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Falcon-sw
Profile Joined September 2010
United States324 Posts
March 23 2011 02:04 GMT
#61
On March 23 2011 10:57 GiantEnemyCrab wrote:
tychus made it soo obvious he was gonna shoot kerrigan makes me wonder he wanted to be shot by raynor instead of dying in the suit. cuz if he did kill kerigan he was still gonna die either way. so basicallly he was a good guy all along and helped raynor get where he wanted to through megneks forces and kill himself since his work was done



I agree. Tychus clearly gave Raynor a chance to stop him. If Tychus had really wanted to kill Kerrigan, she'd be dead.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 02:25:36
March 23 2011 02:21 GMT
#62
On March 23 2011 05:21 Wezz wrote:
Personally, just having followed many of Blizz's storylines, I think the possibility of Tychus coming back is entirely feasible. Blizzard does NOT like to let characters just 'die'. Think about Warcraft 3 - Sylvannas, Arthas, (both pressing into WoW, but I'll digress) and I'm sure there's many others if I went back and inspected it..


Uther Lightbringer anyone?
Also Sylvanas and Arthas making it over to WoW was par for the course, the campaign ended with them establishing an empire in Lordaeron and becoming one with Ner´zhul respectively.

On the other hand reversing Kerrigan to human is imho a major copout. If I remember WC3 correctly Maiev also died on Dreanor while in WoW she is supposedly alive to kill Illidan.

Meh, actually I don´t like Blizzards story telling since dragonpeople and dragonflights and other dragonstuff are suddenly all important in warcraft and all over the place.
I wouldn´t put it past them(anymore) to retcon every dead person into an alive person for the sake of easier writing. Previously they actually planned who should be around longer(Mengsk was spared by Kerrigan, Fenix was put in a dragoon to showcase protosslore, Kerrigan becoming infested was actually planned by the overmind so he captured her alive).
Just to recount, they killed off Duke, Fenix, Tassadar, most cerebrates (Zasz & Daggoth I think), Stukov, DuGalle and the matron of the dark templar. That´s as far as I remember.
If anyone of them suddenly lives again, remember, you heard it here first.

Tassadar made an appearance because obviously Protoss are like Jedi now. So in my opinion they probably will as well revive Tychus to a full human being for no other reason than all other characters being completely unlikable.
For the record: He was pretty dumb, stubborn and quite an asshole, so he actually acted right on character the whole time.
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GrapeD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada679 Posts
March 23 2011 02:30 GMT
#63
I always thought that the bullet was for kerrigan, I guess since he saved kerrigan he used it on tychus as a way of killing the queen of blades and saving her.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 23 2011 03:05 GMT
#64
On March 23 2011 01:04 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 21:19 lololol wrote:
Nah, he already spent the bullet for Mengsk on his TV.

so he must've had 2 bullets in his gun to begin with, 1 for Mengsk 1 for Kerrigan just incase.


This just blew my mind....WHY DID HE HAVE 2 BULLETS TO START
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Moody512
Profile Joined December 2010
United States63 Posts
March 23 2011 03:08 GMT
#65
He probably had two bullets for one reason as a lot of people are asking this...

My assumption is this: One for Kerrigan if she can't be saved and the other for himself so he can be with her for all eternity? Sounds a lot like the old Scientific Romance as Science Fiction started out. :D

~Moody
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Chicken Chaser
Profile Joined July 2010
United States533 Posts
March 23 2011 05:10 GMT
#66
On March 22 2011 09:10 SupastaR wrote:
mind=blown


Whose? Tychus's?
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
March 23 2011 05:32 GMT
#67
this thread is gold! :D
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DarthXX
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia998 Posts
March 23 2011 06:24 GMT
#68
I cant believe no1 noticed the bullet lol. I always thought it was meant for Kerrigan
AndyBear
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada132 Posts
March 23 2011 06:56 GMT
#69
too bad he can't reload or anything.
Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
March 23 2011 08:26 GMT
#70
I find it odd though that he would land on Char without reloading.
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tenordrummer
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada36 Posts
March 23 2011 08:34 GMT
#71
he just needs to go back to the ole ammo shop......
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Zombo Joe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada850 Posts
March 23 2011 08:44 GMT
#72
His revolver is redundant when he can use the standard assault rifle that fires 50 cals.
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 09:12:43
March 23 2011 09:07 GMT
#73
On March 23 2011 11:21 Mataza wrote:
On the other hand reversing Kerrigan to human is imho a major copout. If I remember WC3 correctly Maiev also died on Dreanor while in WoW she is supposedly alive to kill Illidan.
Maiev Shadowsong did not die, the continued the hunt. Illidan is somewhere out there! Justice will be done!

On March 23 2011 11:04 Falcon-sw wrote:
I agree. Tychus clearly gave Raynor a chance to stop him. If Tychus had really wanted to kill Kerrigan, she'd be dead.
"Tychus, what have you done?" I also thought about that Tychus realized that Mensk probably would not keep his end of the bargain so he is dead anyways.

