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Falcon-sw
Profile Joined September 2010
United States324 Posts
March 25 2011 18:52 GMT
#101
On March 25 2011 14:40 Dimagus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 02:49 Bhaalgorn wrote:
Well,if we're already talking about interesting bits in the SC2 story how about this:

Zeratul and the dark templar were able to permanently kill a cerebrate since they wielded the same cosmic energy as the Overmind . Yet Kerrigan easily regenerates her wing after Zeratul chops it off.

Does that mean she uses the same kind of energy as zealots(for example) or some other kind of psy powers?



I think it just means she isn't dead and zerg regenerate their injuries, especially on creep. Perhaps he would have better luck chopping her head off.


That's a good point. If I remember BW well enough, you could damage cerebrates with dark templar, but they'd regenerate if you didn't finish them off.
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Obsolescence
Profile Joined August 2010
United States270 Posts
March 25 2011 19:15 GMT
#102
On March 26 2011 03:52 Falcon-sw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 14:40 Dimagus wrote:
On March 25 2011 02:49 Bhaalgorn wrote:
Well,if we're already talking about interesting bits in the SC2 story how about this:

Zeratul and the dark templar were able to permanently kill a cerebrate since they wielded the same cosmic energy as the Overmind . Yet Kerrigan easily regenerates her wing after Zeratul chops it off.

Does that mean she uses the same kind of energy as zealots(for example) or some other kind of psy powers?



I think it just means she isn't dead and zerg regenerate their injuries, especially on creep. Perhaps he would have better luck chopping her head off.


That's a good point. If I remember BW well enough, you could damage cerebrates with dark templar, but they'd regenerate if you didn't finish them off.


The cerebrates are very different from Kerrigan. Cerebrates can be killed by anyone, but in SC1/BW the cerebrates "essence" would call out to the overmind and the overmind would regenerate them at a different location. Dark templar use a type of energy which can destroy the cerebrates essence, so they can kill a cerebrate permanently, but only after something kills the physical body.

In the case of Kerrigan, we don't know whether or not she has an "essence." We also don't know if another overmind exists or would ever return. Therefore, even if she had an essence and the overmind was capable of regenerating and replicating her current form and powers, there is no overmind currently that she could call.
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Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
March 25 2011 20:36 GMT
#103
chix b4 dix

Or, Blizzard's new philosophy when it comes to story writing.
Logic is Overrated
Oathmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada81 Posts
March 25 2011 22:21 GMT
#104
Just since I want to create more gossip about the matter, if it's true that the 1 bullet was meant for Mengsk, whats the thoughts about at the beginning of the campaign on Mar Sara, where he fires his 2nd last round on the TV bulletin of Mengsk after marking Raynor as a threat to the Dominion? Apparently he had at least 2 rounds in that revolver.
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
March 25 2011 23:17 GMT
#105
Does he actually fire a bullet or just an empty chamber at the Mengsk broadcast? We only see a hole in the glass but not one going through the whole monitor. This is a futuristic revolver that would have to penetrate armor, so it's possible that the gun itself supplies some or maybe all of the propellant.

Also when he checks the gun before boarding Mengsk's ship (although it is Valarian on it) he rotates the cylinder so it will be the next shot fired, implying he keeps it saved and can easily put rounds in the other chambers.
Ironsights
Profile Joined January 2011
United States196 Posts
March 25 2011 23:23 GMT
#106
I don't beleive there was "one bullet for mengsk". Raynor carried the sidearm frequently, in my midn as a momento fro mhis martial days. Made him feel like a boss...and was a "last tie" to his good side, so to speak. He shot the TV in the bar with it, presumably more than once since there was a warning sign telling him not to do it again.
However, in the cut scene before he goes after Valerian, he does in deed only have one bullet in the revolver...
Perhaps in the process of boarding and taking over a battlecruiser raynor ran his riffle dry and rather than bother reloading whipped out the side arm to finish a few off. By the time he got to the bridge, he had one round left.
That fits him to me, gets all the way to the point where he thinks he can kill Mengsk, has just ONE shot to do it and will be left unarmed, likely to die, and goes in head long anyway. The Tragic Anti-Hero if ever there was one.

Any of you remeber John McClain's two bullets at the end of Die Hard??

Same thing.
Pain, like any other emotion, can be turned off. // If there can be no victory, then I shall fight forever.
Flanagan
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States166 Posts
March 26 2011 02:05 GMT
#107
Didn't he also shoot the TV at the bar? So that would account for the 1st bullet, and the 2nd bullet into Tychus.... lololol.

