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UPDATE:
As a result of the leveling issues that several players experienced shortly after beta patch 2.0.3 was released, we have decided to lower the leveling requirement for the Feat of Strength and portraits. For each faction you manage to raise to level 5, you'll receive an exclusive character portrait specific to that race when Heart of the Swarm is released on March 12, 2013. Please note that even though these rewards are still tied to level 30 in the beta, each faction reward will be assigned to your permanent account when Swarm is released if you reach level 5, in the beta, with that faction. Once again, thank you all for thoroughly testing the leveling system during this phase of the beta. We sincerely apologize to everyone who encountered these leveling bugs and are extremely sorry to hear that so many of you were reverted back several levels as a result of yesterday’s change. We appreciate your patience and hope to see you all on the ladder soon. -Aldrexus http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7788739133?page=6#104
Now that those of you with Heart of the Swarm beta access have had some time to sink your teeth into the new features that arrived with Beta Patch 2.0.3, we kindly request your assistance in testing the leveling system. To honor your hard work and achievements during this time, we decided to create a few new rewards that you can earn through the leveling system. For each faction you manage to raise to level 30, you'll receive an exclusive character portrait specific to that race. If you'd like to unlock all three new portraits, you'll face the daunting task of reaching the maximum level with each race, for a total character level of 90. Here’s a look at what's up for grabs: Though some of these units are no longer with us, we felt each was representative of the beta experience in its own right, and that these portraits could be a fun way to show off your dedication as a Heart of the Swarm Beta tester. Once you’ve met the experience requirements detailed above, the level-30 portraits you’ve earned and a Feat of Strength achievement will transfer over to your permanent account when Heart of the Swarm is released on March 12, 2013. So get logged in, start up a game, and earn those rewards! Thank you for thoroughly testing the leveling system during this phase of the beta, and continuing to provide your constructive feedback for Heart of the Swarm. If you'd like to participate in the beta, you can gain access by pre-purchasing the game digitally on Battle.net.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/8528973/Call_to_Action_Heart_of_the_Swarm_Beta_Leveling-1_25_2013
Anyone else here going for this? What strategies are you using? How long is it taking? Also does anyone who recently leveled know if they reset the levels for this or are some people already at level 30?
I want to put together a guide for getting these achievements. If people could post what level they are and how much xp it takes I would appreciate it. Ill start
Level: Experience to reach level Level 1: 5000 Level 2: 45000 Level 3: 65000 Level 4: 85000 Level 5: 105000 Level 6: 125000 Level 7: 135000 Level 8: 140000 Level 9: 145000 Level 10: 150000 Level 11: 155000 Level 12: 160000 Level 13: 165000 Level 14: 170000 Level 15: 175000 Level 16: 177500 Level 17: 180000 Level 18: 182500 Level 19: 185000 Level 20: 187500 Level 21: 190000 Level 22: 192500 Level 23: 195000 Level 24: 197500 Level 25: 200000 Level 26: 202500 Level 27: 205000 Level 28: 207500 Level 29: 210000 Level 30: 212500
Bonus 10,000 Bonus XP for first Terran win of the day 10,000 Bonus XP for first Zerg win of the day 10,000 Bonus XP for first Protoss win of the day
Tips and Tricks
On January 27 2013 08:39 Goldfish wrote:
Play an 8 player map. Set 4 v 4 (3 computers on your side, 4 on the opponent).
Play the game on a big map like Vigilance or something like Megaton (though it depends on which difficulty you pick, I recommend at least Hard because below hard, the computer builds really slowly).
(On the higher difficulties, computers build really fast.)
Anyway, build stuff. At 5 minute mark, request resources from computers (they'll give it to you once they receive it). (Don't overdo this though, because if you do it too much, the computer won't have anything to build for themselves.)
With extra resources, you can mass units at 5 minute mark.
Also since it's a 4v4, more units on the field = more exp you gain by destroying units.
Finally, take note that after a certain point (I'm not sure if it's based on time or based on exp gain), all exp gain will be reduced by 77%.
(Exp gain is based on total resources the unit cost. A Thor is 300/200, which grants 500 exp. Supply depot is 100, which grants 100 exp. The same case for destroying units.)
On January 27 2013 16:08 HoriZoNXI wrote: [On 77% XP reduction limit] Maybe it's 50k? I'll try experimenting and instantly leaving when the exp reduction comes in
Edit: If it's experience based (which it most likely is) then it's definitely 50k exp. I can get 50k per 20 minutes on average with Protoss
On January 27 2013 09:47 Existor wrote: Create 200 supply army as zerg, send it to Nydus, kill Nydus, remax. You got tons of exp in seconds just for making units
On January 27 2013 20:50 Ch3rry wrote: Here is my idea for farming:
Find a friend (for bonus exp) and play on some map where u can get 4 bases both. Spam workers at the begining, then make mass AA defence (spores, cannons, turrets) in two different spots (one for each player). Next set rally point for air units that do not attack ground to enemy's AA spot (corruptors, vipers, overlords, vikings, medivacs, ravens, phoenix, warp prism, oracles).
This way both of you will get exp for building army and also for killing enemy units. Give up after 25-30 mins for max eficiency.
EDIT: I created group "Call to Action", so everyone who wants to try get some fast exp points, please join!
EDIT2: Looks like there is no friend bonus or its not always working when playing with a friend in a team.
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I'll be trying to go for these. Theres still alot of time left ^^
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
Hope those portraits with stars and honor wreaths are placeholders. They're so ugly now. I want normal arts on portraits!
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Bisutopia19042 Posts
Never got a beta key oh well that's a great way to get people playing more so I gotta say blizzard is at least thinking well.
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As I've said on the B.net forums, this is completely outrageous and unfair.
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I didn't know about these new portraits, i got the Warhound. How? I simply was at the right level to begin with, i enjoy playing HOTS and i've played plenty of it.
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outrageous is a big word everyone who pre-orders gets beta access. This might give me an incentive to play the other two races... but probably not enough Pretty cool tho.
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On January 27 2013 01:22 paralleluniverse wrote:As I've said on the B.net forums, this is completely outrageous and unfair.
Rofl what? If you pre order the game, which I mean you'll have to pay the same price for anyway.. just put $5 down?, you can get into beta. Moreover, getting level 30 takes no time at all... Your complaint is honestly just sad. 'outrageous and unfair' they'd give us something free if you're helping them test the game!!! What do you want ...
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People that have leveled each race to 30 and thereby helped blizzard with beta testing recieves a small reward for it? Seems fair to me.
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On January 27 2013 01:39 -Kyo- wrote:Rofl what? If you pre order the game, which I mean you'll have to pay the same price for anyway.. just put $5 down?, you can get into beta. Moreover, getting level 30 takes no time at all... Your complaint is honestly just sad. 'outrageous and unfair' they'd give us something free if you're helping them test the game!!! What do you want ... Not everyone who has preordered gets in. For example see this comment by NoahSon. Even if anyone can get into the beta, it still doesn't excuse it. Because it doesn't explain why Blizzard should now be giving in game rewards through a beta, when they haven't done so in all their betas from 1995-2011, they haven't done so in the latest MoP beta since it's not fair to those who aren't in the beta for whatever reason. What about future players?
Yes, outrageous and unfair that they'll give players something, not really free, exclusively to beta players while excluding players not in the beta, and breaking the usual precedence that beta and live are completely separate.
What do I want? For Blizzard to not give out these portraits on live account.
Blizzard should try $10 Amazon vouchers for the first 100 players to reach level 90.
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It's a portrait from a basically open beta. It's far from 'outrageous'.
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Do i need to get all lvl 30 to get them after release or do i just need to lvl one race to 30 ? Because im already lvl 29 protoss it didnt reset for me.
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
On January 27 2013 02:08 Mantaza wrote: Do i need to get all lvl 30 to get them after release or do i just need to lvl one race to 30 ? Because im already lvl 29 protoss it didnt reset for me. You need to reach 90th level which means 30 levels per race
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On January 27 2013 01:48 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 01:39 -Kyo- wrote:On January 27 2013 01:22 paralleluniverse wrote:As I've said on the B.net forums, this is completely outrageous and unfair. Rofl what? If you pre order the game, which I mean you'll have to pay the same price for anyway.. just put $5 down?, you can get into beta. Moreover, getting level 30 takes no time at all... Your complaint is honestly just sad. 'outrageous and unfair' they'd give us something free if you're helping them test the game!!! What do you want ... Not everyone who has preordered gets in. For example see this comment by NoahSon. Even if anyone can get into the beta, it still doesn't excuse it. Because it doesn't explain why Blizzard should now be giving in game rewards through a beta, when they haven't done so in all their betas from 1955-2011, they haven't done so in the latest MoP beta since it's not fair to those who aren't in the beta for whatever reason. What about future players? Yes, outrageous and unfair that they'll give players something, not really free, exclusively to beta players while excluding players not in the beta, and breaking the usual precedence that beta and live are completely separate. What do I want? For Blizzard to not give out these portraits on live account. Blizzard should try $10 Amazon vouchers for the first 100 players to reach level 90.
I think you're confused. First off, 1955? What world are you living in? haha Second off, your whole argument is based on what people are or are not entitled to whether it be free or not. I'll let you in on a secret, whether it is or is not unfair doesn't matter. Why? Because you are not the developer and thus have no final impact on their bottom line. If they decide that to increase profits/beta participation they will offer a digital item at no cost to themselves, other than the one time coding, then they can do so. If you don't get the item: Tough luck, go complain somewhere else than a public forum. If you want beta and you preordered just order from somewhere else, get a code, and cancel - these are digital items they have an unlimited number of. You've already paid so you should have a code after the announcement on the 22nd or whatever. You can also contact Gamestop - they sent me FOUR for FREE on request.
Moreover, if you've ever looked at console games almost all have started to rely on DLC content, or preorder content. The console market place made a drastic shift towards this around the time of Xbox 360 PS3 etc. It wasn't always like that, but that's what the game developers have decided and that's how it is. Just because they didn't do it before does not mean they have to oblige by your "fair" means of marketing. Really, you're just taking your subjective matter as "objective" unfairness. Is it fair for you to limit their profits? To limit their marketing team? To limit the growth of e-sports by getting more "stuff" out to people at no charge if it means they'll be more inclined to play? Your one dimensional complaining is sad.
Bottom line, either take what they give you or contact their support with an issue - However, don't expect it to be changed. If that's not satisfactory don't buy their product. No one is going to give you money for leveling up, don't be a petty person. Sorry.
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On January 27 2013 01:48 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 01:39 -Kyo- wrote:On January 27 2013 01:22 paralleluniverse wrote:As I've said on the B.net forums, this is completely outrageous and unfair. Rofl what? If you pre order the game, which I mean you'll have to pay the same price for anyway.. just put $5 down?, you can get into beta. Moreover, getting level 30 takes no time at all... Your complaint is honestly just sad. 'outrageous and unfair' they'd give us something free if you're helping them test the game!!! What do you want ... Not everyone who has preordered gets in. For example see this comment by NoahSon. Even if anyone can get into the beta, it still doesn't excuse it. Because it doesn't explain why Blizzard should now be giving in game rewards through a beta, when they haven't done so in all their betas from 1955-2011, they haven't done so in the latest MoP beta since it's not fair to those who aren't in the beta for whatever reason. What about future players? Yes, outrageous and unfair that they'll give players something, not really free, exclusively to beta players while excluding players not in the beta, and breaking the usual precedence that beta and live are completely separate. What do I want? For Blizzard to not give out these portraits on live account. Blizzard should try $10 Amazon vouchers for the first 100 players to reach level 90.
They give portraits to people who purchased their blizzcon premium ticket shit too. It's not really unprecedented. You are overstating the implications of this a bit. You don't get the warhound or caduceus reactor healing upgrade. Just a few achievement points and a couple portraits.
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On January 27 2013 01:48 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 01:39 -Kyo- wrote:On January 27 2013 01:22 paralleluniverse wrote:As I've said on the B.net forums, this is completely outrageous and unfair. Rofl what? If you pre order the game, which I mean you'll have to pay the same price for anyway.. just put $5 down?, you can get into beta. Moreover, getting level 30 takes no time at all... Your complaint is honestly just sad. 'outrageous and unfair' they'd give us something free if you're helping them test the game!!! What do you want ... Not everyone who has preordered gets in. For example see this comment by NoahSon. Even if anyone can get into the beta, it still doesn't excuse it. Because it doesn't explain why Blizzard should now be giving in game rewards through a beta, when they haven't done so in all their betas from 1955-2011, they haven't done so in the latest MoP beta since it's not fair to those who aren't in the beta for whatever reason. What about future players? Yes, outrageous and unfair that they'll give players something, not really free, exclusively to beta players while excluding players not in the beta, and breaking the usual precedence that beta and live are completely separate. What do I want? For Blizzard to not give out these portraits on live account. Blizzard should try $10 Amazon vouchers for the first 100 players to reach level 90. A fringe benefit of the leveling system, in addition to attracting casual players, is measuring activity of beta testers. If you reach level 30 during the beta, then you're probably actively engaging in beta testing (i.e. playing ladder). Blizzard rewards those who actively engage in beta testing. Why? Because beta testers help give feedback to Blizzard on how well-polished the game is so far (duh).
Did you fully read and understand what Blizzard said in their announcement?
Though some of these units are no longer with us, we felt each was representative of the beta experience in its own right, and that these portraits could be a fun way would be a fun way to show off your dedication as a Heart of the Swarm Beta tester. Plenty of new games nowadays are rewarding alpha/beta testers and really early pre-purchases with "Founders" titles. This is potentially Blizzard's answer to the Founders titles of other games. Also, right before WoL was released, there were complaints that they players should be rewarded for being beta testers (as if playing a game 6 months before its release wasn't good enough); These portraits also cater to those people.
Take a second and think about it before whining about "outrageous and unfair" treatment.
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I have a strange issue:
After a game, I am zerg level 11. On the overview, I am level 15 but with a negative XP. Is someone else having a similar issue?
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I feel compelled to do this now, but damn those are ugly portraits.
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United States4883 Posts
I reached level 30 on all races by like the 3rd week I got beta. I wish these things were actually difficult to achieve lol.
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ok, so what the heck are these units/characters anyways
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All of these portraits look stupid (the terran one the worst by far)... Wish they had something people actually wanted to achieve. Queen of blades, Tassadar and Nova are all really nice portraits, a tiny incentive to grind countless games...
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I miss the Mustache Guy, well time for some Terran !
We also should never tell the posters who find it outrageous, that they sometimes give out stuff if you attend Blizzcon. Their heads might explode, because only such a small percentage could get it.
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sorry to interject but can people in this thread post their level and how much xp is at that level?
Also how long it took them to level?
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On January 27 2013 01:22 paralleluniverse wrote:As I've said on the B.net forums, this is completely outrageous and unfair. I say your a cry baby and bravo to blizzard for awarding those who pre ordered and played that much throughout the beta
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anyone know how exactly these portraits going to transfer to your live account?
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On January 27 2013 01:22 paralleluniverse wrote:As I've said on the B.net forums, this is completely outrageous and unfair.
Really...People are so entitled now days. It's...a....portrait. It has literally almost no value. Even from an entertainment perspective, it's still a lame little picture. I hope you have more serious things to worry about in life
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On January 27 2013 05:41 Cloudshade wrote: anyone know how exactly these portraits going to transfer to your live account?
They just flag your bnet account, like the Diablo III pre-launch events.
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I got all excited by this, played three games, and remembered how much this game bores me.
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So whats the easiest method to level? Play vs CPU on easy and build 500ccs? :D
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On January 27 2013 07:11 Dirkinity wrote: So whats the easiest method to level? Play vs CPU on easy and build 500ccs? :D Any working tips&trick would be welcomed!
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On January 27 2013 07:15 Ch3rry wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 07:11 Dirkinity wrote: So whats the easiest method to level? Play vs CPU on easy and build 500ccs? :D Any working tips&trick would be welcomed!
Find a friend. Find the biggest map. Repeatedly slam armies into each other till the map is mined out. There is a play with a friend bonus of like 25% points i think. Repeat until you reach goal.
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Well, I know what I'm doing this weekend now.
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On January 27 2013 01:22 paralleluniverse wrote:As I've said on the B.net forums, this is completely outrageous and unfair.
I sort of agree somewhat but unlike with D3, you can at least get into the beta by prepurchasing (so anyone can do it).
Fortunately though (or unfortunately), the portraits unlocked don't look all that great IMO.
In fact all the leveling up portraits are kind of not so great (the reason is because they look nothing like normal portraits).
On January 27 2013 05:12 FeyFey wrote: I miss the Mustache Guy, well time for some Terran !
We also should never tell the posters who find it outrageous, that they sometimes give out stuff if you attend Blizzcon. Their heads might explode, because only such a small percentage could get it.
Actually you can (anyone can) purchase a Blizzcon virtual ticket to get all the stuff. They have unlimited supply of virtual tickets (since it's just a pass to watch the VODs and stuff for a few days).
