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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On March 12 2011 11:51 Tictock wrote: I just want you to think about your logic here for a moment.... + Show Spoiler + Only way yer DT harass fails is if there already IS detection, and a failed DT drop already tells the opponent you have DTs I think he means in some odd situation where you just had your dark shrine finish? | ||
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
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Ghostpvp
United States462 Posts
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On March 12 2011 10:27 slimshady wrote: If I understood you right, you want the Dark Archon back. Well, this is SC2 not BW. Also, the HT has feedback (one of DA's abilities). but no maelstorm, DA's best spell ! | ||
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yrag89
Malaysia315 Posts
They gave it to zerg. | ||
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Keitzer
United States2509 Posts
On March 12 2011 06:58 MasterOfChaos wrote: I stole them all. LOL | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
Maybe in the expansions. I'd like to see a two-headed zergling | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
On March 12 2011 06:37 Allred wrote: i think the one small down side is lets say you merged 2 dark templar for some strange reason and they hadn't scouted that you had them yet etc and you had regular templar out on the field it could let them know that you have a dark shrine... it actually costs more to merge archons with dts, and really, there is no real use to making dts archons but there WAS use to making dark archons in BW because they were unique spell casters. So yeah people really shouldn't be using dts for archons, they really cost more than HT and you get the same unit... | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
About the color, giving information about a tech tree choice, if you want your mineral heavy archons dts, gas heavy archons hts. would be easy to know for the opponent that way what your next warp in on units will be. Also if he would see red archons he would knew there will be something in my mineral lines soon, have to put up spines and spores. Also confusion in the mirror. But I would say the main reason is in the story. Was so sad how clerics died out from warcraft 1 to warcraft 2, but due to that the paladin arrived :O | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
Like I said, there is no point to making archons out of dts because 1.) dts are invisible, archons are not 2.) dts have extremely high DPS and are melee, archons are basically melee. Even if you opponent has detectors, the point is that they need detectors and by splitting dts and doing multi-pronged attacks you basically make your opponent waste resources getting more detectors. I'm not against this idea, but I think blizzard will probably bring back DA's eventually so I see no point in this. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On March 12 2011 19:22 emc wrote: dts are more gas expensive than ht, it's more expensive to use dts for archons. Like I said, there is no point to making archons out of dts because 1.) dts are invisible, archons are not 2.) dts have extremely high DPS and are melee, archons are basically melee. Even if you opponent has detectors, the point is that they need detectors and by splitting dts and doing multi-pronged attacks you basically make your opponent waste resources getting more detectors. I'm not against this idea, but I think blizzard will probably bring back DA's eventually so I see no point in this. ... no theyre not. | ||
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amd098
Korea (North)1366 Posts
keep ht+ht into archon, you loose 2 spellcasters for a attack unit with 350/10 hp keep dt+dt into dark archon (malestorm, mind control), you loose 2 attack units for a spellcaster with 200/20 hp bring back dire archon, ht+dt, into a hybrid unit, 275/15 hp, with one ability (something like spirit link from war3?) | ||
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PhantomHybrid
United Kingdom47 Posts
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pfods
United States895 Posts
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On March 12 2011 06:58 MasterOfChaos wrote: I stole them all. You wouldn't happen to be from the MoC clan from BW would you? | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
always thought they were, I stand corrected but it's a 25 gas difference I still see no reason to merge dts into archons when they force detection and archons don't. there is a reason pros never use dts for archons and there is a reason why ht with no energy are used. | ||
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
On March 13 2011 07:12 emc wrote: always thought they were, I stand corrected but it's a 25 gas difference I still see no reason to merge dts into archons when they force detection and archons don't. there is a reason pros never use dts for archons and there is a reason why ht with no energy are used. what lol. What do you mean DTs force detection and Archons don't? you think people will make a dark shrine just so that they can the opponent to make detection. Obviously you would merge archons AFTER the DTs had done their job. | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
On March 13 2011 11:36 NexUmbra wrote: what lol. What do you mean DTs force detection and Archons don't? you think people will make a dark shrine just so that they can the opponent to make detection. Obviously you would merge archons AFTER the DTs had done their job. k, well next time you see a pro match where someone merges DTs into archons then let me know, seriously I'd LOVE to see it. | ||
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