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On January 27 2013 16:40 Goldfish wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 16:32 RiceAgainst wrote:
I'm getting roughly 50k/25 minute (as Protoss) games vs AI Ladder. Anyone getting better exp gain rates by themselves (no buddies)? I might try the 4v4 thing. I like playing vs the AI because it semi-forces me to play as if they were a ladder opponent, so I keep my skill/APM in check and I don't get bored as quickly. I'm getting 50k+ exp (at least) / 22 mins as Terran (this was last game though, I never counted the average). So on Protoss and Zerg, it may be a bit faster than what I can gain as Terran (assuming you're spamming as much structures, units as possible). Again in 4v4s (with comp allies), you basically have unlimited money (just keep requesting money from the AI, it's the button on the top right screen). Remember set it to hard, or harder (at very hard and above, it's likely that your computer AIs will go down if you take their minerals/gas because Very Hard computers like to just mass a few units and attack within 5-6 minutes of the game).
Ah okay, so it's not too significant of a gain (though it does add up). I might just stick to my way then. I'll try the 4v4 a couple times and see if I can gain a lot more using Protoss. Thanks though.
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For zerg, what i do is make on a big map and have 3 hard ai on my side and 2 medium ai on their side. Strat set to econ focus and just send them to mass expand. I rush 2 base hive (using their resources ofc) while slowly expanding as well. By 9 minutes, i have enough to make ultras and i build a nydus + 5-6 spines around that nydus. At around 10 minutes (should have about 80~ workers), i can constantly spam about 14 ultras and send them to the nydus, kill nydus rinse repeat!
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On January 27 2013 16:55 phodacbiet wrote:
For zerg, what i do is make on a big map and have 3 hard ai on my side and 2 medium ai on their side. Strat set to econ focus and just send them to mass expand. I rush 2 base hive (using their resources ofc) while slowly expanding as well. By 9 minutes, i have enough to make ultras and i build a nydus + 5-6 spines around that nydus. At around 10 minutes (should have about 80~ workers), i can constantly spam about 14 ultras and send them to the nydus, kill nydus rinse repeat!
Nice idea. I forgot you can set the builds of AI. In that case, I could see the 4v4 strategy being more efficient this way.
Set your computers hard, econ focus against medium computers (who basically don't attack), then just mass produce units or structures.
How much exp per game do you get from this, and how long does the game take?
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Wow, the 4v4 strat actually works. I can hit the 50k before the reduction, before the 20 minute mark. Only problem is lag, since my PC is terrible. So yeah, set them to eco builds then just request minerals like crazy. Build a death ball, and a-move. ~60k at 22 minutes, with terrible terrible lag and macro.
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On January 27 2013 17:07 RiceAgainst wrote:
Wow, the 4v4 strat actually works. I can hit the 50k before the reduction, before the 20 minute mark. Only problem is lag, since my PC is terrible. So yeah, set them to eco builds then just request minerals like crazy. Build a death ball, and a-move. ~60k at 22 minutes, with terrible terrible lag and macro.
Oh! i dont attack them though haha. I just rally all my ultras to nydus, kill nydus, rinse repeat while keep requesting. Once the cap comes, i just kill the AI. I am gonna test this with 1 ai instead (just make sure ur ai dont go kill them).
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On January 27 2013 17:14 phodacbiet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 17:07 RiceAgainst wrote:
Wow, the 4v4 strat actually works. I can hit the 50k before the reduction, before the 20 minute mark. Only problem is lag, since my PC is terrible. So yeah, set them to eco builds then just request minerals like crazy. Build a death ball, and a-move. ~60k at 22 minutes, with terrible terrible lag and macro. Oh! i dont attack them though haha. I just rally all my ultras to nydus, kill nydus, rinse repeat while keep requesting. Once the cap comes, i just kill the AI. I am gonna test this with 1 ai instead (just make sure ur ai dont go kill them).
Protoss doesn't have a super quick way to kill their own units. =( Unless I go mass psi storm on mass high templar. The zerg one seems really good though. You still get the exp even if you don't kill the ai right? So you could save time by hitting the cap then F10+N -ing out.