The D3 thing was unfair simply because you couldn't do anything to get into it and it was random. The SC2 HotS thing isn't unfair since anyone can get beta access. Anyway, I'm not really an achievement collector myself but I know plenty of people who really like to collect that type of stuff.
On January 27 2013 07:15 Ch3rry wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 07:11 Dirkinity wrote: So whats the easiest method to level? Play vs CPU on easy and build 500ccs? :D Any working tips&trick would be welcomed!
Play an 8 player map. Set 4 v 4 (3 computers on your side, 4 on the opponent).
Play the game on a big map like Vigilance or something like Megaton (though it depends on which difficulty you pick, I recommend at least Hard because below hard, the computer builds really slowly).
(On the higher difficulties, computers build really fast.)
Anyway, build stuff. At 5 minute mark, request resources from computers (they'll give it to you once they receive it). (Don't overdo this though, because if you do it too much, the computer won't have anything to build for themselves.)
With extra resources, you can mass units at 5 minute mark.
Also since it's a 4v4, more units on the field = more exp you gain by destroying units.
Finally, take note that after a certain point (I'm not sure if it's based on time or based on exp gain), all exp gain will be reduced by 77%.
(Exp gain is based on total resources the unit cost. A Thor is 300/200, which grants 500 exp. Supply depot is 100, which grants 100 exp. The same case for destroying units.)
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On January 27 2013 01:48 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 01:39 -Kyo- wrote:On January 27 2013 01:22 paralleluniverse wrote:As I've said on the B.net forums, this is completely outrageous and unfair. Rofl what? If you pre order the game, which I mean you'll have to pay the same price for anyway.. just put $5 down?, you can get into beta. Moreover, getting level 30 takes no time at all... Your complaint is honestly just sad. 'outrageous and unfair' they'd give us something free if you're helping them test the game!!! What do you want ... Not everyone who has preordered gets in. For example see this comment by NoahSon. Even if anyone can get into the beta, it still doesn't excuse it. Because it doesn't explain why Blizzard should now be giving in game rewards through a beta, when they haven't done so in all their betas from 1955-2011, they haven't done so in the latest MoP beta since it's not fair to those who aren't in the beta for whatever reason. What about future players? Diablo 3 did it. And the world is still standing. If you wanted to prevent beta->game crossover you needed to do it when it first happened. HoTS is just continuing this new trend. If anything this new system is more than fair. Everyone who preorders with us.battle.net has a chance to complete this reward. Ordering directly thru us.battle.net costs blizzard less money because they don't have to involve distributors etc. It is also the only form of preordering where the funds used for the pre-order actually reach blizzard before the game is released. So essentially any preorders made on the us.battle.net website provide funding to help get the game shipped. By offering a reward for this they are encouraging you to help them release the game. And EVERYONE who preorders with us.battle.net gets one. Look more closely at that post. He literally JUST preordered. ofc there will be a delay. Edit: Double post
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Who doesn't have the beta?
I have 1 spare key. First person to message me gets it.
At least 1 person who doesn't have the beta will get a chance at these portraits ^^
Not available anymore
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On January 27 2013 08:39 Goldfish wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 07:15 Ch3rry wrote:On January 27 2013 07:11 Dirkinity wrote: So whats the easiest method to level? Play vs CPU on easy and build 500ccs? :D Any working tips&trick would be welcomed! Play an 8 player map. Set 4 v 4 (3 computers on your side, 4 on the opponent). Play the game on a big map like Vigilance or something like Megaton (though it depends on which difficulty you pick, I recommend at least Hard because below hard, the computer builds really slowly). (On the higher difficulties, computers build really fast.) Anyway, build stuff. At 5 minute mark, request resources from computers (they'll give it to you once they receive it). (Don't overdo this though, because if you do it too much, the computer won't have anything to build for themselves.)With extra resources, you can mass units at 5 minute mark.Also since it's a 4v4, more units on the field = more exp you gain by destroying units. Finally, take note that after a certain point (I'm not sure if it's based on time or based on exp gain), all exp gain will be reduced by 77%.(Exp gain is based on total resources the unit cost. A Thor is 300/200, which grants 500 exp. Supply depot is 100, which grants 100 exp. The same case for destroying units.)
Really good tips. I was getting 233 xp per battlecruiser, is that the 77% thing?
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On January 27 2013 09:18 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 08:39 Goldfish wrote:On January 27 2013 07:15 Ch3rry wrote:On January 27 2013 07:11 Dirkinity wrote: So whats the easiest method to level? Play vs CPU on easy and build 500ccs? :D Any working tips&trick would be welcomed! Play an 8 player map. Set 4 v 4 (3 computers on your side, 4 on the opponent). Play the game on a big map like Vigilance or something like Megaton (though it depends on which difficulty you pick, I recommend at least Hard because below hard, the computer builds really slowly). (On the higher difficulties, computers build really fast.) Anyway, build stuff. At 5 minute mark, request resources from computers (they'll give it to you once they receive it). (Don't overdo this though, because if you do it too much, the computer won't have anything to build for themselves.)With extra resources, you can mass units at 5 minute mark.Also since it's a 4v4, more units on the field = more exp you gain by destroying units. Finally, take note that after a certain point (I'm not sure if it's based on time or based on exp gain), all exp gain will be reduced by 77%.(Exp gain is based on total resources the unit cost. A Thor is 300/200, which grants 500 exp. Supply depot is 100, which grants 100 exp. The same case for destroying units.) Really good tips. I was getting 233 xp per battlecruiser, is that the 77% thing? It's more like you get 1/3 after some time.
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
First, you can get exp from building and killing even against your friend in 1v1 game on 4v4 map. Both will have ~+100k exp at the end of game.
Second, here is a demotivator, how it can end if Blizzard will not limit level progression to ladder games
P.S. Who don't understand, I'll explain. You're gaining exp for everything. Make nexus - you got 400 exp, farm stupid AI sending units to you - get exp, kill fatty units like archons/ultras/thors/etc - get more exp!
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What is strange is it seems they made leveling harder, it takes waaay longer now to level up than last patch, but they didnt reset the levels, so if I was lvl 30 before I am lucky because now it is much harder...
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
On January 27 2013 09:42 Aquila- wrote: What is strange is it seems they made leveling harder, it takes waaay longer now to level up than last patch, but they didnt reset the levels, so if I was lvl 30 before I am lucky because now it is much harder... It's not harder. Create 200 supply army as zerg, send it to Nydus, kill Nydus, remax. You got tons of exp in seconds just for making units
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On January 27 2013 09:47 Existor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 09:42 Aquila- wrote: What is strange is it seems they made leveling harder, it takes waaay longer now to level up than last patch, but they didnt reset the levels, so if I was lvl 30 before I am lucky because now it is much harder... It's not harder. Create 200 supply army as zerg, send it to Nydus, kill Nydus, remax. You got tons of exp in seconds just for making units
nukes ftw...
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
On January 27 2013 09:58 Dirkinity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 09:47 Existor wrote:On January 27 2013 09:42 Aquila- wrote: What is strange is it seems they made leveling harder, it takes waaay longer now to level up than last patch, but they didnt reset the levels, so if I was lvl 30 before I am lucky because now it is much harder... It's not harder. Create 200 supply army as zerg, send it to Nydus, kill Nydus, remax. You got tons of exp in seconds just for making units nukes ftw... Nuke can't insta kill 200 supply like Nydus :D
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
Also, you need an enemy, so it can be Easy AI or cheater
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On January 27 2013 02:26 -Kyo- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 01:48 paralleluniverse wrote:On January 27 2013 01:39 -Kyo- wrote:On January 27 2013 01:22 paralleluniverse wrote:As I've said on the B.net forums, this is completely outrageous and unfair. Rofl what? If you pre order the game, which I mean you'll have to pay the same price for anyway.. just put $5 down?, you can get into beta. Moreover, getting level 30 takes no time at all... Your complaint is honestly just sad. 'outrageous and unfair' they'd give us something free if you're helping them test the game!!! What do you want ... Not everyone who has preordered gets in. For example see this comment by NoahSon. Even if anyone can get into the beta, it still doesn't excuse it. Because it doesn't explain why Blizzard should now be giving in game rewards through a beta, when they haven't done so in all their betas from 1955-2011, they haven't done so in the latest MoP beta since it's not fair to those who aren't in the beta for whatever reason. What about future players? Yes, outrageous and unfair that they'll give players something, not really free, exclusively to beta players while excluding players not in the beta, and breaking the usual precedence that beta and live are completely separate. What do I want? For Blizzard to not give out these portraits on live account. Blizzard should try $10 Amazon vouchers for the first 100 players to reach level 90. I think you're confused. First off, 1955? What world are you living in? haha Second off, your whole argument is based on what people are or are not entitled to whether it be free or not. I'll let you in on a secret, whether it is or is not unfair doesn't matter. Why? Because you are not the developer and thus have no final impact on their bottom line. If they decide that to increase profits/beta participation they will offer a digital item at no cost to themselves, other than the one time coding, then they can do so. If you don't get the item: Tough luck, go complain somewhere else than a public forum. If you want beta and you preordered just order from somewhere else, get a code, and cancel - these are digital items they have an unlimited number of. You've already paid so you should have a code after the announcement on the 22nd or whatever. You can also contact Gamestop - they sent me FOUR for FREE on request. Moreover, if you've ever looked at console games almost all have started to rely on DLC content, or preorder content. The console market place made a drastic shift towards this around the time of Xbox 360 PS3 etc. It wasn't always like that, but that's what the game developers have decided and that's how it is. Just because they didn't do it before does not mean they have to oblige by your "fair" means of marketing. Really, you're just taking your subjective matter as "objective" unfairness. Is it fair for you to limit their profits? To limit their marketing team? To limit the growth of e-sports by getting more "stuff" out to people at no charge if it means they'll be more inclined to play? Your one dimensional complaining is sad. Bottom line, either take what they give you or contact their support with an issue - However, don't expect it to be changed. If that's not satisfactory don't buy their product. No one is going to give you money for leveling up, don't be a petty person. Sorry. You're highly confused. This is not DLC. So when you talk about limiting profits, you're going off on an unrelated tangent. Also, 1995. But it might as well be 1955, because all Blizzard beta from the very start to 2011, including the latest MoP beta has kept the beta separate from the live game. People have been asking Blizzard reward their beta participation in the past. They were rejected, because it's unfair. And it is. So Blizzard was doing it wrong all that time from 1995-2011 where they agreed on separating beta from the live game and maintaining fairness?
On January 27 2013 02:37 TheFrankOne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 01:48 paralleluniverse wrote:On January 27 2013 01:39 -Kyo- wrote:On January 27 2013 01:22 paralleluniverse wrote:As I've said on the B.net forums, this is completely outrageous and unfair. Rofl what? If you pre order the game, which I mean you'll have to pay the same price for anyway.. just put $5 down?, you can get into beta. Moreover, getting level 30 takes no time at all... Your complaint is honestly just sad. 'outrageous and unfair' they'd give us something free if you're helping them test the game!!! What do you want ... Not everyone who has preordered gets in. For example see this comment by NoahSon. Even if anyone can get into the beta, it still doesn't excuse it. Because it doesn't explain why Blizzard should now be giving in game rewards through a beta, when they haven't done so in all their betas from 1955-2011, they haven't done so in the latest MoP beta since it's not fair to those who aren't in the beta for whatever reason. What about future players? Yes, outrageous and unfair that they'll give players something, not really free, exclusively to beta players while excluding players not in the beta, and breaking the usual precedence that beta and live are completely separate. What do I want? For Blizzard to not give out these portraits on live account. Blizzard should try $10 Amazon vouchers for the first 100 players to reach level 90. They give portraits to people who purchased their blizzcon premium ticket shit too. It's not really unprecedented. You are overstating the implications of this a bit. You don't get the warhound or caduceus reactor healing upgrade. Just a few achievement points and a couple portraits. Yes, they do give out portraits for Blizzcon. And two wrongs don't make a right. Yes, apart from Diablo 3, it is unprecedented, it hasn't been done before. In all the other betas, the live and beta were separate for fairness. Diablo 3 gave a banner as well, and that was rightly met with 170 pages of justifiable outrage.
On January 27 2013 02:46 wongfeihung wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 01:48 paralleluniverse wrote:On January 27 2013 01:39 -Kyo- wrote:On January 27 2013 01:22 paralleluniverse wrote:As I've said on the B.net forums, this is completely outrageous and unfair. Rofl what? If you pre order the game, which I mean you'll have to pay the same price for anyway.. just put $5 down?, you can get into beta. Moreover, getting level 30 takes no time at all... Your complaint is honestly just sad. 'outrageous and unfair' they'd give us something free if you're helping them test the game!!! What do you want ... Not everyone who has preordered gets in. For example see this comment by NoahSon. Even if anyone can get into the beta, it still doesn't excuse it. Because it doesn't explain why Blizzard should now be giving in game rewards through a beta, when they haven't done so in all their betas from 1955-2011, they haven't done so in the latest MoP beta since it's not fair to those who aren't in the beta for whatever reason. What about future players? Yes, outrageous and unfair that they'll give players something, not really free, exclusively to beta players while excluding players not in the beta, and breaking the usual precedence that beta and live are completely separate. What do I want? For Blizzard to not give out these portraits on live account. Blizzard should try $10 Amazon vouchers for the first 100 players to reach level 90. A fringe benefit of the leveling system, in addition to attracting casual players, is measuring activity of beta testers. If you reach level 30 during the beta, then you're probably actively engaging in beta testing (i.e. playing ladder). Blizzard rewards those who actively engage in beta testing. Why? Because beta testers help give feedback to Blizzard on how well-polished the game is so far (duh). Did you fully read and understand what Blizzard said in their announcement? Show nested quote +Though some of these units are no longer with us, we felt each was representative of the beta experience in its own right, and that these portraits could be a fun way would be a fun way to show off your dedication as a Heart of the Swarm Beta tester. Plenty of new games nowadays are rewarding alpha/beta testers and really early pre-purchases with "Founders" titles. This is potentially Blizzard's answer to the Founders titles of other games. Also, right before WoL was released, there were complaints that they players should be rewarded for being beta testers (as if playing a game 6 months before its release wasn't good enough); These portraits also cater to those people. Take a second and think about it before whining about "outrageous and unfair" treatment. Except Blizzard is NOT rewarding people for giving feedback. They're rewarding people who collude with friends to make millions of buildings and units and then nuking them. And people are already given a reward for providing feedback and actually testing the game. By being able to influence design, by being able to see the game before the general public, i.e. being in the beta. Nor should they reward people for giving feedback by dishing out exclusive content that is unavailable to those who are not lucky enough to get into beta. What about future players who haven't heard of the game yet? And even if they have access to the beta, why should they have to play on the beta to get this reward on their live account? This hasn't happened in any past beta. Yes, in the past, people have asked to be rewarded for being in the beta. They were rejected, then. And rightly so. What happened to equality of opportunity for all?
If Blizzard wants to reward people for giving good feedback during the beta, then they can put them on an invite list for future betas, or give out gift cards. These are far better rewards that don't make the game unfair.
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Any tips for Protoss to quickly kill an army? Terran can nuke, Zerg can nydus kill etc...
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On January 27 2013 12:08 HoriZoNXI wrote: Any tips for Protoss to quickly kill an army? Terran can nuke, Zerg can nydus kill etc... Play 1v1 against terran and ask him to nuke your army or use storms.
Other idea is to 1v1 against Terran/Zerg with mass swarm hosts/siege tanks in the middle, and send all created units to siege/host line. He will have more exp, you will rebuild units endessly and gain exp too.
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Uhh instead of exploiting your way to max level, why don't you just play the game until you reach max level? It doesn't take all that long and its also how one learns how to play the game.... A portrait or max level is irrelevant if you suck at the game.
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On January 27 2013 12:45 gDubS91 wrote: Uhh instead of exploiting your way to max level, why don't you just play the game until you reach max level? It doesn't take all that long and its also how one learns how to play the game.... A portrait or max level is irrelevant if you suck at the game. It's better to exploit your way to max level, because it allows Blizzard to see this abuse as a major problem that needs to be fixed.
The more exploiters the greater the urgency in fixing it.
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On January 27 2013 12:45 gDubS91 wrote: Uhh instead of exploiting your way to max level, why don't you just play the game until you reach max level? It doesn't take all that long and its also how one learns how to play the game.... A portrait or max level is irrelevant if you suck at the game.
People always want to be special. And even if its a dumb portrait, If I got it and most others not - I want it!
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There is a feat of strength for doing the D3 beta. /shrug
Not the end of the world.
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On January 27 2013 12:21 Existor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 12:08 HoriZoNXI wrote: Any tips for Protoss to quickly kill an army? Terran can nuke, Zerg can nydus kill etc... Play 1v1 against terran and ask him to nuke your army or use storms. Other idea is to 1v1 against Terran/Zerg with mass swarm hosts/siege tanks in the middle, and send all created units to siege/host line. He will have more exp, you will rebuild units endessly and gain exp too. Do you gain XP from temporary units?
