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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
March 23 2011 16:42 GMT
#81
What? and he shoots no zerg in the cinematics or anything?
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staplestf2
Profile Joined January 2011
United States147 Posts
March 23 2011 18:00 GMT
#82
On March 23 2011 10:17 Lexpar wrote:
We're all idiots. It took us half a year to realize the one cool thing about SC2's story.


so not everyone got this the first time they saw it? cool i guess that makes be super observant or something.
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vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
March 23 2011 18:35 GMT
#83
I noticed the gun with 1 bullet but it didn't click that he had to use in on Tychus, nice find!
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KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
March 23 2011 19:20 GMT
#84
i don't see why he couldn't have had a fully loaded handgun. no shame in having to take more than 1 shot.
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
March 23 2011 23:02 GMT
#85
On March 24 2011 04:20 KillerPlague wrote:
i don't see why he couldn't have had a fully loaded handgun. no shame in having to take more than 1 shot.

Just start unloading a full magazined gauss into Mengsk xD
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emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 23:22:36
March 23 2011 23:22 GMT
#86
I actually thought it was for kerrigan, because from what I remember, he never intended to kill mengsk first, he just wanted to tarnish his name and perhaps save him for later. I could be wrong but often in cliche movies (and blizzard is being pretty cliche here) sometimes the hero wants the villian to live with his shame because it's worse than dieing.
nitdkim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1264 Posts
March 23 2011 23:36 GMT
#87
Very similar to Pirates of the Caribbean...
Jack Sparrow and Jim Raynor has many similarities. I guess there is a Protagonist 101 class that all the writers attended in College.
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Obsolescence
Profile Joined August 2010
United States270 Posts
March 24 2011 00:46 GMT
#88
Tychus is dead for sure, but not gone...

I don't think there was any symbolism in the way Raynor used his bullet. He knew he couldn't bring a rifle to bear on Tychus in time. He used that bullet at that time in that situation because it was necessary. Clearly, he was saving it for Mengsk. That's why he drops his rifle and draws his pistol when he enter's Valarian's chamber.

Tychus definitely hesitated on purpose, but I don't think it was from some sense of self-sacrifice. I think he just wanted to make sure that Jimmy wouldn't just kill him as soon as he did it. When Jimmy gave him the ambiguous test, "we all got our choices to make," he chose wrong and Jimmy did what he would have had to do if Tychus had killed Kerrigan anyway.
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Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
March 24 2011 04:20 GMT
#89
Yeah I noticed it as well when I ran through the campaign. I recall him talking about Mengsk while doing the gun stuff, so yeah.
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Patton1942
Profile Joined August 2010
United States66 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 05:11:51
March 24 2011 05:07 GMT
#90
Jimmy reaches for the gun when we first meet tycus. I had just assumed the single bullet in the gun was just poetic license to let us know that jimmy was going to kill mensk, one bullet, one target. Lets do this! type of deal
. When tycus is watching the old vids I'm almost positive that we see jimmy shooting his pistol multiple times. someone also mentioned that he shot the TV as well.

I am assuming that a soldier going into a war zone would in fact carry a fully loaded pistol.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
March 24 2011 07:57 GMT
#91
On March 23 2011 10:17 Lexpar wrote:
We're all idiots. It took us half a year to realize the one cool thing about SC2's story.

Wow. You made my day.
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Gaspa
Profile Joined February 2011
Brazil109 Posts
March 24 2011 12:37 GMT
#92
Nice find, gj.
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Obsolescence
Profile Joined August 2010
United States270 Posts
March 24 2011 13:39 GMT
#93
On March 24 2011 16:57 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 10:17 Lexpar wrote:
We're all idiots. It took us half a year to realize the one cool thing about SC2's story.

Wow. You made my day.

I can't believe that this is the first cool thing anyone could find in the story. Comments like these cause me to take the "wtf-sc2-story-sucks" community much less seriously.
It doesn't think. It doesn't feel. It doesn't laugh or cry. All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. -Phyrexian Hulk
Fateless
Profile Joined January 2011
United States99 Posts
March 24 2011 14:43 GMT
#94
On March 22 2011 07:34 Falcon-sw wrote:
Playing through the campaign again, I noticed just before boarding the Dominion flagship, Raynor checks the chambers in his handgun and there's only one bullet in there.

