| Forum Index > StarCraft 2 HotS |
|
Dirkinity
Germany409 Posts
On January 27 2013 09:47 Existor wrote: It's not harder. Create 200 supply army as zerg, send it to Nydus, kill Nydus, remax. You got tons of exp in seconds just for making units nukes ftw... | ||
|
Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
Nuke can't insta kill 200 supply like Nydus :D | ||
|
Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qoBmKIb.png) | ||
|
paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On January 27 2013 02:26 -Kyo- wrote: I think you're confused. First off, 1955? What world are you living in? haha Second off, your whole argument is based on what people are or are not entitled to whether it be free or not. I'll let you in on a secret, whether it is or is not unfair doesn't matter. Why? Because you are not the developer and thus have no final impact on their bottom line. If they decide that to increase profits/beta participation they will offer a digital item at no cost to themselves, other than the one time coding, then they can do so. If you don't get the item: Tough luck, go complain somewhere else than a public forum. If you want beta and you preordered just order from somewhere else, get a code, and cancel - these are digital items they have an unlimited number of. You've already paid so you should have a code after the announcement on the 22nd or whatever. You can also contact Gamestop - they sent me FOUR for FREE on request. Moreover, if you've ever looked at console games almost all have started to rely on DLC content, or preorder content. The console market place made a drastic shift towards this around the time of Xbox 360 PS3 etc. It wasn't always like that, but that's what the game developers have decided and that's how it is. Just because they didn't do it before does not mean they have to oblige by your "fair" means of marketing. Really, you're just taking your subjective matter as "objective" unfairness. Is it fair for you to limit their profits? To limit their marketing team? To limit the growth of e-sports by getting more "stuff" out to people at no charge if it means they'll be more inclined to play? Your one dimensional complaining is sad. Bottom line, either take what they give you or contact their support with an issue - However, don't expect it to be changed. If that's not satisfactory don't buy their product. No one is going to give you money for leveling up, don't be a petty person. Sorry. You're highly confused. This is not DLC. So when you talk about limiting profits, you're going off on an unrelated tangent. Also, 1995. But it might as well be 1955, because all Blizzard beta from the very start to 2011, including the latest MoP beta has kept the beta separate from the live game. People have been asking Blizzard reward their beta participation in the past. They were rejected, because it's unfair. And it is. So Blizzard was doing it wrong all that time from 1995-2011 where they agreed on separating beta from the live game and maintaining fairness? On January 27 2013 02:37 TheFrankOne wrote: They give portraits to people who purchased their blizzcon premium ticket shit too. It's not really unprecedented. You are overstating the implications of this a bit. You don't get the warhound or caduceus reactor healing upgrade. Just a few achievement points and a couple portraits. Yes, they do give out portraits for Blizzcon. And two wrongs don't make a right. Yes, apart from Diablo 3, it is unprecedented, it hasn't been done before. In all the other betas, the live and beta were separate for fairness. Diablo 3 gave a banner as well, and that was rightly met with 170 pages of justifiable outrage. On January 27 2013 02:46 wongfeihung wrote: A fringe benefit of the leveling system, in addition to attracting casual players, is measuring activity of beta testers. If you reach level 30 during the beta, then you're probably actively engaging in beta testing (i.e. playing ladder). Blizzard rewards those who actively engage in beta testing. Why? Because beta testers help give feedback to Blizzard on how well-polished the game is so far (duh). Did you fully read and understand what Blizzard said in their announcement? Plenty of new games nowadays are rewarding alpha/beta testers and really early pre-purchases with "Founders" titles. This is potentially Blizzard's answer to the Founders titles of other games. Also, right before WoL was released, there were complaints that they players should be rewarded for being beta testers (as if playing a game 6 months before its release wasn't good enough); These portraits also cater to those people. Take a second and think about it before whining about "outrageous and unfair" treatment. Except Blizzard is NOT rewarding people for giving feedback. They're rewarding people who collude with friends to make millions of buildings and units and then nuking them. And people are already given a reward for providing feedback and actually testing the game. By being able to influence design, by being able to see the game before the general public, i.e. being in the beta. Nor should they reward people for giving feedback by dishing out exclusive content that is unavailable to those who are not lucky enough to get into beta. What about future players who haven't heard of the game yet? And even if they have access to the beta, why should they have to play on the beta to get this reward on their live account? This hasn't happened in any past beta. Yes, in the past, people have asked to be rewarded for being in the beta. They were rejected, then. And rightly so. What happened to equality of opportunity for all? If Blizzard wants to reward people for giving good feedback during the beta, then they can put them on an invite list for future betas, or give out gift cards. These are far better rewards that don't make the game unfair. | ||
|
HoriZoNXI
Australia310 Posts
| ||
|
Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On January 27 2013 12:08 HoriZoNXI wrote: Any tips for Protoss to quickly kill an army? Terran can nuke, Zerg can nydus kill etc... Play 1v1 against terran and ask him to nuke your army or use storms. Other idea is to 1v1 against Terran/Zerg with mass swarm hosts/siege tanks in the middle, and send all created units to siege/host line. He will have more exp, you will rebuild units endessly and gain exp too. | ||