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On January 27 2013 12:45 gDubS91 wrote: Uhh instead of exploiting your way to max level, why don't you just play the game until you reach max level? It doesn't take all that long and its also how one learns how to play the game.... A portrait or max level is irrelevant if you suck at the game.
1. Some people can only play for a bit until HotS is released. While it may seem like there is plenty of time, 1 month to get the FoS achievement is a bit short.
2. I want to go back and play some WoL (especially after global play just came out). Also it doesn't help that HotS for me has been lagging badly (anyone else getting huge lag spikes while playing HotS? I can play WoL fine.
Anyway, that's why there's a good reason to find a good way to exp.
On January 27 2013 13:27 Tuczniak wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 12:21 Existor wrote:On January 27 2013 12:08 HoriZoNXI wrote: Any tips for Protoss to quickly kill an army? Terran can nuke, Zerg can nydus kill etc... Play 1v1 against terran and ask him to nuke your army or use storms. Other idea is to 1v1 against Terran/Zerg with mass swarm hosts/siege tanks in the middle, and send all created units to siege/host line. He will have more exp, you will rebuild units endessly and gain exp too. Do you gain XP from temporary units?
Nope.
You can gain exp from only things that have resources.
Anyone know if 77% exp reduction comes at a certain point in time or after you gain a certain amount of exp?
I'll try to keep note of the time (usually when the 77% exp reduction kicks in, I'm at least 20 mins into the game).
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 27 2013 14:05 Goldfish wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 12:45 gDubS91 wrote: Uhh instead of exploiting yourjavascript:addUBB_selected('reply_area', 'quote') way to max level, why don't you just play the game until you reach max level? It doesn't take all that long and its also how one learns how to play the game.... A portrait or max level is irrelevant if you suck at the game. 1. Some people can only play for a bit until HotS is released. While it may seem like there is plenty of time, 1 month to get the FoS achievement is a bit short. 2. I want to go back and play some WoL (especially after global play just came out). Also it doesn't help that HotS for me has been lagging badly (anyone else getting huge lag spikes while playing HotS? I can play WoL fine.Anyway, that's why there's a good reason to find a good way to exp. Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 13:27 Tuczniak wrote:On January 27 2013 12:21 Existor wrote:On January 27 2013 12:08 HoriZoNXI wrote: Any tips for Protoss to quickly kill an army? Terran can nuke, Zerg can nydus kill etc... Play 1v1 against terran and ask him to nuke your army or use storms. Other idea is to 1v1 against Terran/Zerg with mass swarm hosts/siege tanks in the middle, and send all created units to siege/host line. He will have more exp, you will rebuild units endessly and gain exp too. Do you gain XP from temporary units? Nope. You can gain exp from only things that have resources. Anyone know if 77% exp reduction comes at a certain point in time or after you gain a certain amount of exp? I'll try to keep note of the time (usually when the 77% exp reduction kicks in, I'm at least 20 mins into the game).
It might kick in at about 22 minutes? Anyways anyone know an optimized way for leveling yet?
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On January 27 2013 14:20 phodacbiet wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 27 2013 14:05 Goldfish wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 12:45 gDubS91 wrote: Uhh instead of exploiting yourjavascript:addUBB_selected('reply_area', 'quote') way to max level, why don't you just play the game until you reach max level? It doesn't take all that long and its also how one learns how to play the game.... A portrait or max level is irrelevant if you suck at the game. 1. Some people can only play for a bit until HotS is released. While it may seem like there is plenty of time, 1 month to get the FoS achievement is a bit short. 2. I want to go back and play some WoL (especially after global play just came out). Also it doesn't help that HotS for me has been lagging badly (anyone else getting huge lag spikes while playing HotS? I can play WoL fine.Anyway, that's why there's a good reason to find a good way to exp. Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 13:27 Tuczniak wrote:On January 27 2013 12:21 Existor wrote:On January 27 2013 12:08 HoriZoNXI wrote: Any tips for Protoss to quickly kill an army? Terran can nuke, Zerg can nydus kill etc... Play 1v1 against terran and ask him to nuke your army or use storms. Other idea is to 1v1 against Terran/Zerg with mass swarm hosts/siege tanks in the middle, and send all created units to siege/host line. He will have more exp, you will rebuild units endessly and gain exp too. Do you gain XP from temporary units? Nope. You can gain exp from only things that have resources. Anyone know if 77% exp reduction comes at a certain point in time or after you gain a certain amount of exp? I'll try to keep note of the time (usually when the 77% exp reduction kicks in, I'm at least 20 mins into the game). It might kick in at about 22 minutes? Anyways anyone know an optimized way for leveling yet?
I did a custom game were i just massed banes and mined out the entire map. Gained about 150k exp.
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I like the zerg portrait. I wish they would remove the star and crescent though.
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Scratch that, the exp diminishing return is for exp amount only, not a timer.
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On January 27 2013 15:55 phodacbiet wrote: Scratch that, the exp diminishing return is for exp amount only, not a timer. At what limit?
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Maybe it's 50k? I'll try experimenting and instantly leaving when the exp reduction comes in
Edit: If it's experience based (which it most likely is) then it's definitely 50k exp. I can get 50k per 20 minutes on average with Protoss
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I'm getting roughly 50k/25 minute (as Protoss) games vs AI Ladder. Anyone getting better exp gain rates by themselves (no buddies)? I might try the 4v4 thing. I like playing vs the AI because it semi-forces me to play as if they were a ladder opponent, so I keep my skill/APM in check and I don't get bored as quickly.
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On January 27 2013 16:32 RiceAgainst wrote: I'm getting roughly 50k/25 minute (as Protoss) games vs AI Ladder. Anyone getting better exp gain rates by themselves (no buddies)? I might try the 4v4 thing. I like playing vs the AI because it semi-forces me to play as if they were a ladder opponent, so I keep my skill/APM in check and I don't get bored as quickly.
I'm getting 50k+ exp (at least) / 22 mins as Terran (this was last game though, I never counted the average). So on Protoss and Zerg, it may be a bit faster than what I can gain as Terran (assuming you're spamming as much structures, units as possible).
Again in 4v4s (with comp allies), you basically have unlimited money (just keep requesting money from the AI, it's the button on the top right screen). Remember set it to hard, or harder (at very hard and above, it's likely that your computer AIs will go down if you take their minerals/gas because Very Hard computers like to just mass a few units and attack within 5-6 minutes of the game).
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On January 27 2013 16:40 Goldfish wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 16:32 RiceAgainst wrote: I'm getting roughly 50k/25 minute (as Protoss) games vs AI Ladder. Anyone getting better exp gain rates by themselves (no buddies)? I might try the 4v4 thing. I like playing vs the AI because it semi-forces me to play as if they were a ladder opponent, so I keep my skill/APM in check and I don't get bored as quickly. I'm getting 50k+ exp (at least) / 22 mins as Terran (this was last game though, I never counted the average). So on Protoss and Zerg, it may be a bit faster than what I can gain as Terran (assuming you're spamming as much structures, units as possible). Again in 4v4s (with comp allies), you basically have unlimited money (just keep requesting money from the AI, it's the button on the top right screen). Remember set it to hard, or harder (at very hard and above, it's likely that your computer AIs will go down if you take their minerals/gas because Very Hard computers like to just mass a few units and attack within 5-6 minutes of the game).
Ah okay, so it's not too significant of a gain (though it does add up). I might just stick to my way then. I'll try the 4v4 a couple times and see if I can gain a lot more using Protoss. Thanks though.
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For zerg, what i do is make on a big map and have 3 hard ai on my side and 2 medium ai on their side. Strat set to econ focus and just send them to mass expand. I rush 2 base hive (using their resources ofc) while slowly expanding as well. By 9 minutes, i have enough to make ultras and i build a nydus + 5-6 spines around that nydus. At around 10 minutes (should have about 80~ workers), i can constantly spam about 14 ultras and send them to the nydus, kill nydus rinse repeat!
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On January 27 2013 16:55 phodacbiet wrote: For zerg, what i do is make on a big map and have 3 hard ai on my side and 2 medium ai on their side. Strat set to econ focus and just send them to mass expand. I rush 2 base hive (using their resources ofc) while slowly expanding as well. By 9 minutes, i have enough to make ultras and i build a nydus + 5-6 spines around that nydus. At around 10 minutes (should have about 80~ workers), i can constantly spam about 14 ultras and send them to the nydus, kill nydus rinse repeat!
Nice idea. I forgot you can set the builds of AI. In that case, I could see the 4v4 strategy being more efficient this way.
Set your computers hard, econ focus against medium computers (who basically don't attack), then just mass produce units or structures.
How much exp per game do you get from this, and how long does the game take?
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Wow, the 4v4 strat actually works. I can hit the 50k before the reduction, before the 20 minute mark. Only problem is lag, since my PC is terrible. So yeah, set them to eco builds then just request minerals like crazy. Build a death ball, and a-move. ~60k at 22 minutes, with terrible terrible lag and macro.
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On January 27 2013 17:07 RiceAgainst wrote: Wow, the 4v4 strat actually works. I can hit the 50k before the reduction, before the 20 minute mark. Only problem is lag, since my PC is terrible. So yeah, set them to eco builds then just request minerals like crazy. Build a death ball, and a-move. ~60k at 22 minutes, with terrible terrible lag and macro.
Oh! i dont attack them though haha. I just rally all my ultras to nydus, kill nydus, rinse repeat while keep requesting. Once the cap comes, i just kill the AI. I am gonna test this with 1 ai instead (just make sure ur ai dont go kill them).
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On January 27 2013 17:14 phodacbiet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 17:07 RiceAgainst wrote: Wow, the 4v4 strat actually works. I can hit the 50k before the reduction, before the 20 minute mark. Only problem is lag, since my PC is terrible. So yeah, set them to eco builds then just request minerals like crazy. Build a death ball, and a-move. ~60k at 22 minutes, with terrible terrible lag and macro. Oh! i dont attack them though haha. I just rally all my ultras to nydus, kill nydus, rinse repeat while keep requesting. Once the cap comes, i just kill the AI. I am gonna test this with 1 ai instead (just make sure ur ai dont go kill them).
Protoss doesn't have a super quick way to kill their own units. =( Unless I go mass psi storm on mass high templar. The zerg one seems really good though. You still get the exp even if you don't kill the ai right? So you could save time by hitting the cap then F10+N -ing out.
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Idk i havent tried it yet, but as soon as i hit the cap (around 15~ minutes) i just a move and get my 55k. I feel like with terran maybe u can mass thors/ nuke? But then again i think mass orbitals might be faster since those things are 400 per
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Hey... i just thought of something. Since blizzard implemented a replay resume feature right.. why dont we just fast forward to the part where we can spam units and just do it over and over? This would save about 5-10 minutes since it skips the early game O_O. I wonder if that would work, but i dont have any friends on right now =*(
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On January 27 2013 17:45 phodacbiet wrote: Hey... i just thought of something. Since blizzard implemented a replay resume feature right.. why dont we just fast forward to the part where we can spam units and just do it over and over? This would save about 5-10 minutes since it skips the early game O_O. I wonder if that would work, but i dont have any friends on right now =*(
I just tested this, playing a game from a replay doesn't give you any XP at all.
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On January 27 2013 18:55 Stingart wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 17:45 phodacbiet wrote: Hey... i just thought of something. Since blizzard implemented a replay resume feature right.. why dont we just fast forward to the part where we can spam units and just do it over and over? This would save about 5-10 minutes since it skips the early game O_O. I wonder if that would work, but i dont have any friends on right now =*( I just tested this, playing a game from a replay doesn't give you any XP at all.
thats unfortunate =( Oh well, 55k per 17 ingame minutes isnt that bad.
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So sad if you actually care about this
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On January 27 2013 01:22 paralleluniverse wrote:As I've said on the B.net forums, this is completely outrageous and unfair. It's hard to believe how people can react to these things... If anyone wants the portrait, they can preorder and get into the beta It's a portrait, calling it an outrageous act is just complete overacting.
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do you get more xp doing unranked or ranked games?
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On January 27 2013 19:04 MateShade wrote: So sad if you actually care about this
Of course! When the game comes out these portraits will be like.. awesome looking! And fun is all objective, just because you do/dont find something fun doesnt mean other people will feel the same way. Look at blizzard's explanation of fun for d3 and look how that turned out.
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Oh nice to see everyone trying to find ways to farm it. Maybe thats why they implemented it to remove abuses haha.
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On January 27 2013 19:33 FeyFey wrote: Oh nice to see everyone trying to find ways to farm it. Maybe thats why they implemented it to remove abuses haha.
still found a way though! Just not as fast =(
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Here is my idea for farming:
Find a friend (for bonus exp) and play on some map where u can get 4 bases both. Spam workers at the begining, then make mass AA defence (spores, cannons, turrets) in two different spots (one for each player). Next set rally point for air units that do not attack ground to enemy's AA spot (corruptors, vipers, overlords, vikings, medivacs, ravens, phoenix, warp prism, oracles).
This way both of you will get exp for building army and also for killing enemy units. Give up after 25-30 mins for max eficiency.
EDIT: I created group "Call to Action", so everyone who wants to try get some fast exp points, please join!
EDIT2: Looks like there is no friend bonus or its not always working when playing with a friend in a team.
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On January 27 2013 19:04 MateShade wrote: So sad if you actually care about this Even sadder that you found the time to say that it's sad some guys care about this.
I do care, let's the farming begin! Time is short. These things will not be able to get after beta closes, gogo!!
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Finally done with zerg! I got it down to around 16 30 average for 53k exp =D. Time to exploit protoss/terran tmr and give blizzard feedback on their beta! Btw, the view profile thing is broken at like level 22+ cause it says you need like -800,000 exp to get to next level. See... we are helping blizzard test!
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Exp reduce comes after a certaing amount of experience gained. Something like 50k.
Good news for p race. You can earn 50-60k for 15mins playing. Create 8 player map and add 7 AI's. All the AI's should be elite. Set all the opp's races to zerg with Roach Attack (Aggressive) build and a handicap set to 50%. Your opponets should be set to ecnomic build with 50% handicap. Macro for 5 minutes, start air weapon upgrade as soon as core is done. When it's 5 minute mark, request for gas and minerals. Build 5 stargates and star pumping voidrays. Keep requesting minerals. At around 10mins zergs will attack you or your allies. Kill all the roaches, split voidrays to 2 groups and start destroying your opp's bases. Keep requesting recources and build mass fleet beacons and nexi. You don't need much of vr's. 20 will be enough. As soon as you notice exp reduce, leave and create another game. My last record is 15 mins with 2 tries. So I guess it can be done even faster.
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On January 27 2013 16:08 HoriZoNXI wrote: Maybe it's 50k? I'll try experimenting and instantly leaving when the exp reduction comes in
Edit: If it's experience based (which it most likely is) then it's definitely 50k exp. I can get 50k per 20 minutes on average with Protoss
Thanks for your work on this.
Ill put together a short guide from all this soon but just want to point out some things I have noticed Building Nukes dont award xp (only works for units, buildings and upgrades). If you and another unit are attacking I believe it follows last hit mechanics (correct me if this is wrong someone)
Also is anyone here still getting the negative experience or the upgrade/starter edition bug? If so please post in this thread and I will see if I can help you.
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So how much exp is needed to get to 30? Wondering how long this will take.
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On January 27 2013 23:10 Gourmand wrote: So how much exp is needed to get to 30? Wondering how long this will take.
I am 10 from 2 days of playing. Right now its roughly 50k xp per 20min so about and hour a level. We have 45 days left. Its daunting but doable. In other words there is time if the heart is there
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Add this banner to OP
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My record is 75k for 19 mins game, but that included first win of the day.
So 65k from 19 min long game without bonus.
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i can only get to lvl 25 and then i need to upgrade??
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Easy way as zerg to free up supply: Build banes and explode them manually.
To quickly get rid of terran supply, I stim rines until they have only 5 HP and send them to the enemy.
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On January 28 2013 00:31 Killmouse wrote: i can only get to lvl 25 and then i need to upgrade?? Can u make a thread in the bnet bug forums amd link it here?
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Here is another (even better) option for protoss. Set all the AI's to recource cheaters. Set economic builds for allies and 50% handicap for enemies. This way you have to do less clicks (setting parameters may be a bit annoying coz it lags a bit). You just add 7 AI's and set 7 parameters. Do a standard opening. Build twilight council right after cyber core and research warpgate. Research blink asap. Request for recources at 5min and build gates up to 20. You can also get your dark shrine for recource spending after 2-3 cycles of stalker warp ins. Control your stalkers and destroy/kill everything you see in the fastest way possible. It requires 12-13 minutes to gain 50k exp.
