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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
Or were only some elements of BW retconned, and Fenix still died? | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
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Hulavuta
United States1252 Posts
On February 18 2012 06:12 aZealot wrote: I have a question about this. I thought BW was retconned - does this mean that Fenix is still alive? Or were only some elements of BW retconned, and Fenix still died? the only thing that was retconned were that the Overmind is now a good guy and Kerrigan actually IS mad at Mengsk and doesn't like being infested. Either way, it's not just Fenix. Nobody even says "En Taro Adun" anymore (except the Immortals). | ||
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TheStonerer
Canada278 Posts
if you read at the end, he will supposedly be talked about in heart of the swarm, according to the blizzcon lore panel. | ||
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Telenil
France484 Posts
That's partly what was so memorable in Fenix's death. If a beloved character can die, you suddenly care a lot more about the fate of the others. On February 18 2012 02:07 TheToast wrote: frankly I think Chris Metzen is not a very good writer and has also gotten pretty lazy (like come on, the WC3 RoC plot was exactly the same as the SC1 plot). I lost all faith in Blizzard to produce a good single player campaign long ago, TFT was just as bad/boring as SC2. I totally disagree with that. There is no equivalent to the orcs or the blood elves in SC1, the terran worlds weren't crushed the way Lordaeron was, there was no "brave idealist that turns out to be a power-hungry jerk" in Warcraft 3. Even the alliance between Raynor's Raiders and the Protoss was secondary to the plot, whereas it was the culmination of Reign of Chaos. You didn't have silly plot holes like "Tychus worked for Mengsk but was the one who piloted the superweapon in Media Blitz". And it didn't end with the hero carrying his naked girlfriend towards the sunset. I could go on for a while. You do have a good character that turns evil, a civil war between a former human/elf and bad guys to control the brainless race, with the former human eventually betraying her allies. But that doesn't make the plot "exactly the same". | ||
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Demonhunter04
1530 Posts
Lol I remember Fenix saying "You might find that I'm not an easy foe to defeat" or something like that and I checked his stats and he was 800/800 with 60 dmg attacks and at first I was like wow wth and then I just used spawn broodling to instakill him...yeah definitely not easy *rolleyes*. | ||
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MHT
Sweden1026 Posts
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Tamburlaine
Canada288 Posts
On February 18 2012 05:30 GlintFox wrote: He died in broodwar bro. And once you die as a dragoon theres no coming back, same with a stalker and an immortal. Since you cannot "whoosh back to base like zealots, dt's, and high templars do". He's still the most badass and best protoss warrior though  Tassadar died in vanilla SC, yet his ghost is still mighty chipper. Stukov died in Brood War, yet they keep talking about bringing him back. Just because they have not established the mechanism by which he may return does not mean that he can not return. The will of a writer is far more powerful than any spawn broodling. That said, dude didn't even get a mention in Wings. So yeah, he might be gone for good. | ||
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Witten
United States2094 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
On February 18 2012 06:34 DeepElemBlues wrote: As far as we know Fenix is dead with a capital D, but for one I really hope that some Protoss swooped down and saved him after his goon popped and he's in a stasis chamber and will come back as an Immortal for LotV. I dont really hope for that once you die twice that should be it. | ||
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GlintFox
United States275 Posts
On February 18 2012 05:54 Noocta wrote: There's no protoss soul in a Stalker. They're robots controled by the mind of a Dark Templar. This is what it says on the wiki, "While dragoons were piloted by crippled protoss, the stalker is controlled by the shadow-essence of a Dark Templar warrior fused into a metal body" Doesnt that mean they sort of fuse their soul into the stalker? | ||
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Garson
Sweden203 Posts
there was no "brave idealist that turns out to be a power-hungry jerk" . Illidan Stormrage or Arthas Menethil anyone? | ||
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TeTrodoToxIn
United States18 Posts
Both were fairly important in the story-line. You think that Korhol would have a memorial statue or something to him at least. | ||
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SnowSC2
United States678 Posts
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Telenil
France484 Posts
On February 18 2012 14:51 Garson wrote: Arthas doesn't act out of ambition (not before he picked Frostmourne anyway), and Illidan has never been an idealist. Sylvanas may be comparable to Kerrigan, but Arthas and Illidan are certainly not like Arcturus.Illidan Stormrage or Arthas Menethil anyone? | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
But fenix was just an edmund duke class character ... sidekick thats all. And its probably not a good idea to bring him up, if raynor is supposed to save sarah. So while i understand the love for him, he was just someone to chat with for the story line. But yeah making kerrigan a path to kill aldaris ... and later having to kill fenix too ... (hate the coward duke) sure was mean. Games where heroes can die are quiet refreshing though and in blizzard games no one is save. Not even Lothar ;_; (took me 12 tries to keep him alive till the end of the game and then he is dead anyway ;_; the old warcraft 1 hero) | ||
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BreakfastBurrito
United States893 Posts
question though, is artanis still alive and flying around in his super scout? he was the newest praetor after all...? what i miss about BW, is how much you accomplish in a campaign. The scope really was epic, I loved it in spite of the fact that the gameplay part of almost every mission was quite similar  (but challenging!) Idk, WoL wasn't that great, hope HotS is better:l | ||
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
On February 18 2012 06:12 aZealot wrote: I have a question about this. I thought BW was retconned - does this mean that Fenix is still alive? Or were only some elements of BW retconned, and Fenix still died? fenix was killed by kerrigan's forces, no retcon | ||
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HuggyBear
Australia377 Posts
Unless Mengsk has been hiding him in an underground fish tank for the past 10 years | ||
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