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Godwrath
Spain10121 Posts
On January 10 2013 09:54 syroz wrote: I dont know why. Early siege tank is both good for attack (timing push) and defense (fe). And reaper are harmless now. Back on WoL. I am speaking about the reapers. Early siege tank does not have anything to do with TvT because most players get it at the same time anyways. It is for TvP and to a lesser extent TvZ. | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
David and dustin seem to have the wrong idea entirely for how this game should become. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
:-( | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On January 10 2013 09:58 Markwerf wrote: 1 great patch this beta, rest all pretty much crap. David and dustin seem to have the wrong idea entirely for how this game should become. You should go play the game and show them how wrong they are by breaking it. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10324 Posts
Anyways, i LOVE these changes, blizzard always manages to address things in ways no one ever thinks of (maybe a slight exaggeration, but i haven't seen anyone suggest removing siege mode). Also, Hellbat buff is INSANE. And why are people calling this a nerf...? it is ridiculously buffed ;O | ||
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FutureBreedMachine
Australia95 Posts
On January 10 2013 08:09 Insoleet wrote: Actually mech was having a lot of troubles against early all ins (blink stalkers...) and wasnt able to pressure the protoss due to early detection and PF Nexus. Guess it's not the case anymore. That is SO true. However 1-1-1 is still more powerful than ever. 1 Base is the heart of sc2 | ||
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bankobauss
204 Posts
now that vortex is gone, couldnt they like give the mothership a 3.5 speed and acceleration or something, since now super fast vortexes wont be so imba | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1092 Posts
On January 10 2013 10:01 FutureBreedMachine wrote: That is SO true. However 1-1-1 is still more powerful than ever. 1 Base is the heart of sc2 I'm not really sure this is the case for hots, after thinking about it, the mscore will allow the p to expand off a gate and go into stargate, using gateways and phonex to deal with the T army and the nexus cannon to deal dmg... I'm not sure if this would work, but I wana try it out | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
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captainwaffles
United States1050 Posts
This patch is really fucking cool. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
read the responses of the other people who replied to ur post | ||
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
On January 10 2013 10:04 bankobauss wrote: just realized something. now that vortex is gone, couldnt they like give the mothership a 3.5 speed and acceleration or something, since now super fast vortexes wont be so imba Well the new Vortex was useless as it targeted one unit. I Hope the Mothership has a bigger Timewarp radius would only make sense. | ||
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Spyridon
United States997 Posts
On January 10 2013 09:33 Gretorp wrote: hey guys put my thoughts here: <snip> .... Thanks for a real thought out opinion without all the sensationalist complaining! I really wish more people would stop the "end of the world" mentality and think more logically about the changes, and wait until trying them out a bit before judging if a match-up is "ruined" or not. And this is coming from a Zerg player who likely has more to worry about than any other race from these changes lol. Only somewhat "iffy" change is the Reapers, it's hard to judge those sort of changes without playing. No tech lab and free movement speed is something that needs to be tested before judging. About the damage change, let's be honest, it was kind of insane how fast they could ravage a mineral line for how easy they could get in compared to the other races units, so a change in roles is probably for the better of the game. But it's obvious this is only the beginning of more Reaper changes, not only from what was changed but also from what was implied by David in the thoughts. Remember, it's more important to have a fundamental role for a unit in beta, because the combat statistics can be tweaked with just statistic number changes later on and be brought up to par. That's far better off than Zerg was in WoL, where they are still lacking many fundamentals of other races through the entire lifetime of the game, and had to be overbalanced statistically in certain ways to make up for it. | ||
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Hylirion
Netherlands968 Posts
 Seems strange. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On January 10 2013 10:13 Spyridon wrote: Thanks for a real thought out opinion without all the sensationalist complaining! I really wish more people would stop the "end of the world" mentality and think more logically about the changes, and wait until trying them out a bit before judging if a match-up is "ruined" or not. And this is coming from a Zerg player who likely has more to worry about than any other race from these changes lol. Only somewhat "iffy" change is the Reapers, it's hard to judge those sort of changes without playing. No tech lab and free movement speed is something that needs to be tested before judging. About the damage change, let's be honest, it was kind of insane how fast they could ravage a mineral line for how easy they could get in compared to the other races units, so a change in roles is probably for the better of the game. But it's obvious this is only the beginning of more Reaper changes, not only from what was changed but also from what was implied by David in the thoughts. Remember, it's more important to have a fundamental role for a unit in beta, because the combat statistics can be tweaked with just statistic number changes later on and be brought up to par. That's far better off than Zerg was in WoL, where they are still lacking many fundamentals of other races through the entire lifetime of the game, and had to be overbalanced statistically in certain ways to make up for it. Zerg has more to worry about now? Uhh no. Protoss does. No MSC detection is horrible. No seige requirement, meaning earlier 1/1/1 timings which are inevitably going to come are going to destroy us. | ||
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Sajaki
Canada1135 Posts
Wait, there's a shot delay? Was this in WOL? | ||
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Incanus
Canada695 Posts
On January 10 2013 07:13 Iodem wrote: Siege Tank Siege Tanks no longer require an upgrade in order to enter Siege Mode. GG RIP. User was warned for this post | ||
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dynwar7
1983 Posts
I was really happy to see siege tanks buffed, though it was only entering siege mode without research. BUT WHY WOULD YOU NERF CADUCEUS REACTOR BLIZZARD.. ....... I am a bio player, so happy to see bio have a chance in late game......the Ignite afterburners is great, but without the added healing power in late game bio will be super fragile.... Us terrans....we cannot be happy for too long.....as soon as we are happy, blizz realizes it and makes us unhappy again..... | ||
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