I assume this means he's been saving it for Mengsk, but as it's Valarian onboard, he never uses it.

Until he kills Tychus. With his handgun.

Am I right in assuming he uses the bullet meant for Mengsk on a friend? That's gotta suck.


Pretty awesome observation dude, what do you do for a living?
Falcon-sw
Profile Joined September 2010
United States324 Posts
March 24 2011 15:49 GMT
#95
On March 24 2011 23:43 Fateless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 07:34 Falcon-sw wrote:
Playing through the campaign again, I noticed just before boarding the Dominion flagship, Raynor checks the chambers in his handgun and there's only one bullet in there.

I assume this means he's been saving it for Mengsk, but as it's Valarian onboard, he never uses it.

Until he kills Tychus. With his handgun.

Am I right in assuming he uses the bullet meant for Mengsk on a friend? That's gotta suck.


Pretty awesome observation dude, what do you do for a living?


Kinda stuck between a career in print journalism and breaking into IT.

And thanks.
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j3i
Profile Joined February 2011
United States357 Posts
March 24 2011 17:07 GMT
#96
On March 23 2011 15:56 AndyBear wrote:
too bad he can't reload or anything.


yeah his gigantic marine hands wouldn't be able to... which begs the question: is his revolver regular sized or marine-useable sized? I feel like I've seen him use it with and without the suit but that would be impossible since the marine hands are much larger.
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Bhaalgorn
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia214 Posts
March 24 2011 17:49 GMT
#97
Well,if we're already talking about interesting bits in the SC2 story how about this:

Zeratul and the dark templar were able to permanently kill a cerebrate since they wielded the same cosmic energy as the Overmind . Yet Kerrigan easily regenerates her wing after Zeratul chops it off.

Does that mean she uses the same kind of energy as zealots(for example) or some other kind of psy powers?

Ghost151
Profile Joined May 2008
United States290 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 18:39:49
March 24 2011 18:33 GMT
#98
On March 22 2011 08:18 BadWithNames wrote:
I always assumed it was meant for Mengsk...or Kerrigan in the event she couldn't be saved.



I thought that events of Brood War made it pretty clear he intended to "save" Sarah with this bullet. To me it seemed that (potentially) using it on Mengsk after boarding the flagship was improvised, as Raynor had no problems dealing blows to Arcturus through his own previous methods of guerilla warfare and raiding tactics. In fact, he's doing so good at this that Mengsk was forced to use his control of the media to marginalize Raynor as much as he could by the time Wing of Liberty happens.

So in my take on the events, Raynor's choices were:

A.) Jimmy's original plan: mercy kill Kerrigan like he promised he would in the events of SC:BW, since she'd become a monster ( or out of vengeance for everything she'd done since becoming the Queen of Blades, if you saw it that way) i.e. A way to "save her"

B.) With the new info from the Prophecy, choosing to literally save her by killing Tychus instead.


Regardless of your PoV, the symbolism of one bullet in the chamber is the same: Jimmy can only act once, so he must make a choice somewhere down the line.


IMO the bullet being saved for Mengsk is not as powerful as the implications of using on Kerrigan. Everything has happened because of Mengsk treachery, yes, but Jimmy loved Sarah. The only thing that could have a stronger effect on him emotionally than Mengsk doing that to her would be seeing her become the monster that she is, and doing the things she did.

At least I think so.
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Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
March 25 2011 05:40 GMT
#99
On March 25 2011 02:49 Bhaalgorn wrote:
Well,if we're already talking about interesting bits in the SC2 story how about this:

Zeratul and the dark templar were able to permanently kill a cerebrate since they wielded the same cosmic energy as the Overmind . Yet Kerrigan easily regenerates her wing after Zeratul chops it off.

Does that mean she uses the same kind of energy as zealots(for example) or some other kind of psy powers?



I think it just means she isn't dead and zerg regenerate their injuries, especially on creep. Perhaps he would have better luck chopping her head off.
Tracedragon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States948 Posts
March 25 2011 18:12 GMT
#100
It's an interesting find, but... why would have Mengsk been on Char in the first place?
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