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Falcon-sw
Profile Joined September 2010
United States324 Posts
March 22 2011 05:50 GMT
#21
Yeah, something about shutting his organs down.... not an explosive-type device.
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KMARTRULES
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia474 Posts
March 22 2011 06:05 GMT
#22
I noticed this but i don't think that the bullet has any significance in who it kills, he simply does it to look bad ass when he does kill some one.
oblong
Profile Joined January 2011
United States86 Posts
March 22 2011 06:13 GMT
#23
damn you i havent played the very last level yet
Linoge
Profile Joined January 2011
Hungary115 Posts
March 22 2011 06:33 GMT
#24
Mengs ,ofc
EU; Linoge.240 ;
bahl sofs tiil
Profile Joined December 2010
United States233 Posts
March 22 2011 07:35 GMT
#25
On March 22 2011 14:18 Headlines wrote:
If Judas hadn't betrayed Jesus, God's plan for mankind's salvation may have been ruined.


That isn't really true. There are plenty of other ways that Jesus could have been killed.
And isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean, all you get is one trick: rational thinking; but, when you're good and crazy, ooohoohoohoohoooo, the sky is the limit!
Dox
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1199 Posts
March 22 2011 08:17 GMT
#26
On March 22 2011 13:49 Orion407 wrote:
What I don't get is that Mengsk had a bomb in Tychus' suit...why would he not detonate it after Tychus died?

+ Show Spoiler +
Tychus is definitely not dead.
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Headlines
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States482 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 08:35:17
March 22 2011 08:33 GMT
#27
On March 22 2011 17:17 Dox wrote:
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On March 22 2011 13:49 Orion407 wrote:
What I don't get is that Mengsk had a bomb in Tychus' suit...why would he not detonate it after Tychus died?

+ Show Spoiler +
Tychus is definitely not dead.


Mengsk didn't put a bomb in Tychus' suit. It was some sort of neurotoxin.

(After Engine of Destruction mission)
Horner: "Seriously Sir -- his suit contains a sophisticated transponder... if it receives the correct code, it'll shut down all his major organs. That suit is a death trap."

And where are you getting this idea that Tychus didn't die at the end of the campaign? If the bullet hadn't killed Tychus, do you believe he would have been passive about it? Not likely. The scenario would then be: "Damn shame, Jimmy." *Proceeds to expend 5,000 rounds of ammo on both Jim and Kerrigan with his MINIGUN*

On March 22 2011 16:35 bahl sofs tiil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 14:18 Headlines wrote:
If Judas hadn't betrayed Jesus, God's plan for mankind's salvation may have been ruined.


That isn't really true. There are plenty of other ways that Jesus could have been killed.


Lets not do this... Please.


Faraday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States553 Posts
March 22 2011 08:39 GMT
#28
Awesome find!

In addition: I don't think Findlay is alive, because Mengsk would have killed him on spot if he were alive after Raynor shot him. (he failed his mission)
what happened, happened...
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
March 22 2011 08:45 GMT
#29
It just means James Raynor's made a break with his past, spending his last bullet Johnny Depp style... Which fits, cos he's not killing Sarah Kerrigan either.. Hel'l have to bash Mengsk to death with his marine suit instead I suppose.
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naventus
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1338 Posts
March 22 2011 11:50 GMT
#30
WIth all the hints at Tychus's betrayal, how do you know that Raynor didn't already find out, and uncover a solution?

It's quite possible that Tychus is still alive, and Raynor simply shot the control system in the suit.

To me, it makes no sense to build up a character from the opening cinematic and then just kill him off at the end of the episode. My bet is that Tychus is alive, and will be around for the next 2 games.
hmm.
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
March 22 2011 12:19 GMT
#31
Nah, he already spent the bullet for Mengsk on his TV.
I'll call Nada.
ScythedBlade
Profile Joined May 2010
308 Posts
March 22 2011 12:28 GMT
#32
Guys, we know Tychus is dead because when you complete the campaign, the whole blurb on the page says

"With Tychus dead" blah blah, heart of the swarm blurb.
BasilPesto
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia624 Posts
March 22 2011 12:52 GMT
#33
On March 22 2011 21:28 ScythedBlade wrote:
Guys, we know Tychus is dead because when you complete the campaign, the whole blurb on the page says

"With Tychus dead" blah blah, heart of the swarm blurb.


Meh, I don't really think Blizzard is going to let something like that step in the way of open-ended story telling.