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Idk i havent tried it yet, but as soon as i hit the cap (around 15~ minutes) i just a move and get my 55k. I feel like with terran maybe u can mass thors/ nuke? But then again i think mass orbitals might be faster since those things are 400 per
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Hey... i just thought of something. Since blizzard implemented a replay resume feature right.. why dont we just fast forward to the part where we can spam units and just do it over and over? This would save about 5-10 minutes since it skips the early game O_O. I wonder if that would work, but i dont have any friends on right now =*(
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On January 27 2013 17:45 phodacbiet wrote:
Hey... i just thought of something. Since blizzard implemented a replay resume feature right.. why dont we just fast forward to the part where we can spam units and just do it over and over? This would save about 5-10 minutes since it skips the early game O_O. I wonder if that would work, but i dont have any friends on right now =*(
I just tested this, playing a game from a replay doesn't give you any XP at all.
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On January 27 2013 18:55 Stingart wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 17:45 phodacbiet wrote:
Hey... i just thought of something. Since blizzard implemented a replay resume feature right.. why dont we just fast forward to the part where we can spam units and just do it over and over? This would save about 5-10 minutes since it skips the early game O_O. I wonder if that would work, but i dont have any friends on right now =*( I just tested this, playing a game from a replay doesn't give you any XP at all.
thats unfortunate =( Oh well, 55k per 17 ingame minutes isnt that bad.
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So sad if you actually care about this
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On January 27 2013 01:22 paralleluniverse wrote:As I've said on the B.net forums, this is completely outrageous and unfair.
It's hard to believe how people can react to these things...
If anyone wants the portrait, they can preorder and get into the beta
It's a portrait, calling it an outrageous act is just complete overacting.
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do you get more xp doing unranked or ranked games?
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On January 27 2013 19:04 MateShade wrote:
So sad if you actually care about this
Of course! When the game comes out these portraits will be like.. awesome looking! And fun is all objective, just because you do/dont find something fun doesnt mean other people will feel the same way. Look at blizzard's explanation of fun for d3 and look how that turned out.
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Oh nice to see everyone trying to find ways to farm it. Maybe thats why they implemented it to remove abuses haha.
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On January 27 2013 19:33 FeyFey wrote:
Oh nice to see everyone trying to find ways to farm it. Maybe thats why they implemented it to remove abuses haha.
still found a way though! Just not as fast =(
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Here is my idea for farming:
Find a friend (for bonus exp) and play on some map where u can get 4 bases both. Spam workers at the begining, then make mass AA defence (spores, cannons, turrets) in two different spots (one for each player). Next set rally point for air units that do not attack ground to enemy's AA spot (corruptors, vipers, overlords, vikings, medivacs, ravens, phoenix, warp prism, oracles).
This way both of you will get exp for building army and also for killing enemy units. Give up after 25-30 mins for max eficiency.
EDIT: I created group "Call to Action", so everyone who wants to try get some fast exp points, please join!
EDIT2: Looks like there is no friend bonus or its not always working when playing with a friend in a team.
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On January 27 2013 19:04 MateShade wrote:
So sad if you actually care about this
Even sadder that you found the time to say that it's sad some guys care about this.
I do care, let's the farming begin! Time is short. These things will not be able to get after beta closes, gogo!!
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Finally done with zerg! I got it down to around 16 30 average for 53k exp =D. Time to exploit protoss/terran tmr and give blizzard feedback on their beta! Btw, the view profile thing is broken at like level 22+ cause it says you need like -800,000 exp to get to next level. See... we are helping blizzard test!
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Exp reduce comes after a certaing amount of experience gained. Something like 50k.
Good news for p race. You can earn 50-60k for 15mins playing. Create 8 player map and add 7 AI's. All the AI's should be elite. Set all the opp's races to zerg with Roach Attack (Aggressive) build and a handicap set to 50%. Your opponets should be set to ecnomic build with 50% handicap. Macro for 5 minutes, start air weapon upgrade as soon as core is done. When it's 5 minute mark, request for gas and minerals. Build 5 stargates and star pumping voidrays. Keep requesting minerals. At around 10mins zergs will attack you or your allies. Kill all the roaches, split voidrays to 2 groups and start destroying your opp's bases. Keep requesting recources and build mass fleet beacons and nexi. You don't need much of vr's. 20 will be enough. As soon as you notice exp reduce, leave and create another game. My last record is 15 mins with 2 tries. So I guess it can be done even faster.
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