|
gDubS91
United States22 Posts
| ||
|
paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On January 27 2013 12:45 gDubS91 wrote: Uhh instead of exploiting your way to max level, why don't you just play the game until you reach max level? It doesn't take all that long and its also how one learns how to play the game.... A portrait or max level is irrelevant if you suck at the game. It's better to exploit your way to max level, because it allows Blizzard to see this abuse as a major problem that needs to be fixed. The more exploiters the greater the urgency in fixing it. | ||
|
Dirkinity
Germany409 Posts
On January 27 2013 12:45 gDubS91 wrote: Uhh instead of exploiting your way to max level, why don't you just play the game until you reach max level? It doesn't take all that long and its also how one learns how to play the game.... A portrait or max level is irrelevant if you suck at the game. People always want to be special. And even if its a dumb portrait, If I got it and most others not - I want it! | ||
|
Sufinsil
United States760 Posts
Not the end of the world. | ||
|
Tuczniak
1561 Posts
On January 27 2013 12:21 Existor wrote: Do you gain XP from temporary units?Play 1v1 against terran and ask him to nuke your army or use storms. Other idea is to 1v1 against Terran/Zerg with mass swarm hosts/siege tanks in the middle, and send all created units to siege/host line. He will have more exp, you will rebuild units endessly and gain exp too. | ||
|
Goldfish
2230 Posts
On January 27 2013 12:45 gDubS91 wrote: Uhh instead of exploiting your way to max level, why don't you just play the game until you reach max level? It doesn't take all that long and its also how one learns how to play the game.... A portrait or max level is irrelevant if you suck at the game. 1. Some people can only play for a bit until HotS is released. While it may seem like there is plenty of time, 1 month to get the FoS achievement is a bit short. 2. I want to go back and play some WoL (especially after global play just came out). Also it doesn't help that HotS for me has been lagging badly (anyone else getting huge lag spikes while playing HotS? I can play WoL fine. Anyway, that's why there's a good reason to find a good way to exp. Nope. You can gain exp from only things that have resources. Anyone know if 77% exp reduction comes at a certain point in time or after you gain a certain amount of exp? I'll try to keep note of the time (usually when the 77% exp reduction kicks in, I'm at least 20 mins into the game). | ||
|
phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
On January 27 2013 14:05 Goldfish wrote: 1. Some people can only play for a bit until HotS is released. While it may seem like there is plenty of time, 1 month to get the FoS achievement is a bit short. 2. I want to go back and play some WoL (especially after global play just came out). Also it doesn't help that HotS for me has been lagging badly (anyone else getting huge lag spikes while playing HotS? I can play WoL fine. Anyway, that's why there's a good reason to find a good way to exp. Nope. You can gain exp from only things that have resources. Anyone know if 77% exp reduction comes at a certain point in time or after you gain a certain amount of exp? I'll try to keep note of the time (usually when the 77% exp reduction kicks in, I'm at least 20 mins into the game). It might kick in at about 22 minutes? Anyways anyone know an optimized way for leveling yet? | ||
|
hobbidude
Canada171 Posts
On January 27 2013 14:20 phodacbiet wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 27 2013 14:05 Goldfish wrote: 1. Some people can only play for a bit until HotS is released. While it may seem like there is plenty of time, 1 month to get the FoS achievement is a bit short. 2. I want to go back and play some WoL (especially after global play just came out). Also it doesn't help that HotS for me has been lagging badly (anyone else getting huge lag spikes while playing HotS? I can play WoL fine. Anyway, that's why there's a good reason to find a good way to exp. Nope. You can gain exp from only things that have resources. Anyone know if 77% exp reduction comes at a certain point in time or after you gain a certain amount of exp? I'll try to keep note of the time (usually when the 77% exp reduction kicks in, I'm at least 20 mins into the game). It might kick in at about 22 minutes? Anyways anyone know an optimized way for leveling yet? I did a custom game were i just massed banes and mined out the entire map. Gained about 150k exp. | ||
|
Rainling
United States456 Posts
| ||
|
phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
| ||
|
Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On January 27 2013 15:55 phodacbiet wrote: Scratch that, the exp diminishing return is for exp amount only, not a timer. At what limit? | ||
|
HoriZoNXI
Australia310 Posts
Edit: If it's experience based (which it most likely is) then it's definitely 50k exp. I can get 50k per 20 minutes on average with Protoss | ||
|
RiceAgainst
United States1849 Posts
| ||
|
Goldfish
2230 Posts
On January 27 2013 16:32 RiceAgainst wrote: I'm getting roughly 50k/25 minute (as Protoss) games vs AI Ladder. Anyone getting better exp gain rates by themselves (no buddies)? I might try the 4v4 thing. I like playing vs the AI because it semi-forces me to play as if they were a ladder opponent, so I keep my skill/APM in check and I don't get bored as quickly. I'm getting 50k+ exp (at least) / 22 mins as Terran (this was last game though, I never counted the average). So on Protoss and Zerg, it may be a bit faster than what I can gain as Terran (assuming you're spamming as much structures, units as possible). Again in 4v4s (with comp allies), you basically have unlimited money (just keep requesting money from the AI, it's the button on the top right screen). Remember set it to hard, or harder (at very hard and above, it's likely that your computer AIs will go down if you take their minerals/gas because Very Hard computers like to just mass a few units and attack within 5-6 minutes of the game). | ||
| ||
|
|
Replay Cast
The PondCast
KCM Race Survival
Escore
IntoTheTV X SOOP
CranKy Ducklings
Sparkling Tuna Cup
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
Spirit vs Mixu
Clem vs TBD
RSL Revival
Serral vs Rogue
BlizzCon
[ Show More ] |
|
|
EPT