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On January 27 2013 23:10 Gourmand wrote: So how much exp is needed to get to 30? Wondering how long this will take. Based on the information in the OP, I think it's about 4.8 to 5.0 million XP required to get a single level to 30. So that's 15 million XP for all three levels. 50k XP per 20 minutes, so 150k per hour. 15M / 150k = 100. 100 hours of playing. So about two weeks of playing 8 hours every day. The beta is probably going to close in ~30 days, so 3,33 hours of playing every day until the beta closes.
I may try getting one portrait but getting all three is way too time consuming.
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Another tip.
Mouseover the tiker. Scrol wheel up while holding Ctrl.
Resource tiker will increase by 100.
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On January 28 2013 01:31 Elp wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 23:10 Gourmand wrote: So how much exp is needed to get to 30? Wondering how long this will take. Based on the information in the OP, I think it's about 4.8 to 5.0 million XP required to get a single level to 30. So that's 15 million XP for all three levels. 50k XP per 20 minutes, so 150k per hour. 15M / 150k = 100. 100 hours of playing. So about two weeks of playing 8 hours every day. The beta is probably going to close in ~30 days, so 3,33 hours of playing every day until the beta closes. I may try getting one portrait but getting all three is way too time consuming.
Who needs all 3? :S If there was a 4th portarit for lvl 90 it'd be ok, but getting 2 portraits (that are not so cool compared to wol portraits or to portraits that might be in hots) for races you don't play doesn't worth it.
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Too bad there isnt a map with unlimited resources.
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I'm getting 50K xp per 15 minutes as Protoss, i'm doing a very AFK build, i alt tab 4 times to macro.
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On January 28 2013 02:41 Tuczniak wrote: Too bad there isnt a map with unlimited resources. There is, but you will not get exp from those maps
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Ok I got another build that is 1 min faster than previous one Instead of blink you get charge and build templar archives instead of dark shrine. Spam zealots from 20 warpgates till you get 3000 gas. Spend the whole cycle warping high templars then keep spending recources warping whatever you want. You need just 11-12 minutes to earn 50k exp.
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Another build: You need two players on enemy teams. Each with 3x Cheater AI as ally, Set handicap to 50%. 15-20 Warp Gates, spam only Zealots against each other or into cannons. AI are giving away resources faster if you request only minerals.
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We require more level and portraits!
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Blizzard needs to make an Xp boost item. I would buy that.
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25% Xp boost is only when playing with Real ID friend. Also XP reduction cames exactly after 50k earned, so leave the game as soon as u dont receive full xp. When u play with a friend u get 62 500 exp in 17 minutes (could be faster with perfect strat).
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to Lvl. 12: 160,000 to Lvl. 13: 165,000
Level 12 right now, doing the 4v4 strat. Ends the game around 12-13 minutes for me, with about 50-60k exp. Ugh, I don't know if I can make it...I thought I'd never grind/farm ever again until this challenge came along.
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This is how blizzard plans to keep people playing hots. By farming like WoW LOL. I can see it now *Need 3 more for heroic 4v4 for epic skins* or a 25 man raid on char for tier skins
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Is anyone doing this with Zerg and getting 12-13 minute games? The fastest I've gotten is Hydra spam and that still takes me to like 18-19 minutes due to the stubborn AI or is everyone just quitting at the xp reduction? Those last few minutes of a huge army busting everything down just seems too easy to pass up.
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Wait so the ONLY portrait that I will keep for release is if i hit lvl 90?
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You keep any level 30 one you unlock.
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On January 28 2013 08:47 DrSeRRoD wrote: Is anyone doing this with Zerg and getting 12-13 minute games? The fastest I've gotten is Hydra spam and that still takes me to like 18-19 minutes due to the stubborn AI or is everyone just quitting at the xp reduction? Those last few minutes of a huge army busting everything down just seems too easy to pass up.
Yeah not worth it since it's 77% reduction which is a very very tiny amount. I'm getting 14 minutes as Protoss btw, Zerg you should be getting 10-12 minutes.
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On January 28 2013 08:47 DrSeRRoD wrote: Is anyone doing this with Zerg and getting 12-13 minute games? The fastest I've gotten is Hydra spam and that still takes me to like 18-19 minutes due to the stubborn AI or is everyone just quitting at the xp reduction? Those last few minutes of a huge army busting everything down just seems too easy to pass up.
The fastest i got was 55 at like 16 30. I usually push out at 14 to kill them at 16 30 because after the 50k its 77% reduction and that is a bit too much =(
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i would love to do that, but with -3,157,229 xp for my zerg... I don't think i'll be able to do it before the end of the beta T__T
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Doing it as Zerg, 50k+ exp games in 13 minutes. Playing on megaton, 7 resource AIs, put opponent ones on eco build, 50% hp.
BO: 10gas 9pool Extractor trick to get 11 drones Research Lair Ovie + 3 drones Infestor pit + Queen Drones Research Hive Constantly ask res from AI (2k each and don't wait for AI to fully provide them, just cancel and request regularly) Ultralisk cavern Put down 4 more hatches - one in expand/get 4 queens/research ling speed/adrenal glands (you can start this before hive is finished depending on resources available) Use most larva for overlords When ultralisk cavern done - should be around 7:30 - train 6 ultras and start chitinous plating Drone a bit/make more overlords/ultras/lings Attack when chitinous plating is done Dump extra minerals into overlords for more exp, when you are 200/200. You should win game a bit after exp reduction kicks in.
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On January 28 2013 08:58 DrSeRRoD wrote: You keep any level 30 one you unlock.
I normally dont really care about portraits. But these are pretty unique, so that is pretty cool I guess. Thanks for the reply!
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On January 28 2013 09:38 Steglich wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 08:58 DrSeRRoD wrote: You keep any level 30 one you unlock. I normally dont really care about portraits. But these are pretty unique, so that is pretty cool I guess. Thanks for the reply! I don't know. To me it doesnt seem worthy. If it was some super cool Kerrigan portrait or pikachu zergling, then maybe. But those aren't that great to spend time on those.
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On January 28 2013 09:19 Toads wrote: i would love to do that, but with -3,157,229 xp for my zerg... I don't think i'll be able to do it before the end of the beta T__T Pls link here to your thread in the beta bug forums. Detail ur problem and ill look into it.
Same goes for anyone with the "negative xp" bug.
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The 4v4 strat seems to work for me to grind out games. All AIs are set to cheater-eco with economy builds to maximize money I can siphon + units on the other side to kill. Rush mass carrier or tank/thor on megaton off of three bases and then 1a which takes 20-25 minutes (my latest game was with carriers and was a 23 minute win for 73k + 10k bonus exp).
The most annoying part is keeping my money low by building auxiliary structures until the gg happens. I start running out of places on the map to plant bases. =(
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On January 28 2013 09:55 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 09:19 Toads wrote: i would love to do that, but with -3,157,229 xp for my zerg... I don't think i'll be able to do it before the end of the beta T__T Pls link here to your thread in the beta bug forums. Detail ur problem and ill look into it. Same goes for anyone with the "negative xp" bug. As far as I know it's not a bug. They increased the XP requirement for each level, so people got XP taken from them.
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Here is a guide for Zerg players who wants to farm EXP
Game Lenght : 14-15 mins Experience per Game : 61 000~ Race : Zerg Map : Vigilance
The lobby : - You + 3 AI (I prefer zerg allies, because you do not annoy them with creep spread) - Against 4 AI (4 Terrans, you kill everything very fast and you won't get fungaled for example) - Difficulty : Cheater Insane for everyone (you'll be able to kill more if the opponents produce more) - AI Build orders : Economic Focus for everyone - Handicap : 50% handicap for ennemies
Lobby Screenshot : + Show Spoiler +
The main goal is to do use AI ressources with the sharing system. I do a strong Muta/Ling timing with fast upgrades and a ton of macro-hatches. You will kill EVERYTHING, VERY FAST !.
Score Screenshot : + Show Spoiler +
REPLAY : - http://drop.sc/299385
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Yea, muta has been my best bet with Insane and triple hatches only mining gas and even then, I get cut down. I usually head out at about 10 minutes with about 50-60 mutas and they roll through everything and get the 50k mark by the 14 minute time. The biggest pain is setting everything up each time. Too bad 'Pla Again' doesn't copy everything. Also, every time I surrender, the game doesn't load the post-game screen, only when I win. Quite odd but delays me a bit.
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Sorry if this has been answered before but can you get a single portrait by leveling a single race to level 30? Or do you have to level all three races to 30 to get the portraits?
For example if I level zerg to 30 do I get the lurker portrait or do I have to level all three races to 30 to get the lurker portrait?
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Well. it's funny that 50% handicaped AIs give full EXP for everything.
orry if this has been answered before but can you get a single portrait by leveling a single race to level 30? Or do you have to level all three races to 30 to get the portraits?
For example if I level zerg to 30 do I get the lurker portrait or do I have to level all three races to 30 to get the lurker portrait? First, there are no Lurker portraits.
Second, if you're leveling up as Zerg, you will have more Zerg portraits. If you level up as Terran, you will have all terran portraits, same for protoss. Level up as each race and get rewards.
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Oh, thought I read somewhere that it was a lurker -.-
I mean the exclusive beta portrait that ports over to the full game. I realize that you get more portraits from the race that you mainly play. That's not what I'm asking about.
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On January 28 2013 13:39 sweetbabyjesus wrote: Oh, thought I read somewhere that it was a lurker -.-
I mean the exclusive beta portrait that ports over to the full game. I realize that you get more portraits from the race that you mainly play. That's not what I'm asking about. Profile -> Rewards -> Portraits. I don't see there special race portraits. All new portraits are rewards for leveling per each race
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Leveling per race. Got it Thank you.
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As terran - make mass Reapers with siphoning allied resources. Reapers are like Mutalisks at tier1, with healing and quick speed. When enemy handicaps are at 50%, reapers can kill everything extremely quickly.
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I hit level 10 and it's saying Maximum level attained. Anyone know why this is happening ?
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Started playing random to boost all my levels. Damn the other races are hard... I'm a diamond toss in WoL and always thought zerg was the easiest race and terran only needed a single money drop to win a game (I mean, how hard can it be to drop and press t and be guaranteed tech buildings/nexus? )
But playing random has made it quite clear that... damn it's hard :D Got destroyed as zerg versus a simple 4gate after expand...
So far 13% win rate as zerg and 17% as Terran with mmr at mid gold~
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90,0000 xp with Protoss in 26 minutes + Show Spoiler + Map: Megaton
4v4 (4 enemys 3 ally)
all A.I. set to Cheater resource and build for all set to economic focus.
Do NOT set hp for enemy at 50%. All must be at 100% (this is so you dont crush them immediately with first wave)
Strategy: Charglot archon fully upgraded
You need about 50 warp gates,
I usually get 2 Nexus to chrono upgrades
Ask for 2000 2000 resouces every 30 seconds, canceling and re requesting
Press Alt A and click on enemys base (issues ALL IN command to allys to attack) Attack with them. It will take 2-3 waves to break them. Accept the GG
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On January 28 2013 17:38 SuperYo1000 wrote:90,0000 xp with Protoss in 26 minutes + Show Spoiler +Map: Megaton 4v4 (4 enemys 3 ally) all A.I. set to Cheater resource and build for all set to economic focus. Do NOT set hp for enemy at 50%. All must be at 100% (this is so you dont crush them immediately with first wave) Strategy: Charglot archon fully upgraded You need about 50 warp gates, I usually get 2 Nexus to chrono upgrades Ask for 2000 2000 resouces every 30 seconds, canceling and re requesting Press Alt A and click on enemys base (issues ALL IN command to allys to attack) Attack with them. It will take 2-3 waves to break them. Accept the GG
But 52,000 per 12 minutes is better
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Also another tip: When you've destroyed the main army, ALT-C -> ALT-A away from the enemy so your army can take all the exp of the remaining armies and buildings.while your allies gather all their armies in one spot.
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as protoss? zerg is the 11-12 minute. You have to considered set up time as well
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On January 28 2013 17:57 SuperYo1000 wrote: as protoss? zerg is the 11-12 minute. You have to considered set up time as well
Ya as protoss haha i avg like 12 30~~ to get 52k
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On January 28 2013 18:02 phodacbiet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 17:57 SuperYo1000 wrote: as protoss? zerg is the 11-12 minute. You have to considered set up time as well
Ya as protoss haha i avg like 12 30~~ to get 52k
well I have gotten my strat to 24 minutes. Sounds like you could get my strat down to like 20.
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Is it possible to NOT make the game pause when i open up the menu vs AI? I want to mess around with new hotkey's but it doesn't let me because it pauses.
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177,500 is the level 15 cap.
It appears as if my experience is going further into the negative though, how inconvenient.
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Guys you do understand that you will be able to get this portraits after hots release, right? So all this farming with ai is a waste of time
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Portraits yes, they will probably be even deleted anyway. But not the Feat of Strength. And you can not get that after the beta ended. That is why everyone is hating. Farm farm farm (and luck to actually get into the beta (dunno when they started to give beta to preorderers from outside of the USA, but not too long ago for sure))..
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I got all of the xp levels except for level 22 Edit: Level 22 is 195,000
Level 0: 5,000 Level 1: 45,000 Level 2: 65,000 Level 3: 85,000 Level 4: 105,000 Level 5: 125,000 Level 6: 135,000 Level 7: 140,000 Level 8: 145,000 Level 9: 150,000 Level 10: 155,000 Level 11: 160,000 Level 12: 165,000 Level 13: 170,000 Level 14: 175,000 Level 15: 177,500 Level 16: 180,000 Level 17: 182,500 Level 18: 185,000 Level 19: 187,500 Level 20: 190,000 Level 21: 192,500 Level 22: 195,000 Level 23: 197,500 Level 24: 200,000 Level 25: 202,500 Level 26: 205,000 Level 27: 207,500 Level 28: 210,000 Level 29: 212,500
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On January 28 2013 20:26 dargul wrote: Guys you do understand that you will be able to get this portraits after hots release, right? So all this farming with ai is a waste of time
There are 3 exclusive ones + FoS for them specifically for level 30 (per race) in beta. These will not be available after, just the other ones that you get on the way.
On January 28 2013 18:02 phodacbiet wrote: Ya as protoss haha i avg like 12 30~~ to get 52k
What units/approach are you taking for this?
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So you think that they will change portraits for achieving lvl 30 after release? Imho who cares about 1 achievement? have you completed all achievements in WoL?
I seriosly doubt that this portraits will be removed after release because they will need reward for lvl 30 in hots after release too, and now it seems like all the portraits are set and won't be changed.
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On January 28 2013 21:50 dargul wrote: So you think that they will change portraits for achieving lvl 30 after release? Imho who cares about 1 achievement? have you completed all achievements in WoL?
I seriosly doubt that this portraits will be removed after release because they will need reward for lvl 30 in hots after release too, and now it seems like all the portraits are set and won't be changed. You don't really know how achievements work, do you? Those are Feats of Strengh, not adquirable after some time. Blizzard does this really really often in WoW, and it motivates people to try and get them. They will not be obtainable after the beta, and for some people, FoS is much better than getting all achievements anyone can get anytime. You can be 100% sure that they will change the level 30 portrait. If they don't, you won't get the FoS that comes with it.
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Based on how they said they have created "new" rewards, I'm guessing the 3 in the OP are in addition to the level 30 portrait and will be a reward for the FoS and not getting level 30. Either way, after beta is done, they will not be attainable and some people want it. If you don't care, why bother coming to a thread about it? I'm planning on going after them because it seems like a fun goal to aim for and it will get me ready for the campaign and ladder after not playing SC2 since the second season and it's a nice break from current games. To each his/her own.
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On January 27 2013 01:22 paralleluniverse wrote:As I've said on the B.net forums, this is completely outrageous and unfair.
I'm not quite sure why it's outrageous? I think you may have got your knickers in a twist over nothing.
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On January 28 2013 22:43 DrSeRRoD wrote: Based on how they said they have created "new" rewards, I'm guessing the 3 in the OP are in addition to the level 30 portrait and will be a reward for the FoS and not getting level 30. Either way, after beta is done, they will not be attainable and some people want it. If you don't care, why bother coming to a thread about it? I'm planning on going after them because it seems like a fun goal to aim for and it will get me ready for the campaign and ladder after not playing SC2 since the second season and it's a nice break from current games. To each his/her own. I just want to be 100% sure that this portraits won't be available after release. I don't care about achievement but i care about portraitrs, thats why i'm asking And i doubt simply because of current ui in hots - they could have made this icons separetely for achieving 90lvl, but no this portraits are reward for 30lvl, so imho it might stay this way after release. And if so then i don't care about getting them in beta.
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Oh, that's awesome. I love me some "exclusive" stuff!