I think Tychus's fate is ambiguous.
"I before E...*sunglasses*... except after C." - Jim Carrey
Hellie
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden94 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 13:08:45
March 22 2011 13:06 GMT
#34
On March 22 2011 21:52 BasilPesto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 21:28 ScythedBlade wrote:
Guys, we know Tychus is dead because when you complete the campaign, the whole blurb on the page says

"With Tychus dead" blah blah, heart of the swarm blurb.


Meh, I don't really think Blizzard is going to let something like that step in the way of open-ended story telling.

I think Tychus's fate is ambiguous.


Quoted from the Blizzcon 2010 SC2 lore-panel:

-- 23:33 -- Q. [Man #9]: Thank you and is Tychus actually dead?

Chris: Well I guess I’ll say, if I had my way and I know this would be unpopular, I would say, “Totally.” However, the artists on the dev teams they refuse to believe that Tychus is dead. They envision him with tentacles coming out of his face and things like that, so we’ll see who wins that war when we get back home, but you never know. You never know with us.

Brian: Does anybody ever really die?

Chris: Right. I mean, “Right”.


Seems to me that they envision Tychus dead unless there will be a huge fan pressure saying otherwise. Kinda like Star Wars and Boba Fett, if the character's cool enough, he can be edited in somehow. But with 95% certainty, I'd say he ain't coming back.

Edit: Quote taken from here: http://sclegacy.com/feature/106-blizzcon-2010/899-blizzcon-2010-starcraft-ii-lore-panel
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
March 22 2011 13:46 GMT
#35
On March 22 2011 21:19 lololol wrote:
Nah, he already spent the bullet for Mengsk on his TV.

LOL that is so true ahahahahaha
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
March 22 2011 14:16 GMT
#36
On March 22 2011 12:20 Falcon-sw wrote:
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On March 22 2011 09:20 Moody512 wrote:
Very interesting find... I would assume the bullet was for Mengsk but as Findlay points out "I made a deal with the devil Jimmy. She dies I go free." So Raynor had one of two options kill his friend or let Kerrigan die and have the prophecy come true according to the Dark Voice...

Kinda OT: I do like Valerian and Warfield just not Mengsk. Dominion isn't as bad it's just their leader is corrupt beyond corrupt. Maybe we will see more of them in the expansions?


I dunno... Valarian has only shown he's willing to work with whoever to attain his goal of becoming a great leader. Isn't that basically the same attitude young Mengsk had? Who says when he takes over he won't be as bad?

I do like Warfield, though. No politics there... just straight leadership and war tactics.

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Yup, hes been saving that bullet since SC1 to avenge Kerrigan. I think its fitting that he uses it to save her - defiantly a trade I would make if I was in his position.


Great point... I had forgotten most of his hatred for Mengsk is due to what he did to Kerrigan. Forgoing vengeance to save her is a logical step.


Ehhhh, in the expanded universe Valerian has basically shown himself to be a generally overall good guy, who has a dislike for his father but understands where he's coming from (without knowing the real truth).
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 15:22:12
March 22 2011 14:44 GMT
#37
On March 22 2011 21:28 ScythedBlade wrote:
Guys, we know Tychus is dead because when you complete the campaign, the whole blurb on the page says

"With Tychus dead" blah blah, heart of the swarm blurb.
This can always be retconned into "With Tychus assumend to be dead, ..."
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
March 22 2011 14:59 GMT
#38
Sharp eye you got there mister, nice observation. I think the campaign has loads of little things that make me giggle when I noticed it the second, third play through.
"A brilliant yet deluded man once said, 'Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos.' Gumiho is that agent of chaos." -monk
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
March 22 2011 15:29 GMT
#39
On March 22 2011 23:44 [F_]aths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 21:28 ScythedBlade wrote:
Guys, we know Tychus is dead because when you complete the campaign, the whole blurb on the page says

"With Tychus dead" blah blah, heart of the swarm blurb.
This can always be retconned into "With Tychus assumend to be dead, ..."


or just the zerg come back after you leave and infest his body

then he can be the big bad boss of one of the expansions
Falcon-sw
Profile Joined September 2010
United States324 Posts
March 22 2011 15:47 GMT
#40

WIth all the hints at Tychus's betrayal, how do you know that Raynor didn't already find out, and uncover a solution?


Because if he had uncovered a solution he would have freed Tychus earlier than that moment. No reason to let him continue living with the guillotine hanging over his head.
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