote:
This thread won't die.....


Why would it die?


Its a thread about the size of a tiny square that was smaller than a Thor and now is still smaller than a Thor in the same corner of the screen...

It's like someone whining about screen ratio, shade density, splash shape of overlord blood, etc....

It's meaningless.


It means whole hell of a lot to a whole hell of a lot of pros who have played hundreds of games with it in HotS Beta, and now the shitty feature has been implemented in WoL.

You're the only one who thinks this way, it's not meaningless, and in all likelihood you will never be as good as some of the people "whining" in a million, billion fucking years. When Grubby, Zelniq, Pokebunny, the cast of State of the Game, and a shitload of other people are not happy with this UI change, you are blatantly wrong.

If someone whined that Stalkers shoot whitish blue shots and not something more clear like red shots the thread would be closed. This one isn't.


People can see stalker shots because they are bright whitish-blue shots that have stark contrast to basically everything on the screen behind them. That's how the old Idle Worker button was, too--it was a techy-colored navy blue icon that was contrasted to the map in the background. And it went from being non-existent to being there, not from being gray to being blue. This change is ENORMOUS. If you don't think that's the case, you've probably never used the icon in the first place...in which case, what stake do you even have in this discussion?

So, why not advocate for a giant icon and warning in the middle of your screen instead of a slightly different icon at the lower left that seems out of place?


You're making a pretty big deal about the people making a big deal about it. All anyone is asking for is the WoL idle worker setup back, that is far from unreasonable. They didn't need to change it, all it has done is made playing the game more annoying than it has to be....for presumably no reason at all.
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