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neversleeping
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
117 Posts
October 26 2012 22:41 GMT
#181
Servers have been back up for ~40 mins, BTW.

Couple very initial thoughts...

Wow...multiple oracles is pretty insane (servers back up) -- 3/4 in your base even for a few seconds can cause some hefty damage, though obviously they're very fragile.
Also, time warp is a much bigger radius than I guess I expected, and lasts a LONG time. Did Protoss really need more AOE zoning / etc.? time warp + forcefields mean no protoss should ever engage in a bad exchange again.


If they don't remove forcefields I honestly don't see how bio remains viable. Throwing down a stargate and getting even 1-2 oracles for a couple time warps will mean completely demolishing with a normal colossus / storm ball. Even if the slight dip into stargate tech at a certain points equates to a somewhat all-in situation, with extremely simple micro you're basically guaranteed to win the engagement.
dArkko
Profile Joined January 2012
France34 Posts
October 26 2012 22:42 GMT
#182
battle Helion need to be stimmed even if that affects only his move speed
Oracle chronoboosted = 17 sec ?

Thx... but this is an open window to imbalance
Time Warp + colossus and/or psystorm = beat anything
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
October 26 2012 22:42 GMT
#183
If they nerf Oracle's new beam, they should increase the energy cost rather than decreasing DPS. Keep it exciting.
MMA: The true King of Wings
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
October 26 2012 22:43 GMT
#184
On October 27 2012 07:42 dArkko wrote:
battle Helion need to be stimmed even if that affects only his move speed
Oracle chronoboosted = 17 sec ?

Thx... but this is an open window to imbalance
Time Warp + colossus and/or psystorm = beat anything


FYI Chronoboost does not halve build time.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
October 26 2012 22:43 GMT
#185
very disapointed terran late game is not being adressed or even talked about q.q
neversleeping
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
117 Posts
October 26 2012 22:43 GMT
#186
On October 27 2012 07:42 SarcasmMonster wrote:
If they nerf Oracle's new beam, they should increase the energy cost rather than decreasing DPS. Keep it exciting.


I agree, the DPS is potentially fine if counterweighted by enough of an EPS cost. I'm also not sure a 30-second build time is a good idea.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
October 26 2012 22:44 GMT
#187
On October 27 2012 07:42 dArkko wrote:
battle Helion need to be stimmed even if that affects only his move speed
Oracle chronoboosted = 17 sec ?

Thx... but this is an open window to imbalance
Time Warp + colossus and/or psystorm = beat anything


last time I checked, Colossi and Oracles couldn't deal with air, Templar only to a mediocre degree on their own etc. etc.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3135 Posts
October 26 2012 22:44 GMT
#188
I expect most new stuff to be slightly imba right now. I wouldn't worry about that, but whether or not it's a good idea. The new Oracle seems potentially good, but it's hard to tell. What do you guys with the beta think?
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s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
October 26 2012 22:45 GMT
#189
On October 27 2012 07:44 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 07:42 dArkko wrote:
battle Helion need to be stimmed even if that affects only his move speed
Oracle chronoboosted = 17 sec ?

Thx... but this is an open window to imbalance
Time Warp + colossus and/or psystorm = beat anything


last time I checked, Colossi and Oracles couldn't deal with air, Templar only to a mediocre degree on their own etc. etc.


And how does this matter when the ground is demolished in mere seconds ?
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 22:48:56
October 26 2012 22:46 GMT
#190
Time Warp = Temporal Wormhole rofl

Will be a fun thing to see combined with storms and forcefields.
neversleeping
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
117 Posts
October 26 2012 22:47 GMT
#191
You don't need to deal with air if you're fighting bio armies. If you're building colossi and oracles against mech you're already losing the game.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
October 26 2012 22:47 GMT
#192
So is hallucination free now, or have they not changed it?
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
styleworks79
Profile Joined May 2011
United States127 Posts
October 26 2012 22:47 GMT
#193
They need to get the right maps in the pool first. There is no real validity in tweaking units based on data off of poor maps.
Just my 02.
Ares[S2000] West Op AresClan 난 요환이가 한번은 우승할거라고 믿어!
Csquared
Profile Joined October 2012
United States2 Posts
October 26 2012 22:48 GMT
#194
Why only one thing for Terran makes terrains left out...
Kick Rocks!
GARcher
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada294 Posts
October 26 2012 22:51 GMT
#195
Currently on WhiteRa stream it's pretty much oracle/mine circlejerk.
ZvZ is like a shitty apartment: Roaches and Fungal Growth everywhere.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
October 26 2012 22:53 GMT
#196
On October 27 2012 07:51 GARcher wrote:
Currently on WhiteRa stream it's pretty much oracle/mine circlejerk.


and op?
MMA: The true King of Wings
GARcher
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada294 Posts
October 26 2012 22:54 GMT
#197
On October 27 2012 07:53 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 07:51 GARcher wrote:
Currently on WhiteRa stream it's pretty much oracle/mine circlejerk.


and op?


No. It doesn't prove any race OP. It only proves Blizzard's incompetence.
ZvZ is like a shitty apartment: Roaches and Fungal Growth everywhere.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 22:57:08
October 26 2012 22:55 GMT
#198
Just played a quick game. Hide my stargate and got up to 4 oracles really quickly... Sniped zergs third base but cost me 3 oracle of the 4 oracles(4th one in deep red.) If you time warp the ramp or path leading to the third it takes queens off creep hilariously long to get there to help support xD XD XD

It's a huge investment though(Cost me wayy more to build oracles then the cost of one hatch.) If it's scouted before the oracles are their and the zerg can put up a spore pretty much fucked....
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
October 26 2012 22:56 GMT
#199
On October 27 2012 07:54 GARcher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 07:53 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On October 27 2012 07:51 GARcher wrote:
Currently on WhiteRa stream it's pretty much oracle/mine circlejerk.


and op?


No. It doesn't prove any race OP. It only proves Blizzard's incompetence.


op?
MMA: The true King of Wings
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
October 26 2012 22:56 GMT
#200
wow oracle is op as fuck
starleague forever
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