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On January 28 2013 22:54 dargul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 22:43 DrSeRRoD wrote: Based on how they said they have created "new" rewards, I'm guessing the 3 in the OP are in addition to the level 30 portrait and will be a reward for the FoS and not getting level 30. Either way, after beta is done, they will not be attainable and some people want it. If you don't care, why bother coming to a thread about it? I'm planning on going after them because it seems like a fun goal to aim for and it will get me ready for the campaign and ladder after not playing SC2 since the second season and it's a nice break from current games. To each his/her own. I just want to be 100% sure that this portraits won't be available after release. I don't care about achievement but i care about portraitrs, thats why i'm asking And i doubt simply because of current ui in hots - they could have made this icons separetely for achieving 90lvl, but no this portraits are reward for 30lvl, so imho it might stay this way after release. And if so then i don't care about getting them in beta.
It is exclusive. Aside from that, why would they release a Warhound Portrait if that unit does not exist? Those are beta portraits for beta unit testing.
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On January 29 2013 00:24 Stingart wrote: It is exclusive. Aside from that, why would they release a Warhound Portrait if that unit does not exist? Those are beta portraits for beta unit testing. Because warhaund will be in campaign like lots of units in wol's campaign
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Full list of required experience
This shows 0 to 1 require 5000, 1 to 2 require 45000, 29 to 30 require 212500 + Show Spoiler +1 5000 2 45000 3 65000 4 85000 5 105000 6 125000 7 135000 8 140000 9 145000 10 150000 11 155000 12 160000 13 165000 14 170000 15 175000 16 177500 17 180000 18 182500 19 185000 20 187500 21 190000 22 192500 23 195000 24 197500 25 200000 26 202500 27 205000 28 207500 29 210000 30 212500
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On January 29 2013 06:44 AngeBeatrice wrote:Full list of required experience This shows 0 to 1 require 5000, 1 to 2 require 45000, 29 to 30 require 212500 + Show Spoiler +1 5000 2 45000 3 65000 4 85000 5 105000 6 125000 7 135000 8 140000 9 145000 10 150000 11 155000 12 160000 13 165000 14 170000 15 175000 16 177500 17 180000 18 182500 19 185000 20 187500 21 190000 22 192500 23 195000 24 197500 25 200000 26 202500 27 205000 28 207500 29 210000 30 212500
Many thanks to you and WatchInAwe for this list
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On January 29 2013 00:31 dargul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 00:24 Stingart wrote: It is exclusive. Aside from that, why would they release a Warhound Portrait if that unit does not exist? Those are beta portraits for beta unit testing. Because warhaund will be in campaign like lots of units in wol's campaign
Will it?
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On January 29 2013 08:50 Stingart wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 00:31 dargul wrote:On January 29 2013 00:24 Stingart wrote: It is exclusive. Aside from that, why would they release a Warhound Portrait if that unit does not exist? Those are beta portraits for beta unit testing. Because warhaund will be in campaign like lots of units in wol's campaign Will it? We will fight with mercenaries. Warhound is a mercenary leader unit.
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Ugh, I decided to not go for 30 anymore. Too time consuming. But then I saw how little exp you actually need per level. Provided they keep beta up until at least the end of February (I heard the day before actual release, but haven't seen any sources), I think I can do it, maybe with two races even.
Thanks for posting the whole chart for exp needed to level, got my motivation back again.
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On January 29 2013 09:44 RiceAgainst wrote: Ugh, I decided to not go for 30 anymore. Too time consuming. But then I saw how little exp you actually need per level. Provided they keep beta up until at least the end of February (I heard the day before actual release, but haven't seen any sources), I think I can do it, maybe with two races even.
Thanks for posting the whole chart for exp needed to level, got my motivation back again.
If you're doing the 4v4 strat, then you should be pulling in 70-80k exp every 20-25 minutes. This amounts to ~26 hours of gameplay to max out a race.
...it's actually not as bad as I thought it would be. But maybe years of MMOs have tempered my expectations accordingly.
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On January 29 2013 09:44 RiceAgainst wrote: Provided they keep beta up until at least the end of February (I heard the day before actual release, but haven't seen any sources) I would like to read your (imaginary ?) sources. Blizzard never closed a Beta the day before release.
Beta was closed 2-3 weeks before release date for the previous Blizzard games.
WoL Beta closed June 8th 2010 WoL was released June 27th 2010
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On January 29 2013 11:04 Shade_CsT wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 09:44 RiceAgainst wrote: Provided they keep beta up until at least the end of February (I heard the day before actual release, but haven't seen any sources) I would like to read your (imaginary ?) sources. Blizzard never closed a Beta the day before release. Beta was closed 2-3 weeks before release date for the previous Blizzard games. WoL Beta closed June 8th 2010 WoL was released June 27th 2010
Like I said, I heard it but never actually saw any sources. If they do the 2-3 weeks like they did with WoL, it should put it around the end of February so this is still very much doable.
The farming part is what makes the grind less interesting, because it's so repetitive. But that's what grinding/farming is, right? The 50k/20 minutes is more fun for me, since the ladder AI will play different races and go different builds (beyond my control), plus it improves my 1v1 a little bit, so then it seems less grind-y and more practice-y. Ahh whatever, good luck to you guys, good luck to me! Definitely not an impossible task, far from it.
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I actually just play match making against AI. At the highest level, I can beat AI in 17 minutes as Terran with 47k experience. Not too bad compared to 50k experience in 15 minutes.
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Its odd I started doing this with the last major patch as I wanted to get to level 90 (just for me). I am currently 85 with 5 levels of terran to go.
However I hate terran and its tedious as hell at this point.
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On January 29 2013 06:44 AngeBeatrice wrote:Full list of required experience This shows 0 to 1 require 5000, 1 to 2 require 45000, 29 to 30 require 212500 + Show Spoiler +1 5000 2 45000 3 65000 4 85000 5 105000 6 125000 7 135000 8 140000 9 145000 10 150000 11 155000 12 160000 13 165000 14 170000 15 175000 16 177500 17 180000 18 182500 19 185000 20 187500 21 190000 22 192500 23 195000 24 197500 25 200000 26 202500 27 205000 28 207500 29 210000 30 212500 Thats 4 750 000 exp total. 95 x 50k exp for each race. Good luck! :D
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Will we have more exp from killing time-based units, like Locusts, Turrets and Infested Terrans?
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Thats 4 750 000 exp total. 95 x 50k exp for each race. Good luck! :D No, it's 4.750.000 exp per each race
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On January 29 2013 19:32 Existor wrote:No, it's 4.750.000 exp per each race Thats why i wrote 95 x 50k for each race.
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I wonder if there's a way to have afk farm exp by making swarm hosts and attacking into the AI. It would have to be really precise so that the AI can build an army at the same rate of locusts spawning.
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On January 29 2013 20:27 HoriZoNXI wrote: I wonder if there's a way to have afk farm exp by making swarm hosts and attacking into the AI. It would have to be really precise so that the AI can build an army at the same rate of locusts spawning.
I did a pretty AFK build with protoss. Start game with all medium AI and enemy set @ 50%. Go do whatever you want, come back to the game @ 5 minutes, request 9950 resources > macro up till 6~10 stargates > cancel request of resources. Come back 3 minutes later > request 9950 resources > macro around 20 VR > Patrol them around the enemy's bases > come back 5 minutes later > accept AI surrender.
This takes around 3~6 Alt tabs to make it work, very afk-ish and you can do a lot of other stuff while gaining XP. Not the fastest method, but the most practical if you want to do other stuff.
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Best AFK strategy?
Have Ally Cheater (Insane) AI at Economy Focus Have Enemy Very Easy AI at whatever
Set AI attack marker inside your base. At 5 min mark request 9950 min 9950 gas (max amount) Be back at 15- 20 min, build tech buildings, request 9950 9950 again (almost imedietaly gain at this moment). Spent it all, kill enemy, GG with 3 Alt Tabs, with <10 minutes actually playing.
PS: Having Enemy set as very easy means you cant literraly lose, so u can be AFK as much as u like (keep your AI attack point inside your base).
EDIT: This game miss one thing. The PLAY AGAIN button should create lobby with the same AI settings as in game already played.
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On January 29 2013 19:14 Ch3rry wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 06:44 AngeBeatrice wrote:Full list of required experience This shows 0 to 1 require 5000, 1 to 2 require 45000, 29 to 30 require 212500 + Show Spoiler +1 5000 2 45000 3 65000 4 85000 5 105000 6 125000 7 135000 8 140000 9 145000 10 150000 11 155000 12 160000 13 165000 14 170000 15 175000 16 177500 17 180000 18 182500 19 185000 20 187500 21 190000 22 192500 23 195000 24 197500 25 200000 26 202500 27 205000 28 207500 29 210000 30 212500 Thats 4 750 000 exp total. 95 x 50k exp for each race. Good luck! :D
That is not that much as it sounds. You probably don't start from zero (levels were not reset in the last patch.) A game I play normally yieds about 62-65k XP. A game versus computers is not as stressful as a ladder game.
Even though I am partly afk, a game lasts about 20-22 blizzard minutes only, so about 15 real minutes. That means, a race can be got from level 1 to 30 within less than 20 hours of time. I guess it could be done faster with the proper strategy.
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On January 29 2013 23:48 [F_]aths wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 19:14 Ch3rry wrote:On January 29 2013 06:44 AngeBeatrice wrote:Full list of required experience This shows 0 to 1 require 5000, 1 to 2 require 45000, 29 to 30 require 212500 + Show Spoiler +1 5000 2 45000 3 65000 4 85000 5 105000 6 125000 7 135000 8 140000 9 145000 10 150000 11 155000 12 160000 13 165000 14 170000 15 175000 16 177500 17 180000 18 182500 19 185000 20 187500 21 190000 22 192500 23 195000 24 197500 25 200000 26 202500 27 205000 28 207500 29 210000 30 212500 Thats 4 750 000 exp total. 95 x 50k exp for each race. Good luck! :D That is not that much as it sounds. You probably don't start from zero (levels were not reset in the last patch.) A game I play normally yieds about 62-65k XP. A game versus computers is not as stressful as a ladder game. Nonetheless, You need to spend around 90 hrs in game playing whatever You want.
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On January 29 2013 23:51 Ch3rry wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 23:48 [F_]aths wrote:On January 29 2013 19:14 Ch3rry wrote:On January 29 2013 06:44 AngeBeatrice wrote:Full list of required experience This shows 0 to 1 require 5000, 1 to 2 require 45000, 29 to 30 require 212500 + Show Spoiler +1 5000 2 45000 3 65000 4 85000 5 105000 6 125000 7 135000 8 140000 9 145000 10 150000 11 155000 12 160000 13 165000 14 170000 15 175000 16 177500 17 180000 18 182500 19 185000 20 187500 21 190000 22 192500 23 195000 24 197500 25 200000 26 202500 27 205000 28 207500 29 210000 30 212500 Thats 4 750 000 exp total. 95 x 50k exp for each race. Good luck! :D That is not that much as it sounds. You probably don't start from zero (levels were not reset in the last patch.) A game I play normally yieds about 62-65k XP. A game versus computers is not as stressful as a ladder game. Nonetheless, You need to spend around 90 hrs in game playing whatever You want. As I just show, less than 60 hours actually. So it's manageable.
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Yea, if you get games to <15 minutes (c. 10-11 real minutes) and take advantage of the extra 10k bonus daily, you can make the grind pretty efficient (about 20 hours per race). It may not be as fun or relaxing but it can shed about 30+ hours off the required time to complete. I figure I can grind now and then relax when the game is released and earn them via ladder. But right now, as Sweet Brown says, ain't nobody got time for that!
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Oh, You're right. I count 90 hours in Blizzard time, so it could be near 60 real time
Also AFK strats are working just fine :D
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AFK strats just seem to be too slow and risky since we don't know the close of beta yet. It would be mid February for all we know. I'd rather cut 5-10 minutes off each game and get the portraits faster and then take my time practicing real builds against people or taking a break so HoTS release seems more 'fresh' after the grind.
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I've been averaging 55,000 xp per 15 minutes (blizzard). 4,750,000 exp to max level = 86~ games to get max level
not that bad IMO, especially considering that I only want one of the portraits. I'll probably do 1/4 (around 20) of the games each day for 4 days
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Quickmatch says the season ends 1. march 2013. So that's 2 weeks before the actual release. I think that sounds about right.
I'll just do 2 farming games for about 70k/20 minutes and a few quick matches if there is time for it. Should be enough to get to level 30 before the end of the beta.
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On January 29 2013 23:01 Ch3rry wrote: Best AFK strategy? As Zerg I'm doing something even more AFK:
Have Ally Cheater (Insane) AI at Economy Focus Have Enemy Very Easy AI at whatever Set AI attack marker inside your base. +5min: request 10k mineral, spend all drones on hatcheries + a pool +5min: request again, spend all larvas on overlords, fill the queues of queens +5min: request again, inject, spend all larvas on overlords, fill the queues of queens
If you request 4 times 10k min + what you mine you should have about 50k points, so just can just ask the ai to kill the very easy one! However if what want to minimize is your number on actions you better let them mine out the map and spend it all in overlords.
(btw it's a 66% reduction not 77% )
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Top AFK:
Have Ally Cheater (Insane) AI at Economy Focus Have Enemy Very Easy AI at whatever Set AI attack marker inside your base. Alt+Tab, return at 20 min mark, spend all you can get
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It's easier for zergs to reach max level because of larva mechanic which allows to make a lot of units, so you need resources and overlords for them.
It levels up a bit slower as protoss and terran I think
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Yes zerg has some boons:
- You can spend minerals even if you maxed by building overlords - You can spend gas even if you maxed by morphing overseers - You can explode banes to free up supply - You can use the nydus trick to get rid of ground supply quickly
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On January 30 2013 03:02 [F_]aths wrote: Yes zerg has some boons:
- You can spend minerals even if you maxed by building overlords - You can spend gas even if you maxed by morphing overseers - You can explode banes to free up supply - You can use the nydus trick to get rid of ground supply quickly
What would you say is the fastest way as zerg to get 50K? Can you do 14 minute games?
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I do 13-14 minute games with Zerg using a Muta build. I'm sure protoss with mass Warpgate will be equally fast, if not faster since there will be no travel time with proxy pylons. Terran is going to be the biggest pain unless I build everything in the middle of the map or closer since the travel time delays the killing xp.
E: Is anyone running sub-15 minute 50k xp games with Terran? I'd like to know what strategies you are using.
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I land at around 15-16 blizzard minutes with 3 bases, 5 hatches/queens, 1 evo and lings. Both mutas and ultras take a few minutes longer.
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For Zerg if I'm not doing AFK builds, I train Stephano PvZ 12:00 min 200-max-Roaches. With AI money u can have full roach army around 10 minute mark, and kill enemy AI until 15:00.
I need tips for Terran, have hardest time with them.
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Best map for farming is Magma Core. I think it's the smallest 4v4 map, so you don't need to travel through map to kill ninja-expands from AI. Also this map is good for your AI defenders and Protoss proxy stargates.
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I personally like mixing up the maps, makes it less tedious
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This is just a guess, but I think the beta will end on March 1st since that is the end of the ladder season.
I want to try out these afk strategies. They seem good.
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On January 30 2013 05:50 Ch3rry wrote: For Zerg if I'm not doing AFK builds, I train Stephano PvZ 12:00 min 200-max-Roaches. With AI money u can have full roach army around 10 minute mark, and kill enemy AI until 15:00.
I need tips for Terran, have hardest time with them. Try mass reaper? They can heal themselfs and can be massed from mass reactors, plus fast speed and cliff jumping
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On January 30 2013 07:21 Existor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 05:50 Ch3rry wrote: For Zerg if I'm not doing AFK builds, I train Stephano PvZ 12:00 min 200-max-Roaches. With AI money u can have full roach army around 10 minute mark, and kill enemy AI until 15:00.
I need tips for Terran, have hardest time with them. Try mass reaper? They can heal themselfs and can be massed from mass reactors, plus fast speed and cliff jumping
I know you haven't tried out reapers, if you did then you'd know how bad they are to level with.
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On January 30 2013 04:08 Stingart wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 03:02 [F_]aths wrote: Yes zerg has some boons:
- You can spend minerals even if you maxed by building overlords - You can spend gas even if you maxed by morphing overseers - You can explode banes to free up supply - You can use the nydus trick to get rid of ground supply quickly What would you say is the fastest way as zerg to get 50K? Can you do 14 minute games?
With the ultralisk build I put page 6 you can usually reach 50k exp solo at around 12:20 ingame time, then stay one extra minute to finish bases for extra exp.
But fastest way to get exp so far for me is to add someone as Real-ID friend then play 4v4 with everyone 50% hp. 1 player in each team siphoning res from allied AIs. Then each player just build units and suicide them into other player. As Zerg you can build swarm hosts and overlord for instance as they don't attack. With this 2 player build you can reach 50k in a bit more than 12 ingame minutes as well, but with Real-ID bonus it makes it between 62-65k at end of game, so slightly faster than solo play.
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On January 30 2013 04:22 DrSeRRoD wrote: E: Is anyone running sub-15 minute 50k xp games with Terran? I'd like to know what strategies you are using.
