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What happened to Dark Archons? - Page 3
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Maynarde
Australia1286 Posts
And Zerg needs it! So there. | ||
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Flaxler
Germany57 Posts
On March 13 2011 12:01 emc wrote: k, well next time you see a pro match where someone merges DTs into archons then let me know, seriously I'd LOVE to see it. Liquid'TLO vs Rigid(?) on scrap at some tlopen, dt shrine gets detected and he made a push with archons. | ||
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TerrorBird
Canada58 Posts
On March 12 2011 19:22 emc wrote: k, well next time you see a pro match where someone merges DTs into archons then let me know, seriously I'd LOVE to see it. I have seen iNcontroL do that on his stream numerous times. | ||
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GoonSack
New Zealand36 Posts
On March 13 2011 12:01 emc wrote: k, well next time you see a pro match where someone merges DTs into archons then let me know, seriously I'd LOVE to see it. MC also went dt > morph archon against MVP in the GSTL | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On March 12 2011 09:21 Jibba wrote: It would make complete sense and actually give the Dark Shrine some purpose, but alas Dark Archons have gone to the same place where Metzen rapes all of Blizzard's storylines. His basement. They're trapped in his basement while he rapes them. I hope they'll eventually bring that man to justice.  | ||
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joyeaux
United States169 Posts
On March 12 2011 16:30 TwoToneTerran wrote: The greatest tragedy in SC2 is that there is no way to recreate the Royal Stove. Yes there is a way! Infester can neural parasite a probe, make a nexus with it, and eventually get a mothership. Then you neural parasite an SCV and make a command center with it (this requires back-to-back neural parasites until CC is done), eventually you can tech to tanks. Unlikely that it will ever happen in a real game and impossible in 1v1, but it's *possible* in 2v2. Ironic that the only race that can potentially mass recall sieged tanks is the one that has neither mass recall nor siege tanks. | ||
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
On March 12 2011 16:30 TwoToneTerran wrote: The greatest tragedy in SC2 is that there is no way to recreate the Royal Stove. wait, i know what the stove is (dt, scout, arbiter), but what is the royal stove? o.O | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
On March 14 2011 23:05 da_head wrote: wait, i know what the stove is (dt, scout, arbiter), but what is the royal stove? o.O dt -> scout -> arbiter -> DARK ARCHON -> MC A SCV -> MAKE TANKS -> RECALL TANKS YEAHHHHH in a nutshell | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On March 12 2011 09:21 Jibba wrote: It would make complete sense and actually give the Dark Shrine some purpose, but alas Dark Archons have gone to the same place where Metzen rapes all of Blizzard's storylines. His basement. They're trapped in his basement while he rapes them. Haha reminds me of that south park episode where George Lucas rapes Indiana Jones and Star Wars Lolz  Just changing the colour seems pretty pointless, and the dark archons wern't all that amazing in the first place in comparison to the archons. I don't think it's good for any competetive game to have different colours for the same unit. It'd just add confusion. | ||
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
On March 14 2011 23:17 Conversion wrote: dt -> scout -> arbiter -> DARK ARCHON -> MC A SCV -> MAKE TANKS -> RECALL TANKS YEAHHHHH in a nutshell wut. seriously lol? anyone have a pro-game of this actually happening? | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19057 Posts
On March 12 2011 11:51 Tictock wrote: I just want you to think about your logic here for a moment.... + Show Spoiler + Only way yer DT harass fails is if there already IS detection, and a failed DT drop already tells the opponent you have DTs What I think he means is that just as you warp in 2 DTs to do some harassment, 40 speedlings stampede your natural, IE, having a powerful unit with splash would be really nice right now, rather than trying to force a base trade. | ||
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Pyth121
United States34 Posts
On March 15 2011 00:35 Euronyme wrote: Haha reminds me of that south park episode where George Lucas rapes Indiana Jones and Star Wars Lolz Just changing the colour seems pretty pointless, and the dark archons wern't all that amazing in the first place in comparison to the archons. I don't think it's good for any competetive game to have different colours for the same unit. It'd just add confusion. What... you mean like DT's are now? You may have noticed they are not all the same...  | ||
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Royalal
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On March 12 2011 05:37 FreezerJumps wrote: They removed the dark archon from the game, as is the case with many other units. Different coloured archons would just add confusion. How confusing can it be when you look at the unit and it has all of the same functions and characteristics as the normal archon... Except color. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On March 15 2011 07:32 Royalal wrote: Were Dark Archons all that useful in brood war? I only played brood war casually when I was younger so my games were rarely serious. I just used them to steal workers and build up 3 race armies. You saw them on occasion to deal with the muta stack harass. Maelstrom them and then the corsairs and dragoons can work on them. Was pretty efficient as well, since that harass was meant to buy time for the follow up consisting of 5 hatch hydra most often. | ||
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mDuo13
United States307 Posts
Or am I tripping? | ||
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lololol
5198 Posts
On March 15 2011 09:33 mDuo13 wrote: Wasn't the storyline excuse something to do with the dark archons being "cleansed" and the regular protoss being tainted or whatever so that the different sorts of templars aren't spiritually different anymore? So even though they look and act like "regular" archons, SC2 archons are really all sort of a mix between light and dark archons anyway? Or am I tripping? They had feedback and were called Twilight Archons in alpha, so they were a mix of both Archons, but not anymore. I have no idea about the lore, in Blizzard games it's always gameplay over lore, that's why for example only Night Elfs had Druids in WC3, but not in WoW. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
The Dark Archon however I'm not sure how it would be explained away. Supposedly Dark Archon's are a last resort thing and are looked down upon because dark templars are individualistic and have to merge. Not only that, but the ability to mind control others is probably something looked down on but I only remember Zearatul having a problem with the later. The thing is the lore for Colossus was they were terrible weapons of war made only for killing. The reaver while also devastating had a non combat purpose (can't remember atm) so the Colossus were sealed away only brought back out now out of desperation. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/game/unit/colossus (seems like they edited down the entry from pre release version) | ||
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lundell100
Sweden232 Posts
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Evoshadow
United States88 Posts
Most pros think that the that those 2 DTs will be useful again in the future and that stops them from merging their DTs, There probably are times when your would merge them, for example your harassment fails completely your oppoenent just got a raven and is about to push out with a large bio army, You know you will lose without the archon. It is a bit of a long shot though | ||
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