EPTOn January 10 2013 08:12 Mecto wrote:
THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT WHOLE TIME GUYS.
THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT WHOLE TIME GUYS.
Yeah and it resets the whole meta, too bad you can't wrap your mind around it.
Beta Balance Update #11 (Jan 9, 2013) - Page 12
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
Yeah and it resets the whole meta, too bad you can't wrap your mind around it. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
Tank change is not such a great idea, it will make all-in play stronger while not addressing the real problem, which is that siege mode simply doesn't hit Protoss units hard enough. Hellbats might be Blizzard's answer to that problem. That kind of damage output will annihilate zealots and help maintain space between your army and the Protoss, and though it doesn't help vs immortals it could help vs archons. Reduced splash is kinda wtf. Returning splash to seeker missile is good, but I don't expect the energy requirement to stay at 75 long. Not too thrilled about the caduceus nerf, would've rather seen Blizzard play with the numbers than straight remove the heal bonus. | ||
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ChewSenTv
United States99 Posts
On January 10 2013 08:12 Insoleet wrote: Vortex was a boring spell and that's good news that they removed it. They should just nerf the fungle so that you cant be chainfungled anymore and protoss wont need vortex anymore. I like where you are coming from on Fungle but they will not nerf Fungle to where it doesn't stop you complete. If they made it like a slow and did little damage over time that would be fine. Blizzard will not do this though | ||
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Censured
Czech Republic1060 Posts
The new hellbat is terrible idea, its basically terran roach now, and with medivacs it will be pretty strong imo. Loved the way they were before. Reaper is now a weaker marine with better mobility? Bad change imo. No need to research siege mod? Hooray for even more timing pushes And the medivac... loved the upgrade the way it was before, I mean come on, its as high in tech tree as BCs.... now its just another redundant upgrade in terran book. The only things I like about this patch are the new seeker missiles and envision / time warp ability switch. | ||
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nooboon
2602 Posts
"Siege Tank This change should mainly affect TvP, so that teching to mech is easier. That explanation is just....I don't know what to say. It feels like blizzard is just forcing the issue at hand and barely trying to fix it. | ||
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
On January 10 2013 07:48 Exarl25 wrote: You are vastly overstating the effects of 100/100 resources being freed up. Opening mech is not a nightmare, it's actually fairly powerful in the early mid game before Protoss have the time and money to get all the tools out to deal with it. That's why the 1/1/1 was so effective for so long. The longer the game goes on the less effective it is, a late game Protoss army just shits all over mech and this will not change that. Not saying you're wrong, but people said the same about the queen/OL buffs, and look how much of a difference that made for zergs and their lategame. | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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ChewSenTv
United States99 Posts
On January 10 2013 08:13 Bagi wrote: Yeah and it resets the whole meta, too bad you can't wrap your mind around it. I can wrap my head around it and it is complete garbage. By making siege already on tanks, they just made 1-1-1 amazingly good now. | ||
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EvanC
Canada130 Posts
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
That tank buff is gonna make for some nasty all-ins in PvT but still not fix mech. All it will do is make 1/1/1s viable again. I imagine I will be getting hit with lots of weird cheeses on the beta tonight. | ||
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FS_SlimJim
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Gator
United States3432 Posts
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Cassalina
United States65 Posts
the toss MSC/Oracle swap was a really good change though. raven change was also a + the tank change - just dumb and is going to revolutionize terran vs terran even moreso. meh. | ||
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Sunfish
Austria162 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On January 10 2013 08:04 Fate91 wrote: Have you brought tempest into a corrupter broodlord infestor fight? the dps is so crap that they are useless, trust me i have tried many times with tempest and they are completely useless You weren't using them right then. Tempests do 80 damage and 2 shot broodlords. You should learn how to incorporate tempests in your army and use them correctly instead of complaining that mass mass tempest doesn't beat bl/corr/infestor. Most zergs dont' even go that composition anymore because if the toss is smart and gets a few tempests with templar/colossi it will crush that composition. Also air toss is the strongest late game army and CRUSHES late game pvz. If you can get the composition of voidray/tempest/templar you win. | ||
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
On January 10 2013 08:15 Fate91 wrote: I can wrap my head around it and it is complete garbage. By making siege already on tanks, they just made 1-1-1 amazingly good now. No because of the PF Nexus. | ||
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
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stinger_ro
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Sunshinewalker
Germany34 Posts
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Desertfaux
Netherlands276 Posts
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