Megaton 4v4, Cheater (Economy) and economic buildorder (!) CPUs. 70 % Handicap for the enemies, 50 % for your allies (or just tell them to stay inside their bases). Stay on one base, build a few rax and supply depots. When you can ask for resources, start building rax (about 10-12) with reactors and just pump marines. Rally them at the middle and send group after group to engage the enemy. Don't destroy too much of their production and their eco with the first attacks, fight their armies. After the first few attacks it doesn't matter anymore. After about 14 minutes, you've got your 50k. Might still be improved in some ways, but works very well. Upgrades don't hurt and help spending minerals and gas for extra xp.
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On January 30 2013 07:28 Stingart wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 07:21 Existor wrote:On January 30 2013 05:50 Ch3rry wrote: For Zerg if I'm not doing AFK builds, I train Stephano PvZ 12:00 min 200-max-Roaches. With AI money u can have full roach army around 10 minute mark, and kill enemy AI until 15:00.
I need tips for Terran, have hardest time with them. Try mass reaper? They can heal themselfs and can be massed from mass reactors, plus fast speed and cliff jumping I know you haven't tried out reapers, if you did then you'd know how bad they are to level with. I've tried and it worked well sometimes, especially against 50% handicaped AI
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On January 28 2013 15:11 Enchanted wrote: I hit level 10 and it's saying Maximum level attained. Anyone know why this is happening ?
Hey did you find a fix?
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Don't know if this is intended (probably isn't) but Protoss level 13-14 says next unlock is Medivac, which should actually be the Terran 13-14 unlock. Oracle portrait should be the Protoss one, but is glitched out for me, might try to get it by getting Terran level 14. Anyways, someone might wanna send a bug report to Blizzard about this, thanks.
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On January 30 2013 09:57 phodacbiet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 15:11 Enchanted wrote: I hit level 10 and it's saying Maximum level attained. Anyone know why this is happening ? Hey did you find a fix?
If anyone is having this or the negative bug problem please make a thread in the bnet forums and link it here.
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UPDATE
Hey everyone,
We are definitely aware of the various issues surrounding the leveling system in the HotS Beta right now. Though the timing of these issues is unfortunate, and certainly very frustrating for those of you working toward the level 30 rewards, I can assure you we're working hard to squash these bugs.
I'd like to ask that you consolidate your experiences with leveling system bugs here, rather than create new threads. Thank you very much for your patience, we'll provide more updates on the status of these issues as soon as we can. -Spyrian
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7788739133#1
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Dunno if it's been said but warping in templar, grabbing a drink and then storming themselves (rinse repeat) seems to be a great way to do it as Protoss.
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On January 30 2013 14:35 TheDougler wrote: Dunno if it's been said but warping in templar, grabbing a drink and then storming themselves (rinse repeat) seems to be a great way to do it as Protoss.
Warp 5-10 templars. Use pylons to make a cage. Warp dark templars and move them all into cage. You can also forcefield entrance. Storm eveyone in a cage => profit.
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Just got 92k EXP in 30 mins as Protoss on Megaton 4v4.
All 3 ally AIs to Cheater Resources All 4 enemies to Cheater Resources
Go straight for Voidray/Tempest/Carrier while simultaneously pumping out every upgrade in the book for Protoss, requesting 1000/1000 from AI allies every 1 minute or when needed. Try to starve your allies so you get all the kills but don't starve them too much where they can't help you. Around 20 min or so, you should have a good sized 3/3/3 Air Deathball (mothership is optional) and just A move to enemy bases. This is the time to just spam all your money on Nexii and gateways to get as much EXP as possible.
Keep producing tempest/voids/carriers or you can transition to colossus if you like.
Win game, don't accept GG just yet, destroy all units and buildings if you can for maximum xp. If this is your first win of the win, you will receive at LEAST 100k if done correctly.
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On January 30 2013 15:01 Bargil wrote: Just got 92k EXP in 30 mins as Protoss on Megaton 4v4.
All 3 ally AIs to Cheater Resources All 4 enemies to Cheater Resources
Go straight for Voidray/Tempest/Carrier while simultaneously pumping out every upgrade in the book for Protoss, requesting 1000/1000 from AI allies every 1 minute or when needed. Try to starve your allies so you get all the kills but don't starve them too much where they can't help you. Around 20 min or so, you should have a good sized 3/3/3 Air Deathball (mothership is optional) and just A move to enemy bases. This is the time to just spam all your money on Nexii and gateways to get as much EXP as possible.
Keep producing tempest/voids/carriers or you can transition to colossus if you like.
Win game, don't accept GG just yet, destroy all units and buildings if you can for maximum xp. If this is your first win of the win, you will receive at LEAST 100k if done correctly.
u can solo 60k in 12mins tho
im looking for a masters level player (pref zerg) to do some games with me
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On January 30 2013 04:08 Stingart wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 03:02 [F_]aths wrote: Yes zerg has some boons:
- You can spend minerals even if you maxed by building overlords - You can spend gas even if you maxed by morphing overseers - You can explode banes to free up supply - You can use the nydus trick to get rid of ground supply quickly What would you say is the fastest way as zerg to get 50K? Can you do 14 minute games? Currently I try to quit a game when I don't get full XP anymore. With this approach, a game often lasts less than 14 real time minutes (but >14 minutes ingame-clock time.)
Generally I think lower-tech approaches work well. I tried ultra-ling for zerg, then went muta, then just roach-max (versus protoss.) As protoss, I mostly do void-rays. As terran I tried mass battlecruisers but rauder-max seems to be quicker (versus protoss, too.)
Don't waste your time to build up an economy on your own. Continue to request resources from the AI allies (both allies and enemys as Cheater Insane.) Just build enough SCVs to mass out those barracks.
Unless you are zerg, don't play with zerg allies. They will expand creep into your base. Also I rather don't play versus zerg because of the fungals which slows down my attack.
I usually only upgrade attack, not armor. The reason is that I want to lose my army in the first push anyway to remax. Also the enemies are set to 50% HP (this still delivers full XP for killing their units and buildings) to maw through them quickly.
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ive got this "win as zerg within 13-15 in game mins" down pretty pat if anyone wants a replay or i guess i could stream it...
justin.tv/eosgreen if anyone is interested its pretty simple
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Any nice way for Protoss ? Just found some nice Z and T strategies in this thread. thank you
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On January 30 2013 20:52 Lephex wrote:Any nice way for Protoss ? Just found some nice Z and T strategies in this thread. thank you
4v4 strat. Go normal gateway into cybernetics core then research warpgate and make about 20-30 warpgates. Get a twilight council (research charge) and a templar archives. Remember to continually drain resources from allies. Warp zealots when you're high on minerals and high templar (morph into archons) when you're high on gas. Attack around 10-11 minutes with allies then order them to pull back when you're sure you can defeat all the AI by yourself. Continually warp in units until the exp decrease occurs and leave immediately (optional for maximum efficiency). Should take no more than 15 minutes.
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Zerg no brainer:
3x Cheater Insane Economic AI Ally 1x Very Easy Enemy Spam Hatcheries, Queens, Overlords Morph Hatcheries to Lair Morph Overlords into Overseers
Not the fastest, but WAY EASIEST sub-bronze difficulty
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I tried rushing Ultras but they were very hit or miss. When the enemy army stacked behind buildings, the ultras would get demolished in the first wave and ended up being about 2-3 minutes slower than mass +1 mutas. When they would successfully slash the armies into pieces, they were about on par or slightly faster than my muta cloud but less mobile. Definitely sticking to the consistent mutas, especially for the mobility and awesome regen. If I get hit hard, I run out and wait for the next wave and they are all back to green and ready to fight again.
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You can get 50-60k in 13-16 minutes doing the 4v4 with 50% handicap strategy with pretty much any units (and no messing around with AI races). Just upgrade ASAP and keep upgrading and you'll be 2-2 vs 0-0. I've done it with MMM, mass thors, mass mutas, mass ling/ultra, mass zealot/archon, mass talkers, mass carrier, etc. etc.
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I've found there is no reason to find a way to kill your army to build a new one.. I play 4v4 vs very easy AI, and when maxed, i send all my units to clear their bases. As they are killing it, i keep asking for money and build useless buildings with it.. as they count for XP as well. Usually I leave even before I've finished killing everything, as I get XP capped before that.
With my awful gold-level macro, I can still reach maximim XP in about 16 minutes.
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Just posted
We made some improvements which we think should help address this this issue; however, the changes that were made may cause the following side effects: Anyone who participated in the leveling system prior to beta patch 2.0.3 will have their levels/XP reverted back to where they were at the time beta patch 2.0.3 was released last Thursday, January 24. There may be a small percentage of people who are reverted back a little further. Players who started leveling after beta patch 2.0.3 was released and reached level 6 or higher will be reverted back to the end of level 5. Players who started leveling after beta patch 2.0.3 was released and have not reached level 5 will be unaffected along with those who have not yet participated in the leveling system. Following this change, XP may start showing up as a negative value temporarily, but as you gain XP, it will start displaying normally once again.
Thank you all for your patience as we look into this issue. Please let us know if you experience any other side effects as a result of this change. -Aldrexus
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7810050954
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this is such shit man i lost 7 lvls
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i hope blizzard extends the beta just a bit longer because of this bug, not a lot of people will get to the max level for all three races if they keep getting level losses.
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Wait what the fuck blizzard i lost 10 levels
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I know it's beta and it's only a stupid picture, but i lost 2.3 mio according to the - value on the profile. Such a bad start in to the longest day of the week
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Blizzard, are you out of your mind??
To fix leveling issue for some players, You made that issue affect ALL acounts above level 5? I think I need a free day before leveling again...
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seems I must of slipped thru the cracks cuz I havent been affected by this update...btw im level 24
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I just gave up on it. Its just a waste of time. It takes way to long to reach 30.
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I actually gained levels, my account level was 29 while all my race levels added up before today was like 25, now everything has been corrected and all of my experience gained is actually correct. Also, to anyone who thinks they should blame blizzard because they lost levels...it's a beta. You are doing what you should be doing in a beta. Don't blame blizzard for doing what they are supposed to do as well >_>
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I'm still level 16. Has this not hit Europe yet? Would be pretty sad to loose all this exp.
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Got hit (EU player) down from lvl 21 to 5 ... seriously blizzard
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On January 31 2013 16:47 Melwach wrote: I'm still level 16. Has this not hit Europe yet? Would be pretty sad to loose all this exp.
There is no EU Beta server...
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I think my experience got reset to -750k. I had just gotten it above -550k too, =/
EDIT: Ha, that puts me at 928,067 experience until my next level. I could get to level 30 four times with that.
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Down to 5 from 25 for protoss. Pathetic... -3.200.000 exp. It fixed my zerg negative experience, but I don't really care of zerg. Such a nice gift =\
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Oh wtf.. I just did 25 levels straight... I dont even want to log on and check what level I am now TT
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On January 31 2013 17:56 DeCoup wrote: Oh wtf.. I just did 25 levels straight... I dont even want to log on and check what level I am now TT
5 probably
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On January 31 2013 17:18 Dirkinity wrote: There is no EU Beta server...
Haha, oh. Right. Well, I guess I'm damn lucky then.
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Thx God! I didnt lost agian exp so I am still lvl 20... I lost 5 lvl after realese of patch 2.0.3 so I will quit leveling if blizz took me agian my exp, it sucks so hard that they punish players for their own fault.
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Oh thank god im still level 28. Fuck me you guys almost gave me a heart attack.
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I'm still 31, and I have the Zerg thingy... that portrait will be a rare available to beta testers only once HOTs hits retail? I did zero work to get it.
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On January 31 2013 20:32 Integra wrote: I'm still 31, and I have the Zerg thingy... that portrait will be a rare available to beta testers only once HOTs hits retail? I did zero work to get it. XP is not about work or skill, its just about time invested. Even if you used the 4v4 trick with the AFK based strat it still takes a fair bit of time. And personally I am glad that blizzard is rewarding us for helping them to develop the game. They need us beta testing as much as we can. Just look at what the beta was like before patch 1.
The point of XP (imo) is to give new or casual players a sense of achievement even when they loose. The goal being to try to get them past ladder anxiety and the crushing blow that a 50% loss rate brings some people. Hopefully the experience system will achieve this goal and encourage new players to learn to understand the game before giving up on it. For everyone else its either meaningless or an unimportant bonus.
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I was doing fine with Zerg yesterday and suddenly I get hit with -3million xp. I had no issue at all before this latest "fix" and now it seems I will have to start over though my level did not change. Is it just a display issue or will I be grinding all the way to the 20s again? The reset is the dumbest solution I've seen considering the reward is to reach max XP in this limited amount of time left in beta.
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Haha I was level 11, playing normally and after a game I suddenly realized that I was at level 15 and with all the rewards from level 11~15.
I feel bad for those going for the portraits and got their XP taken. :p
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lost 10 lvls... I guess that's the hazards of playing in betas :D
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OMG I lost 4 days of hard work due to Blizzard's 'fix'.
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On January 31 2013 21:54 [F_]aths wrote: OMG I lost 4 days of hard work due to Blizzard's 'fix'.
Hard work? It's a beta. You didn't lose anything that you weren't gonna lose come release..
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On January 31 2013 21:55 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 21:54 [F_]aths wrote: OMG I lost 4 days of hard work due to Blizzard's 'fix'. Hard work? It's a beta. You didn't lose anything that you weren't gonna lose come release.. I was working towards the portraits, so I did lose the time.
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^ Nice. I was calculating and should have been done by tomorrow night, but with the newly rewarded -3million xp, it looks like I've been pushed back about 60 games (c. 5 days for me) with Zerg. I really would love to know who thought this was a great fix and hope it doesn't occur again which, being a beta test, is totally possible.
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It looks like my zerg level (which was reached after 24th of January) also survived. So I only lost XP for terrans and some for protoss, meaning I lost "only" 2 days of hard work.
Can someone with a US account (I have HotS EU) post in this thread http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7810050954 and ask if the max level reached between 24th and 31th of January is indeed intended to stay and not affected by the XP revert?
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Yeah, the pushback stinks, but more than that it's the fear that they could do it again... having lost days of work sucks, but what if they reset the XP again? Apart from the additional lost time, it could also make the achievements almost unreachable.. I understand that a beta is meant to have problems, but this "fix" from Blizzard was a rough one..
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Try to play a bit. I had minus million EXP and after some games it became again a normal 100-200k exp.
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On January 31 2013 22:40 Existor wrote: Try to play a bit. I had minus million EXP and after some games it became again a normal 100-200k exp.
Apparently it is a display issue for those that did not lose levels which is fixed from playing and earning some experience. Can anyone else confirm that they 1) lost no levels, 2) had negative xp for a race and 3) played the race with negative and had their xp changed back to non-negative? Hopefully this is the case so not everyone got screwed that show negative xp if your level did not change. It does suck for those that lost entire levels. XP bonuses would be great as you can see from screenshots floating around, those are planned for the future but I don't think they will be in Beta since they want to test the base xp speed. I'd guess that they will increase the amount needed for each level for release though so it takes longer to achieve than c. 100 games per race. I'd guess the XP will double or triple at least to provide a bit of longevity. We will find out in under 6 weeks!
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i just got reseted to lvl 5 ... mean shit
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On January 31 2013 23:12 DrSeRRoD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 22:40 Existor wrote: Try to play a bit. I had minus million EXP and after some games it became again a normal 100-200k exp. Apparently it is a display issue for those that did not lose levels which is fixed from playing and earning some experience. Can anyone else confirm that they 1) lost no levels, 2) had negative xp for a race and 3) played the race with negative and had their xp changed back to non-negative? Hopefully this is the case so not everyone got screwed that show negative xp if your level did not change. It does suck for those that lost entire levels. XP bonuses would be great as you can see from screenshots floating around, those are planned for the future but I don't think they will be in Beta since they want to test the base xp speed. I'd guess that they will increase the amount needed for each level for release though so it takes longer to achieve than c. 100 games per race. I'd guess the XP will double or triple at least to provide a bit of longevity. We will find out in under 6 weeks! Well, Blizzard already said that people with negative XP should play some games and it will normalize. And remember that it's much less than 6 weeks. The beta closes 2 or 3 weeks before release. Don't think that you have until March 11th to get the portraits.
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On January 31 2013 23:12 DrSeRRoD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 22:40 Existor wrote: Try to play a bit. I had minus million EXP and after some games it became again a normal 100-200k exp. Apparently it is a display issue for those that did not lose levels which is fixed from playing and earning some experience. Can anyone else confirm that they 1) lost no levels, 2) had negative xp for a race and 3) played the race with negative and had their xp changed back to non-negative? Hopefully this is the case so not everyone got screwed that show negative xp if your level did not change. It does suck for those that lost entire levels. XP bonuses would be great as you can see from screenshots floating around, those are planned for the future but I don't think they will be in Beta since they want to test the base xp speed. I'd guess that they will increase the amount needed for each level for release though so it takes longer to achieve than c. 100 games per race. I'd guess the XP will double or triple at least to provide a bit of longevity. We will find out in under 6 weeks! Forget the level display in the profile. The real level is the one which is shown after a game.