I'm pretty sure he reloads it.
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
March 26 2011 03:01 GMT
#108
On March 22 2011 09:09 .Aar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 08:24 iaguz wrote:
Yeah but he gets his gf back. Net gain imo.


Old criminal partners Bros before infested psionic former assassins hoes, man.


.Aar's got a point there, I think it was a weird turn of events in the campaign, will be interesting how the story line comes up in Heart Of The Swarm...:D
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
andy186
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1058 Posts
March 26 2011 13:54 GMT
#109
On March 26 2011 08:23 Ironsights wrote:
I don't beleive there was "one bullet for mengsk". Raynor carried the sidearm frequently, in my midn as a momento fro mhis martial days. Made him feel like a boss...and was a "last tie" to his good side, so to speak. He shot the TV in the bar with it, presumably more than once since there was a warning sign telling him not to do it again.
However, in the cut scene before he goes after Valerian, he does in deed only have one bullet in the revolver...
Perhaps in the process of boarding and taking over a battlecruiser raynor ran his riffle dry and rather than bother reloading whipped out the side arm to finish a few off. By the time he got to the bridge, he had one round left.
That fits him to me, gets all the way to the point where he thinks he can kill Mengsk, has just ONE shot to do it and will be left unarmed, likely to die, and goes in head long anyway. The Tragic Anti-Hero if ever there was one.

Any of you remeber John McClain's two bullets at the end of Die Hard??

Same thing.


He checks the gun before he even boards the ship. Then the fighting starts.

He doesnt fire the revoler while on the ship as far as we know.
cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
March 26 2011 13:54 GMT
#110
Outstanding observation.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wisedeath
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 19:13:14
March 26 2011 19:12 GMT
#111
As other have said its not very unlikely that Blizzard may bring Tychus back in a way. If you remember from WC3 Muradin Bronzebeard was supposedly dead ("Killed" by Arthas when obtaining Frostmourne). But he came back in WoTLK as King of the frostborn, having amnesia until Brann and Magni find him agian.
CodECleaR
Profile Joined November 2010
United States395 Posts
March 26 2011 22:42 GMT
#112
Interesting find....hrmm....
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Dingo22
Profile Joined March 2011
United States34 Posts
March 26 2011 23:54 GMT
#113
When the camera panned away from Jim... He quickly chambered another round Mensk's bullet is still being saved...
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 00:12:46
March 27 2011 00:10 GMT
#114
Perhaps I'm alone in this sentiment, but this kind of bugs me because it reeks of shoddy, obvious, overly-melodramatic writing. This isn't anime. Fill up your damn gun with all the bullets it can hold. It's war, not poetry class.
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IamTheWhiteGuy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States93 Posts
March 27 2011 08:03 GMT
#115
That is kind of a cool thing. I wonder if they actually thought of it like that instead of just having totally screwed it up . Somehow I imagine that they borked it, based on all of the stupid things that went on during the SC2 campaign.

Hella fun, and well designed, but come on now.
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viii
Profile Joined March 2011
United States266 Posts
March 27 2011 09:00 GMT
#116
i thought raynor knew about tychus. so w/e
For those who came from nothing, and became something - DGK
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
March 27 2011 16:05 GMT
#117
OMG, nice find.
Archontas
Profile Joined September 2010
United States319 Posts
March 28 2011 01:07 GMT
#118
On March 24 2011 08:36 nitdkim wrote:
Very similar to Pirates of the Caribbean...
Jack Sparrow and Jim Raynor has many similarities. I guess there is a Protagonist 101 class that all the writers attended in College.


lol, I remember having a similar thought when I watched the cinematic the first time.

I was hoping someone had read the books and had an insight into why he had a specific bullet saved, but it doesn't seem like that is the case. I'm all for a good symbolic moment of justice, but if there's no story at all to it, then I'm with Jibba on this one.
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SeeiSee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States12 Posts
March 28 2011 04:32 GMT
#119
But didn't he shoot a bullet out of his pistol at the tv in the beginning cinematic? Or does that have nothing to do with the bullet. And i would think that he was saving it for Kerrigan because he needed to stop her throughout the campaign. Atl east thats what it made me believe even though he probably wants to kill him instead.
Do you see what I see?
KaRath_
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia245 Posts
March 28 2011 05:08 GMT
#120
Maybe, just maybe, he spent most of his budget buying weapons and armour for his men (and alcohol) and only had enough credits to purchase one bullet.

Alternatively, he saved one bullet ever in case he was captured by the Zerg? Too many Zombie movies for me T_T
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