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Do not beg for keys, offer to trade things for keys, or offer to buy keys in this thread.
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
September 05 2012 16:05 GMT
#841
I just saw a pvp where a protoss army with no anti air won against a protoss army with tempests... Colossi lasert everything down and then annihilated the base while 4 tempests shot them with their tickleballs... sad
Swwww
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Switzerland812 Posts
September 05 2012 16:06 GMT
#842
Has anyone from EU got keys yet?
"What is this TeamSupportGroup?" - mahnini.
Mr.Bimbles
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Iceland457 Posts
September 05 2012 16:07 GMT
#843
Pretty unhappy that I didn't get in :/

Have been playing the custom game version almost constantly. No invite..
"If I was your wife I would poison your coffee" "Well If I was your husband I'd drink it"
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 05 2012 16:07 GMT
#844
Do the Tempests seriously make that high-pitched screech when their shots are charged up? Holy shit that's annoying.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 05 2012 16:07 GMT
#845
yay a terran streaming on own3d, ForGG, hopefully he doesnt just mass up warhounds, and doesn't keep hellions in battle mode the whole time.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1917 Posts
September 05 2012 16:08 GMT
#846
what the hell, dustin browder?!?! ye fucked up mah game!!!
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3685 Posts
September 05 2012 16:11 GMT
#847
On September 06 2012 01:05 gruntrush wrote:
anyone streaming zerg hots right now?


twitch.tv/liquidret
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
September 05 2012 16:12 GMT
#848
On September 06 2012 01:05 gruntrush wrote:
anyone streaming zerg hots right now?

Ret is.

He just made 5 swarm host, parked them for 2 minutes in front of a protoss wall-in consisting in a core, a gateway and a forge supported by a canon. Couldn't even put life damage on any of the buildings.

It looks useless as fuck.

Also, oracle seem incredibly annoying.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
September 05 2012 16:14 GMT
#849
On September 06 2012 01:12 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 01:05 gruntrush wrote:
anyone streaming zerg hots right now?

Ret is.

He just made 5 swarm host, parked them for 2 minutes in front of a protoss wall-in consisting in a core, a gateway and a forge supported by a canon. Couldn't even put life damage on any of the buildings.

It looks useless as fuck.

Also, oracle seem incredibly annoying.


he killed one of the buildings, and the reason why he couldn't break through cause mothership core
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 05 2012 16:15 GMT
#850
What happened to the new model for the queen? I kinda liked the one in the battlereports.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
September 05 2012 16:16 GMT
#851
Haha ret is getting hit by tempest from a mile away. And that oracles mineral lock is just plain stupid. Maybe if you would need to click every mineral patch, but like it is now, seems really lame
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 05 2012 16:16 GMT
#852
Okay now I've watched a few games of HOTS


Seems like every single terran spams warhound/hellion and goes mech and I haven't seen them yet lose doing that o_O Hmm so... Is this the comeback of the 1 supply roaches? Or maybe I'm just missing something, like something airbourne would probably be a good idea.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Cainam
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States421 Posts
September 05 2012 16:16 GMT
#853
Jesus people it has been like a day. The pessimism is outrageous. Give it some time. The game is going to change drastically before release. Instead of being a bunch of negative little bitches on TL you should send Blizzard some constructive criticism.
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 16:19:38
September 05 2012 16:19 GMT
#854
lol sjow is going pure warhound in every mu
attackmoveftw
Profile Joined August 2012
45 Posts
September 05 2012 16:19 GMT
#855
Next time Dustin Browder claims he takes progamer feedback, the interviewer should ask for names.
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 16:23:01
September 05 2012 16:21 GMT
#856
Terran doesn't feel like Terran... Terran is supposed to be a race of hard to control glass cannons... Not giant unkillable death squirt gunners. The marauder was bad enough, but now Terran just feels like small engagement efficient Protoss...

Zerg feels infinitely better simply because you don't have to default to roaches or ling/infestor. I like how getting hydras early feels like a long term investment on some level :-)

Protoss... is the same? It really feels that way. Paying for a SG and 200 gas for the Oracle actually makes it feel IDENTICAL to the VR other than that it can actually deal some econ damage. It works in the exact same way as getting 2 VR's to take map control and defend against some rushes, except that it doesn't defend with attacking, it defends with cloaking. Tempests... I don't even know... like 4 stimmed marines make a Tempest crumble like tissue paper.
A time to live.
1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
September 05 2012 16:26 GMT
#857
My review of Beta after day 1, as protoss:

Cons:
-Tempests suck. If somehow you can get them in masse by surprise, they're okay, but still worse than carriers by a large margin. In fact, the 1.5 change to carriers was really nice and carriers had almost made it, Tempests are such a large step back.

-Warhounds. Marine/warhound pushes are absurdley powerful, and for the cost, warhounds are so good with bio marine heavy armies. As a timing push, it appears to just strengthen terran's strongest time in the game, while doing nothing late-game.

Pros:
-Oracle. It's not imba, but it's pretty fun to use, and it should really, really, really help PvP. Like this unit alone may actually solve all the rock paper scissor issues. It's also very useful to scout your opponents base with. Entombed is actually only okay compared to it's other abilities, it's a bit pricey and fragile to risk on just entombed.
Mothership Core. Recall rocks. Everything else on it is useless as far as I can tell, but ~10 minute pressure timings vs T and Z that you can safely get out of are so good. Seriously, you can go a 2 rangeless collossi pressure, show up, do some damage and leave. Or if the terran was being more aggressive than you thought, just leave and defend. By far the most powerful ability added to toss.

-Widow Mines are interesting. They do literally nothing on mineral lines, I got 3x mines dropped on a line, didn't react just to see what would happen, and lost 6 out of 20 probes. Plus reacting is pretty easy. However, they did completely shut down DT harass when coupled with turrets. I think this may be the most interesting unit that will be great to watch in the distant future when people go crazy with them.

-UI Changes. They actually are all pretty nice, none of them seem to lower the skill ceiling. The only bad one is an option on by default that makes enemy units unselectable.

-Side Note: Was pretty funny to be placed into a league with Stephano, Idra, & Vibe. A gold league. Sure, it's because there is population yet in the ladder, etc, but still funny to be placed in the most brutal gold league ever.
Manager, Team RIP ZeeZ
Avicularia
Profile Joined February 2012
540 Posts
September 05 2012 16:27 GMT
#858
On September 06 2012 01:21 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Tempests... I don't even know... like 4 stimmed marines make a Tempest crumble like tissue paper.

Stimmed what?
XXXSmOke
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1333 Posts
September 05 2012 16:28 GMT
#859
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=360325

Damn, he was so right about mech from what every single Terran was doing last night.

Lets not lose our cool to much though guys, there are these things called patches, remember 1 supply roaches?
Emperor? Boxer disapproves. He's building bunkers at your mom's house even as you're reading this.
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
September 05 2012 16:30 GMT
#860
Entomb is like chronoboost, but for both players. It's something both do every X minutes. Nothing special, no wow factor, it's like putting workers on gas or making supply depots.
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