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On January 31 2013 23:48 Hoon wrote: Well, Blizzard already said that people with negative XP should play some games and it will normalize. And remember that it's much less than 6 weeks. The beta closes 2 or 3 weeks before release. Don't think that you have until March 11th to get the portraits.
By 6 weeks I mean the release so we find out what the "real" xp system will be like. I'm going to assume that when Februrary ends (or this Season on March 1st), so will the beta.
On January 31 2013 23:48 [F_]aths wrote: Forget the level display in the profile. The real level is the one which is shown after a game.
Mine never shows up (aside from 1st win) unless I take the extra time to finish the game and 'win' instead of dropping at the reduction. I'll go through a full win tonight and see if the level on the screen shows something different than the profile.
On January 31 2013 23:29 AcidKing wrote: i just got reseted to lvl 5 ... mean shit
Does it show level 5 on your portrait or just in the score screen after a game (or both)?
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On January 31 2013 23:56 DrSeRRoD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 23:48 Hoon wrote: Well, Blizzard already said that people with negative XP should play some games and it will normalize. And remember that it's much less than 6 weeks. The beta closes 2 or 3 weeks before release. Don't think that you have until March 11th to get the portraits. By 6 weeks I mean the release so we find out what the "real" xp system will be like. I'm going to assume that when Februrary ends (or this Season on March 1st), so will the beta. Oh, ok. I thought you thought that you had 6 weeks to get level 30. That would be a pretty bad surprise if you found out that you were 2 weeks short by the end of February. :p
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On January 27 2013 01:22 paralleluniverse wrote:As I've said on the B.net forums, this is completely outrageous and unfair.
People like you that feel entitled to something as small as a portrait make up less than .01% of their playerbase. God forbid anyone that spends a significant amount of time testing out the Heart of the Swarm beta be rewarded with a small cosmetic portrait. How unfair that I dedicated my time to playing the beta, a beta that ANYONE can get into now if they preorder.
You make up such a minute amount of their playerbase, they honestly don't care about you.
[edit] BTW, Blizzard have a ton of Feats of Strength cosmetic rewards throughout all of their games. When I preordered the deluxe edition of HotS I got Kerrigan wings for my Diablo 3 character. I assume this is also unfair and outrageous. If I had gotten the Blizzcon 2011 stream access I would have gotten the panda portrait. This is also unfair too, right?
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I have a problem, my xp shows up as negtive. For example in profile i am lvl 9 zerg with minus 400k xp. When i complete a game as zerg i am level 6. Yesterday i was level 9 zerg on both places, i have defenetly played up to level 9 since the reset (from 1-9 in last 3 days)
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On February 01 2013 00:36 Fus wrote: I have a problem, my xp shows up as negtive. For example in profile i am lvl 9 zerg with minus 400k xp. When i complete a game as zerg i am level 6. Yesterday i was level 9 zerg on both places, i have defenetly played up to level 9 since the reset (from 1-9 in last 3 days)
There was a recent "fix" which effectively reset a lot of people back to level 5. It seems you were one of the affected people and will have to level again. Luckily, it's not as bad as the millions that some people got hit with that were in the 20s for a race.
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Good news, my max Zerg stuck. Bad news, my Terran went from 21 to 5. =(
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On January 31 2013 23:12 DrSeRRoD wrote: Apparently it is a display issue for those that did not lose levels which is fixed from playing and earning some experience. Can anyone else confirm that they 1) lost no levels, 2) had negative xp for a race and 3) played the race with negative and had their xp changed back to non-negative?
Well, gotta revoke my previous statement. 16 to 5 The drop became visible after playing a game and earning experience. Portrait still shows the old number though.
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That sucks. I'm sure my newly 23 Zerg was set back to 5 as well. I'm not sure if I feel confident enough to spend another 5 days to get it back with the possibility of losing it again always right around the corner.
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On January 31 2013 23:56 DrSeRRoD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 23:48 [F_]aths wrote: Forget the level display in the profile. The real level is the one which is shown after a game. Mine never shows up (aside from 1st win) unless I take the extra time to finish the game and 'win' instead of dropping at the reduction. I'll go through a full win tonight and see if the level on the screen shows something different than the profile. I also only see the level when I win the game. Sometimes I leave because I don't want to waste the time to kill every AI opponent after the XP reduction. I get the XP for that game though.
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On February 01 2013 02:04 [F_]aths wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 23:56 DrSeRRoD wrote:On January 31 2013 23:48 [F_]aths wrote: Forget the level display in the profile. The real level is the one which is shown after a game. Mine never shows up (aside from 1st win) unless I take the extra time to finish the game and 'win' instead of dropping at the reduction. I'll go through a full win tonight and see if the level on the screen shows something different than the profile. I also only see the level when I win the game. Sometimes I leave because I don't want to waste the time to kill every AI opponent after the XP reduction. I get the XP for that game though.
Yea, I don't know if it is a bug or what but when I leave a game vs. AI, it will never load the score screen. I know I still get xp for the game, just odd I don't see how much, how I did, and how much progress to the next level.
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lvl 17 to 5 I'm not happy.
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Mine also dropped from Protoss level 9 to level 5. I have -500,000 xp.
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"As a result of the leveling issues that several players experienced shortly after beta patch 2.0.3 was released, we have decided to lower the leveling requirement for the Feat of Strength and portraits announced in the Call to Action: Heart of the Swarm Beta Leveling blog. For each faction you manage to raise to level 5, you'll receive an exclusive character portrait specific to that race when Heart of the Swarm is released on March 12, 2013. Please note that even though these rewards are still tied to level 30 in the beta, each faction reward will be assigned to your permanent account when Swarm is released if you reach level 5, in the beta, with that faction.
Once again, thank you all for thoroughly testing the leveling system during this phase of the beta. We sincerely apologize to everyone who encountered these leveling bugs and are extremely sorry to hear that so many of you were reverted back several levels as a result of yesterday’s change. We appreciate your patience and hope to see you all on the ladder soon."
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Yea, that is really nice of them. I would have even been happy with level 10 or 15 but 5 is awesome. You can get level 5 on all 3 races in one night vs. the AI and have fun without needing to 'rush, drop, repeat'.
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Oh neat. Guess I can actually play Starcraft again! Already have level 5+ across the board ^_^.
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On February 01 2013 05:26 Kambing wrote: Oh neat. Guess I can actually play Starcraft again! Already have level 5+ across the board ^_^.
I would have thought a 1000th post would have been a bit more epic!
Congrats!
This change is nice though, I do not have to 4v4 bot anymore, and can go back to laddering!
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Can anyone with a US account ask if lvl5 with all three races is enough for the feat of strength as well? If I read between the lines it seems that way, but would like to be sure.
Can't write in the thread since I'm EU. us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7788739133
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This is a great idea and I'll certainly do it. :D
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On February 01 2013 05:34 doul wrote: Can anyone with a US account ask if lvl5 with all three races is enough for the feat of strength as well? If I read between the lines it seems that way, but would like to be sure.
Can't write in the thread since I'm EU. us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7788739133
Yes, level 5 unlocks the race portrait and the FoS. I'm not sure if they will have a FoS for each race like Diablo 3 had for each class but getting all 3 to level 5 will provide you with the full exclusive beta rewards.
Yea, that's what we've been discussing. Great call on their part due to this last 'incident'. I have to say, I'm glad it happened since it cut the grind from 60+ hours down to about 3. I don't know how much leveling/xp testing they will get from this but I'm sure many others playing ladder is the better pace since those grinding vs. AI will not be the same as leveling via ladder.
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On February 01 2013 05:28 Isaac wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 05:26 Kambing wrote: Oh neat. Guess I can actually play Starcraft again! Already have level 5+ across the board ^_^. I would have thought a 1000th post would have been a bit more epic! Congrats! This change is nice though, I do not have to 4v4 bot anymore, and can go back to laddering!
Wait what? Oh shit. =(
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On February 01 2013 05:59 Kambing wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 05:28 Isaac wrote:On February 01 2013 05:26 Kambing wrote: Oh neat. Guess I can actually play Starcraft again! Already have level 5+ across the board ^_^. I would have thought a 1000th post would have been a bit more epic! Congrats! This change is nice though, I do not have to 4v4 bot anymore, and can go back to laddering! Wait what? Oh shit. =(
Quickly, go back and edit something awesome into it.
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On February 01 2013 05:34 doul wrote: Can anyone with a US account ask if lvl5 with all three races is enough for the feat of strength as well? If I read between the lines it seems that way, but would like to be sure.
Can't write in the thread since I'm EU. us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7788739133
I am pretty sure it is for all server since there is only one beta server so problems effecting EU/KR would have effected NA as well.
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On February 01 2013 05:59 DrSeRRoD wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 05:34 doul wrote: Can anyone with a US account ask if lvl5 with all three races is enough for the feat of strength as well? If I read between the lines it seems that way, but would like to be sure.
Can't write in the thread since I'm EU. us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7788739133 Yes, his announcement says the requirements for the FoS and the race portraits is now level 5. "As a result of the leveling issues that several players experienced shortly after beta patch 2.0.3 was released, we have decided to lower the leveling requirement for the Feat of Strength and portraits announced in the Call to Action: Heart of the Swarm Beta Leveling blog."
Yeah, but in the sentence after that he says "For each faction you manage to raise to level 5, you'll receive an exclusive character portrait specific to that race when Heart of the Swarm is released on March 12, 2013.". Nothing about the FoS. Thought it was a bit unclear is all, would hate to miss out on the FoS seeing as I don't have that many levels left and didn't lose much XP.
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Level 5 seems a bit too low for me. Everyone in the beta now can get the FoS without any special effort. On the other hand, this decision by Blizzard saves me a lot of time as well.
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It might not be the one that you get for reaching lvl 30 though. EDIT: nvm I guess I wasted a few days worth of grinding and (after they dropped me back to lvl 5 for each race) re-grinding. I'm gonna keep playing the beta anyway since it's so much fun.
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On February 01 2013 06:08 doul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 05:59 DrSeRRoD wrote:On February 01 2013 05:34 doul wrote: Can anyone with a US account ask if lvl5 with all three races is enough for the feat of strength as well? If I read between the lines it seems that way, but would like to be sure.
Can't write in the thread since I'm EU. us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7788739133 Yes, his announcement says the requirements for the FoS and the race portraits is now level 5. "As a result of the leveling issues that several players experienced shortly after beta patch 2.0.3 was released, we have decided to lower the leveling requirement for the Feat of Strength and portraits announced in the Call to Action: Heart of the Swarm Beta Leveling blog." Yeah, but in the sentence after that he says " For each faction you manage to raise to level 5, you'll receive an exclusive character portrait specific to that race when Heart of the Swarm is released on March 12, 2013.". Nothing about the FoS. Thought it was a bit unclear is all, would hate to miss out on the FoS seeing as I don't have that many levels left and didn't lose much XP.
Because there are not 3 FoSs, only one and it is not bound to any specific race, just 'Helped out in HoTS Beta' or something along those lines.
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Cool move by Blizzard. I say level 5 is good.
Making it level 30 and making it take like 30-40+ hours per level 30 (I'm only level 12 I think on Terran, 5 on Toss and Zerg), so about 120-140+ hours total is too much for some people IMO.
It would be okay if there was no time limit but a month to play 120-140+ hours is actually a lot (and it's 120-140+ hours if you grind out against the AI, making 50k exp per 20 mins; If you play normally, you'll likely get half the amount).
Overall, glad it was reduced to level 5. Cool move by Blizzard.
Edit - Also are any of the animations or skins unlocked by leveling? I checked someone with level 30 on a race and I checked their skins and animations, and they have none of them unlocked.
The dances are okay but they should add the HotS viking landing animation as a reward. Or maybe just make it built into the game (I don't think Vikings being able to move and land, while keep their momentum and then making a cool slide, would be OP at all >.>).
I'd do that every game for sure (when I'm winning of course).
Edit 2 - About the FoS and stuff, since the requirement is so low, I say everyone should get all three races to level 5, even if they just only one race portrait. It's nice to have the collection. About there being only 1 FoS or 3? I think it might be like Diablo III promo where you get 1 FoS for each race (I know they said only "Feat of Strength", singular, but it might be a mistake because every other Blizzard game, 1 reward is always tied with at least 1 specific achievement or specific FoS, so that means there might be actually 3 FoS from leveling 3 races to level 5).
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On February 01 2013 08:24 Goldfish wrote: Edit 2 - About the FoS and stuff, since the requirement is so low, I say everyone should get all three races to level 5, even if they just only one race portrait. It's nice to have the collection. About there being only 1 FoS or 3? I think it might be like Diablo III promo where you get 1 FoS for each race (I know they said only "Feat of Strength", singular, but it might be a mistake because every other Blizzard game, 1 reward is always tied with at least 1 specific achievement or specific FoS, so that means there might be actually 3 FoS from leveling 3 races to level 5).
The original thing was one portrait for each race you got to lvl30 and a Feat of Strength if you got all three races to lvl30. Portraits are lvl5 now, and I assume that the FoS will be for getting the portraits. Just wanted to make sure, since the blue post is a bit unclear in my opinion.
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
I think everything is clear and understandable.
1) You reach 5th level at each race 2) At game release you will have three 30lvl portraits and one FoE achievement for participating in beta.
I think they will have other 30 level portraits from the beta so these are jsut placeholders (when in release we will have completely different 30lvl portraits, because just look at portrait names), but as they said, those placeholders can be a good representation that you played the beta.
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On February 01 2013 08:39 doul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 08:24 Goldfish wrote: Edit 2 - About the FoS and stuff, since the requirement is so low, I say everyone should get all three races to level 5, even if they just only one race portrait. It's nice to have the collection. About there being only 1 FoS or 3? I think it might be like Diablo III promo where you get 1 FoS for each race (I know they said only "Feat of Strength", singular, but it might be a mistake because every other Blizzard game, 1 reward is always tied with at least 1 specific achievement or specific FoS, so that means there might be actually 3 FoS from leveling 3 races to level 5). The original thing was one portrait for each race you got to lvl30 and a Feat of Strength if you got all three races to lvl30. Portraits are lvl5 now, and I assume that the FoS will be for getting the portraits. Just wanted to make sure, since the blue post is a bit unclear in my opinion.
The blue post is 100% clear no? It leaves no doubt on what has changed.
I'm glad. I just recently started beta and though I found a decent way of getting protoss XP (75k in 20-25 mins), I wasn't looking forward to a grind like that and then twice more.
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On February 01 2013 08:48 Mastermyth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 08:39 doul wrote:On February 01 2013 08:24 Goldfish wrote: Edit 2 - About the FoS and stuff, since the requirement is so low, I say everyone should get all three races to level 5, even if they just only one race portrait. It's nice to have the collection. About there being only 1 FoS or 3? I think it might be like Diablo III promo where you get 1 FoS for each race (I know they said only "Feat of Strength", singular, but it might be a mistake because every other Blizzard game, 1 reward is always tied with at least 1 specific achievement or specific FoS, so that means there might be actually 3 FoS from leveling 3 races to level 5). The original thing was one portrait for each race you got to lvl30 and a Feat of Strength if you got all three races to lvl30. Portraits are lvl5 now, and I assume that the FoS will be for getting the portraits. Just wanted to make sure, since the blue post is a bit unclear in my opinion. The blue post is 100% clear no? It leaves no doubt on what has changed. I'm glad. I just recently started beta and though I found a decent way of getting protoss XP (75k in 20-25 mins), I wasn't looking forward to a grind like that and then twice more.
It's not 100% clear to me, no. It's not completely unclear and I do believe that lvl5 with all three races will be enough for portaits and FoS. Anyway, I can break it down to show my point.
Aldrexus: As a result of the leveling issues that several players experienced shortly after beta patch 2.0.3 was released, we have decided to lower the leveling requirement for the Feat of Strength and portraits announced in the Call to Action: Heart of the Swarm Beta Leveling blog. Here, both the portraits and the FoS is mention and it's stated that the leveling requirement has been lowered.
Aldrexus: For each faction you manage to raise to level 5, you'll receive an exclusive character portrait specific to that race when Heart of the Swarm is released on March 12, 2013. Please note that even though these rewards are still tied to level 30 in the beta, each faction reward will be assigned to your permanent account when Swarm is released if you reach level 5, in the beta, with that faction. In the following sentences, where the actual level requirements are given, the FoS isn't mentioned. This got me a bit worried. As said, I do assume that the FoS will be handed out along with the portraits for getting lvl5 with all three races. I just got a bit uncertain due to not mentioning the FoS in the latter part of the post. Getting bigger than it originally was now, I just wanted to doublecheck and the EU forums are pretty dead when it comes to blue posts.