You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Arn
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden118 Posts
March 23 2011 09:43 GMT
#74
Interesting topic. My conclusion:

Jim Raynor has this "one, special", bullet saved up in his revolver. He can however use his revolver like normally, he probably doesn't "never reload it" - thus, when he shoots the TV it's obviously not the "one and only bullet". Down on char, though, he is bringing along his favourite handgun, along with the standard rifle he's been using. Maybe he plans on killing Mengsk somehow there, although I must say I can't recall it being feasible. Else he just brings it along as a token.

Now when Tychus threatens to kill Kerrigan, Jim Raynor has no choice but to use his special bullet on Tychus. A choice that might seem obvious, but the value put in that bullet makes the choice even larger to make. Could he have used his standard rifle for that? Of course not, he would never get it aiming before Tychus would have reacted and shot our Jimmy.

As for Tychus being dead or alive, I'd say he is definitly dead (or was) when Jimmy shot him. You don't just let someone shoot you on a zerg planet and let'em walk away with the dragon queen. He'd fire back.

Now as for Tychus being revived and swarmified, that's a possibility. It always is, and sometimes depends more on dramatics than realism.

Just dropping a few more thoughts:
1) Jim dropped his rifle a couple of meters before leaning down over Kerrigan. He couldn't have shot Tychus.
2) Tychus actually pulled the trigger, and Jim blocked the shot with his shoulder. Did anyone else notice this?
3) There were a few marines back there. What were they doing all along? Why would Jim take illoyal marines on this task? Couldn't they have interevened?
4) We do not actually see what happens after Jim fires, it all goes black. The assumption they want us to make is "Tychus dies, Kerrigan lives - Jim saves the day". But there could have been more argumentation after that. Maybe Tychus hesitates to fire his best friend Jim. Maybe Mengsk decides to kill his pet, Tychus, when he realizes what Jim is saying is true. Maybe Kerrigan finishes Tychus off with some crazy psionic moves. Anything goes.

Nevertheless, I say the plot is good, and the "bullet saved" just adds an extra dimension to it.
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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
March 23 2011 11:05 GMT
#75
On March 23 2011 17:44 Zombo Joe wrote:
His revolver is redundant when he can use the standard assault rifle that fires 50 cals.


They use Uranium 238 shells. lol
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lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
March 23 2011 11:37 GMT
#76
What are these outrageous claims that he can *gasp* reload his pistol?
I'm sorry, but reloading is for pussies.
Have you ever seen a Terran Marine reload?
I thought so.
I'll call Nada.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
March 23 2011 13:12 GMT
#77
On March 22 2011 09:09 .Aar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 08:24 iaguz wrote:
Yeah but he gets his gf back. Net gain imo.


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Comment of the day for me.
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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
March 23 2011 13:13 GMT
#78
On March 23 2011 11:04 Falcon-sw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 10:57 GiantEnemyCrab wrote:
tychus made it soo obvious he was gonna shoot kerrigan makes me wonder he wanted to be shot by raynor instead of dying in the suit. cuz if he did kill kerigan he was still gonna die either way. so basicallly he was a good guy all along and helped raynor get where he wanted to through megneks forces and kill himself since his work was done



I agree. Tychus clearly gave Raynor a chance to stop him. If Tychus had really wanted to kill Kerrigan, she'd be dead.


And dont forget guys that they "resurrected" Tassadar as well.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
March 23 2011 15:00 GMT
#79
On March 23 2011 22:13 DyEnasTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 11:04 Falcon-sw wrote:
On March 23 2011 10:57 GiantEnemyCrab wrote:
tychus made it soo obvious he was gonna shoot kerrigan makes me wonder he wanted to be shot by raynor instead of dying in the suit. cuz if he did kill kerigan he was still gonna die either way. so basicallly he was a good guy all along and helped raynor get where he wanted to through megneks forces and kill himself since his work was done



I agree. Tychus clearly gave Raynor a chance to stop him. If Tychus had really wanted to kill Kerrigan, she'd be dead.


And dont forget guys that they "resurrected" Tassadar as well.

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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
March 23 2011 15:30 GMT
#80
On March 24 2011 00:00 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 22:13 DyEnasTy wrote:
On March 23 2011 11:04 Falcon-sw wrote:
On March 23 2011 10:57 GiantEnemyCrab wrote:
tychus made it soo obvious he was gonna shoot kerrigan makes me wonder he wanted to be shot by raynor instead of dying in the suit. cuz if he did kill kerigan he was still gonna die either way. so basicallly he was a good guy all along and helped raynor get where he wanted to through megneks forces and kill himself since his work was done



I agree. Tychus clearly gave Raynor a chance to stop him. If Tychus had really wanted to kill Kerrigan, she'd be dead.


And dont forget guys that they "resurrected" Tassadar as well.

Aiur was merely a set back


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