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Haha, well damn good thing I didn't spend most of my days this week grinding it out. Still props and thanks to you guys who did get to level 30 and were kind enough to share strategies.
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Great. Freaking. News. :D
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Despite the knock-down of xp from a lot of people (myself included), everything seems to have panned out fairly well. Level 5 is a pretty alright number for those looking only to get the portraits/FoS, and even better the "Call to Action" helped bring this bug to everyone's attention. Seeing how distraught some people were because of the experience rollback (the overly dramatic, "I cancelled my pre-order, gg blizz can't make a game" sort) its definitely good that the leveling system is getting this sort of attention and with any luck can be nicely tuned and refined by March!
As for me, the grind for portraits is over, but the beta still awaits. I really look forward to the last month and a half we have to test and get the game ready for launch. It's been pretty great so far, so here's to the final stretch!
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haha what a luck i saw this, i was on my to start farming!
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I'm a level 27 Protoss, but I don't have the portrait. Anyone know whats up? Isn't it supposed to be level 5 now?
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On February 02 2013 10:46 !Frost! wrote: I'm a level 27 Protoss, but I don't have the portrait. Anyone know whats up? Isn't it supposed to be level 5 now?
You get the portrait (and feat of strength) on your regular account when HotS comes out. Any grinding now after level 5 is just for Beta portraits I guess
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Confirmed
Feat of Strength is now awarded (when HOTS launches March 12) if a player is Terran level 5, Zerg level 5 and Protoss level 5 (in the Beta before it closes).
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On February 02 2013 10:59 HoriZoNXI wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 10:46 !Frost! wrote: I'm a level 27 Protoss, but I don't have the portrait. Anyone know whats up? Isn't it supposed to be level 5 now? You get the portrait (and feat of strength) on your regular account when HotS comes out. Any grinding now after level 5 is just for Beta portraits I guess
Alright it seems like they would also give it to you in the beta though.
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On February 02 2013 11:20 Archerofaiur wrote: Confirmed
Feat of Strength is now awarded when a player is Terran level 5, Zerg level 5 and Protoss level 5. Where can you see it?
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On February 02 2013 11:54 Tuczniak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 11:20 Archerofaiur wrote: Confirmed
Feat of Strength is now awarded when a player is Terran level 5, Zerg level 5 and Protoss level 5. Where can you see it?
You can't see it in game.
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Russian Federation2 Posts
Yeah, HotF is appropriate title
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On February 02 2013 14:00 Lynoxis wrote: Yeah, HotF is appropriate title Not really any more. While the 90 levels in 30 days was an exhilerating challenge, it unfairly favored the unemployed :p
Puting the rewards at level 5 makes the achievements what it should be, rewards for helping test the beta. The one thing that i wish was that more people who wanted to participate in the beta could do so .
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On February 03 2013 00:07 Archerofaiur wrote:Not really any more. While the 90 levels in 30 days was an exhilerating challenge, it unfairly favored the unemployed :p Puting the rewards at level 5 makes the achievements what it should be, rewards for helping test the beta. The one thing that i wish was that more people who wanted to participate in the beta could do so . I agree that they should award people for playing the beta, but there should be something for reaching level 90. I wouldn't have the time to do so, but it would still be a nice reward to give people.
Actually, anyone who wanted to get into beta could do so. I think that most of the people got in doing amazon preorders, which were free.
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level 5 is way to low .... This way everyone has it (or everyone who was in the beta, but that's probably 50+% of people who will play hots when it comes out) .. 0 chance to be 'unique' .. How lovey! At least they should have made it a bit more challenging, like lvl 15 or 20 or something. level 5 is like 8-10 games/race?
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On February 03 2013 02:17 Juice! wrote: level 5 is way to low .... This way everyone has it (or everyone who was in the beta, but that's probably 50+% of people who will play hots when it comes out) .. 0 chance to be 'unique' .. How lovey! At least they should have made it a bit more challenging, like lvl 15 or 20 or something. level 5 is like 8-10 games/race?
you could not reach level 5 .. then u wouldnt have the portrait maybe that makes you more 'unique'
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blizzard games are like a casino, they lure you in with free food (lvl 5) then rob you at the tables (lvl 30 all 3 races)
fastest time for me is 11mins 42k exp and i screwed up and missed out on 3k exp. i dont accept forfeits from computer
just got a 40k 10min game eyy
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On February 03 2013 02:17 Juice! wrote: level 5 is way to low .... This way everyone has it (or everyone who was in the beta, but that's probably 50+% of people who will play hots when it comes out) .. 0 chance to be 'unique' .. How lovey! At least they should have made it a bit more challenging, like lvl 15 or 20 or something. level 5 is like 8-10 games/race?
Nah. Most pro players don't really care and some haven't even played HotS yet.
Also in terms of regular players, HotS beta probably does not have even half the (current) player base of WoL with level 5 on all portraits.
There's still a ton of people playing WoL on 1 region, than on HotS on global play (basically all regions access the same HotS server).
I definitely like that it's at level 5. As others said, it took way too long to get level 30 on all 3 races (120+ hours total just within a month, and that's it if you do it the optimal way with AI rather than 1v1s). Not only does it take long, it's really boring.
Now I like that I'm playing HotS just to play HotS, rather than grind it out.
Edit - There's already an incentive to play HotS over WoL since you'll have a huge edge over players who didn't try out HotS before once the game comes out (therefore more ladder points and higher rankings!).
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On February 03 2013 13:12 Goldfish wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 02:17 Juice! wrote: level 5 is way to low .... This way everyone has it (or everyone who was in the beta, but that's probably 50+% of people who will play hots when it comes out) .. 0 chance to be 'unique' .. How lovey! At least they should have made it a bit more challenging, like lvl 15 or 20 or something. level 5 is like 8-10 games/race? Nah. Most pro players don't really care and some haven't even played HotS yet. Also in terms of regular players, HotS beta probably does not have even half the (current) player base of WoL with level 5 on all portraits. There's still a ton of people playing WoL on 1 region, than on HotS on global play (basically all regions access the same HotS server). I definitely like that it's at level 5. As others said, it took way too long to get level 30 on all 3 races (120+ hours total just within a month, and that's it if you do it the optimal way with AI rather than 1v1s). Not only does it take long, it's really boring. Now I like that I'm playing HotS just to play HotS, rather than grind it out. Edit - There's already an incentive to play HotS over WoL since you'll have a huge edge over players who didn't try out HotS before once the game comes out (therefore more ladder points and higher rankings!).
I don't agree with the advantage thing. There's going to be a day1 balance patch as always. So any strats from beta are probably going to be non optimal at that point.
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On February 03 2013 13:34 Infernal_dream wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 13:12 Goldfish wrote:On February 03 2013 02:17 Juice! wrote: level 5 is way to low .... This way everyone has it (or everyone who was in the beta, but that's probably 50+% of people who will play hots when it comes out) .. 0 chance to be 'unique' .. How lovey! At least they should have made it a bit more challenging, like lvl 15 or 20 or something. level 5 is like 8-10 games/race? Nah. Most pro players don't really care and some haven't even played HotS yet. Also in terms of regular players, HotS beta probably does not have even half the (current) player base of WoL with level 5 on all portraits. There's still a ton of people playing WoL on 1 region, than on HotS on global play (basically all regions access the same HotS server). I definitely like that it's at level 5. As others said, it took way too long to get level 30 on all 3 races (120+ hours total just within a month, and that's it if you do it the optimal way with AI rather than 1v1s). Not only does it take long, it's really boring. Now I like that I'm playing HotS just to play HotS, rather than grind it out. Edit - There's already an incentive to play HotS over WoL since you'll have a huge edge over players who didn't try out HotS before once the game comes out (therefore more ladder points and higher rankings!). I don't agree with the advantage thing. There's going to be a day1 balance patch as always. So any strats from beta are probably going to be non optimal at that point.
This. There is no advantage to playing 1-2 months ahead. Sure you will be higher on the ladder in the first month, but that doesn't really matter in 3-4 months. Better people WILL be better than you and the way the metagame is developed, they will be caught up in no time. Mechanics can still be refined in WoL so the advantage for playing for playing WoL would only be for 1-2 months top.
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FYI - These rewards should now be on your account. You get 1 Feat of Strength for each race you got to level 5 (even though the FoS says 30) and the portrait that comes with it.
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WTF!!! Learning this makes me want to hang little kittens from my ceiling fan with my mouse. Why in the hell did I reach level 60 with zerg and protoss when all along I only needed to go for level 5. Level 5 IS WAYYYYYY TOO LOW! I have a full time job, and I'm a full time student with a girlfriend and I was able to achieve level 60 within 45 days. Their is no GD excuse for this. This completely destroys the accomplishment I felt for attaining these portraits. Now every damn nub and his little sister is gonna have the icons!!! Quit Reniging on your word you Bliggards #@$& @$^% @#^$ #^@%#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Didn't make it to level 30? Tough shit! But, NOOOOOO! It's the turn of the century, and now everybody gets a "TROPHY." I'm so sick of the pussification. Socialist Scum!!! You take from those who deserve it and give it to those who will waste it!
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On March 08 2013 23:41 Obamanation666 wrote: Didn't make it to level 30? Tough shit! But, NOOOOOO! It's the turn of the century, and now everybody gets a "TROPHY." I'm so sick of the pussification. Socialist Scum!!! You take from those who deserve it and give it to those who will waste it!
How does one "waste" a portrait?
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I discovered lately something strange - during beta I reached Zerg level 5, but did not touch Terran or Protoss at all (so both level 0), but I have all 3 beta portraits available in WoL. Is it only for me or anyone else noticed similar situation on his/her account?
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On March 08 2013 23:35 Obamanation666 wrote: WTF!!! Learning this makes me want to hang little kittens from my ceiling fan with my mouse. Why in the hell did I reach level 60 with zerg and protoss when all along I only needed to go for level 5. Level 5 IS WAYYYYYY TOO LOW! I have a full time job, and I'm a full time student with a girlfriend and I was able to achieve level 60 within 45 days. Their is no GD excuse for this. This completely destroys the accomplishment I felt for attaining these portraits. Now every damn nub and his little sister is gonna have the icons!!! Quit Reniging on your word you Bliggards #@$& @$^% @#^$ #^@%#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seeing this kind of overreaction puts a smile on my face. It's just portraits dude. Three uglyass portraits at that. Oh and thanks for your followup post, I'm sure Blizzard has a socialist agenda.
Maybe you were too busy joining 4v4 comp stomps to level your z and p to 60, but a number of people were experiencing leveling issues during the beta which warranted this change, as the bigass red paragraph says on the top of OP.
@Galacus With the way they worded their blog, I too thought you needed to level each race to at least 5 for the respective race's portraits. I guess they're feeling generous?
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No perfect answer to this but Blizzard made the right call. People's progress was erased and its better to give the rewards to those that didnt fully earn it than have one person who did earn it not get it.
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On March 11 2013 03:42 Galacus wrote: I discovered lately something strange - during beta I reached Zerg level 5, but did not touch Terran or Protoss at all (so both level 0), but I have all 3 beta portraits available in WoL. Is it only for me or anyone else noticed similar situation on his/her account? That's weird. I got 30 with Protoss and 5 with the other races I think, but ended up with only the Protoss portrait in WoL.
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On March 11 2013 07:01 Gfire wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 03:42 Galacus wrote: I discovered lately something strange - during beta I reached Zerg level 5, but did not touch Terran or Protoss at all (so both level 0), but I have all 3 beta portraits available in WoL. Is it only for me or anyone else noticed similar situation on his/her account? That's weird. I got 30 with Protoss and 5 with the other races I think, but ended up with only the Protoss portrait in WoL.
i would make a post in the bug forums. You should have gotten it.
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So now they're giving out these portraits for people who have reached level 5. Why don't they just give it out to everyone? Not just those in the beta.
As I've said on the first page of this thread, this is outrageously unfair. It's unfair to those who were not in the beta, it's unfair to future fans of SC2 who haven't discovered the game yet. And it's never happened before in the dozens of past Blizzard betas with the exception of D3. It was unfair then, and it's unfair now.
Why should beta players who have reached level 5 be deserving of this? They're not getting this reward for giving helpful feedback. Not for being good at the game. But for simply being in the beta and being given the privilege to play a free and unreleased game. They don't deserve it. But what's worse is that now no one else can get these portraits.
Completely unfair. Remove the portraits or give it to every player.
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On March 11 2013 13:49 paralleluniverse wrote:So now they're giving out these portraits for people who have reached level 5. Why don't they just give it out to everyone? Not just those in the beta. As I've said on the first page of this thread, this is outrageously unfair. It's unfair to those who were not in the beta, it's unfair to future fans of SC2 who haven't discovered the game yet. And it's never happened before in the dozens of past Blizzard betas with the exception of D3. It was unfair then, and it's unfair now. Why should beta players who have reached level 5 be deserving of this? They're not getting this reward for giving helpful feedback. Not for being good at the game. But for simply being in the beta and being given the privilege to play a free and unreleased game. They don't deserve it. But what's worse is that now no one else can get these portraits. Completely unfair. Remove the portraits or give it to every player.
Please stop this fucking crying. I can't believe you're back and that you're legitimately complaining about this. Every game does this. Every game has little pictures or avatars or random things in game for those people who participate in beta/alpha go to cons or buy deluxe or what have you. It changes nothing in the game. It's a fucking avatar. I've never seen someone so against something that doesn't actually affect anything in my entire life. Why do I get a special ultra becuase I bought deluxe, that's unfair. What if people couldn't afford deluxe? Who the fuck are you to say what people do and don't deserve. You didn't make the game, you seem to want a carebear world where everyone wins. Guess what, we don't live in that. Some people get more than others, deal with it.
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whose fault is it you didn't play in the beta? all you had to do was reserve a copy and you were given a key.. silly...
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On March 11 2013 13:54 Infernal_dream wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 13:49 paralleluniverse wrote:So now they're giving out these portraits for people who have reached level 5. Why don't they just give it out to everyone? Not just those in the beta. As I've said on the first page of this thread, this is outrageously unfair. It's unfair to those who were not in the beta, it's unfair to future fans of SC2 who haven't discovered the game yet. And it's never happened before in the dozens of past Blizzard betas with the exception of D3. It was unfair then, and it's unfair now. Why should beta players who have reached level 5 be deserving of this? They're not getting this reward for giving helpful feedback. Not for being good at the game. But for simply being in the beta and being given the privilege to play a free and unreleased game. They don't deserve it. But what's worse is that now no one else can get these portraits. Completely unfair. Remove the portraits or give it to every player. Please stop this fucking crying. I can't believe you're back and that you're legitimately complaining about this. Every game does this. Every game has little pictures or avatars or random things in game for those people who participate in beta/alpha go to cons or buy deluxe or what have you. It changes nothing in the game. It's a fucking avatar. I've never seen someone so against something that doesn't actually affect anything in my entire life. Why do I get a special ultra becuase I bought deluxe, that's unfair. What if people couldn't afford deluxe? Who the fuck are you to say what people do and don't deserve. You didn't make the game, you seem to want a carebear world where everyone wins. Guess what, we don't live in that. Some people get more than others, deal with it.
You need to relax. Your argument completely falls apart on a lot of levels. Why do you get a special Ultra for getting the deluxe? Because you paid for it. If people couldn't afford it is their own business. I understand it is just an avatar, but I guess if someone is a portrait farmer they would be a little ticked that there is something they can't get because they weren't invited to the beta.
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On March 11 2013 13:54 Infernal_dream wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 13:49 paralleluniverse wrote:So now they're giving out these portraits for people who have reached level 5. Why don't they just give it out to everyone? Not just those in the beta. As I've said on the first page of this thread, this is outrageously unfair. It's unfair to those who were not in the beta, it's unfair to future fans of SC2 who haven't discovered the game yet. And it's never happened before in the dozens of past Blizzard betas with the exception of D3. It was unfair then, and it's unfair now. Why should beta players who have reached level 5 be deserving of this? They're not getting this reward for giving helpful feedback. Not for being good at the game. But for simply being in the beta and being given the privilege to play a free and unreleased game. They don't deserve it. But what's worse is that now no one else can get these portraits. Completely unfair. Remove the portraits or give it to every player. Please stop this fucking crying. I can't believe you're back and that you're legitimately complaining about this. Every game does this. Every game has little pictures or avatars or random things in game for those people who participate in beta/alpha go to cons or buy deluxe or what have you. It changes nothing in the game. It's a fucking avatar. I've never seen someone so against something that doesn't actually affect anything in my entire life. Why do I get a special ultra becuase I bought deluxe, that's unfair. What if people couldn't afford deluxe? Who the fuck are you to say what people do and don't deserve. You didn't make the game, you seem to want a carebear world where everyone wins. Guess what, we don't live in that. Some people get more than others, deal with it. Every game? What about D1, D2, D2:LoD, SC1, SC1:BW WC2, WC3, WC3:TFT, WoW, TBC, WotLK, MoP, SC2:WoL?
By every game, you're excluding all these games?
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